Post Number: 57
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 7:02 pm: || |
I know, it sounds like a thinly veiled attempt at where I can get my grove on, but I'm hoping someone could give me some information.
A family friend's daughter ran into some drug problems awhile ago and word has it that she's started prostituting herself. The family is trying to find her but DPD hasn't been much help and repeated attempts going up and down Woodward hasn't produced her, either.
So, I'm wondering if there's any other areas where prostitutes are usually found other than the Woodward corridor.
Thanks for any help!
Post Number: 2600
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 7:05 pm: || |
Down along Fort Street where all the trucks gather around the bridge, I've seen a good few ladies down there, also Michigan and Livernois. I hope you find her.
Post Number: 1020
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 7:05 pm: || |
I am really really sorry to hear that. That's tragic. I wish you the best of luck in rescuing her. I don't know alot about it, but I might try the 8mile strip, and I see alot of prostitutes around Cass and Temple.
Post Number: 3672
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 7:10 pm: || |
Michigan & Livernois is another hot spot.
There was a news story about it just recently.
Post Number: 169
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 7:16 pm: || |
Eight mile has its share too.
Post Number: 119
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 7:17 pm: || |
Second and Alexandrine. What does she look like, ill keep an eye out?
Post Number: 98
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 8:10 pm: || |
Sad. Hope it turns out OK. Another spot is I75 truck stop near Monroe/Toledo, where runaways are often found.
Post Number: 2419
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 8:22 pm: || |
that sucks, maybe give 20 bucks to some people hanging out and ask a couple of questions.
Post Number: 2791
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 8:26 pm: || |
Jeez, that DOES suck. Good luck, to you (and her,) in your search.
Post Number: 1234
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 8:27 pm: || |
Isnt' there an organization called Alternatives For Girls that operates in Detroit? I would try contacting them for help.
I would think that driving around and looking for someone would be a daunting task. It's not like they're going to keep a 9-5 schedule.
Post Number: 3679
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 8:33 pm: || |
It's not like they're going to keep a 9-5 schedule.
(I'm sorry for this, but he walked right into it & I can't help it)
Instead, they'll keep a 9PM - 5AM schedule.
Post Number: 3285
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 9:31 pm: || |
woodward-gratiot-eightmile-sev en-mile-statefair-fenkell/gran driver/westwarren/eastmack..
around that area.
Post Number: 455
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:30 pm: || |
Post Number: 2472
|Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 11:12 pm: || |
Paging Terryh, Paging Terryh..................
Hold on, we'll have an answer here soon.
Post Number: 39
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 12:59 am: || |
Fenkell and Grand River? No freekin way !
Post Number: 729
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 1:45 am: || |
We had a pool back in 1986 and a hooker was on the run from her pimp and fell in our pool.
That was the scariest day of my life.
Post Number: 1023
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 1:53 am: || |
HEY hey watch it 56Packman.lol...the 'ladies' who work between 6 and 8 on Woodward tend to be transexual and transvestite prostitutes. The ladies of the late evening on Michigan Ave. near Lonyo look like they could be strippers or escorts most that I have seen (going for a drive after the club not trying to pick them up) dont look like they are in the chronic stage of drug addiction. Back in the early nineties when Id leave my exgirlfriends house in Detroit I rememnber seeing lots of girls on 8, especially near John R. Dont really see too many now. There are also many working girls Just North of the Boulevard on Woodward that appear to have serious drug problems.
Sorry about the girl, hope she can clean up her act and get off the street before it is too late.
Post Number: 199
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 1:57 am: || |
Palmer Park (I think mostly male prostitutes though) Also Cass Corridor (Only if she's really got it bad though!!;(
To be honest...there are tons of places she could be...Strip clubs and bars are prime hooker hang outs these days!!
ps please dont ask me how I know these things!!lol!
Post Number: 1161
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 1:41 pm: || |
When did Prostitution come to the Grand River and Fenkell area? What specific part of that area? Very sad if true.
Post Number: 43
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 1:55 pm: || |
Thats the same question I posed. Maybe fenkell and burt road, but the river, thats something I have to see and believe
Post Number: 264
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 2:36 pm: || |
in all likelihood shes on john r between 8 mile and mcnichols. strip clubs like eden and centerfold keep a steady supply of hookers ready and willing.
Post Number: 332
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 4:07 pm: || |
No... not at Fenkell and Grand River. I think Mauser was making a poor joke about everywhere in Detroit being a likely area for prostitutes at the expense of Screamingfit's friend's awful situation.
Post Number: 658
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 5:00 pm: || |
Screaming, I hope you find her.
Post Number: 659
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 5:01 pm: || |
Please let us know if you're successful.
Post Number: 660
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 5:03 pm: || |
I can honestly say, I've never noticed a hooker in Detroit. Well, I've never noticed hookers anywhere. I've been told they're on Woodward, but I've never noticed any. Perhaps I'm out at the wrong times or do not know what I'm looking for.
Post Number: 13
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 5:46 pm: || |
I remember hearing the cops had busted another heroin den between 8 and 9 mile, in the neighborhoods between 75 and John R. We knew some kids a few years ago on smack that hung out over there, if that's what she's into.
Post Number: 2821
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 6:30 pm: || |
Fenkell west of Evergreen, yes. Fenkell and Grand River, no.
Post Number: 410
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 6:50 pm: || |
An acquaintance of mine, a bouncer of sorts, told me of his little sister who'd run into the same situation, and that she had left for good old Brightmoor. Well, I said to him that she's probably being whored out by a dope dealer. I elaborated a bit in order for my theorem to make sense. Many times these cats have five or six girls working it for them. The dealer provides them with all the free high's they want, and the tab is paid off by sex. And it's a whole sub-culture, it's all good to "them", so don't anybody think it's so tragic in the moment. No, it's party all the time.
It wasn't easy to say these things to him, and it wasn't easy for him to believe me, his whole family was very worried. I said that if he went looking, ummm, he'd better be prepared. So yes, even before I saw Royce's post above, I was going to essentially say the same thing. But of course, it's a big city out there. Good luck.
Post Number: 2086
|Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:03 pm: || |
St Aubin and Dubois South of Mack. Chene South of 94 also. Might want to check in the churches that put on free lunches and such. With a pic of course.
Post Number: 58
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 6:24 am: || |
Thank you all for your help and well wishes!
Spent most of Saturday night and early Sunday morning scouting some locations. Sadly, we still didn't find her. Didn't see that many working girls, either. Must be the cold weather.
Post Number: 14385
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 8:30 am: || |
Is she still using her cellphone? If so, law enforcement can track it with some amazing precision. It's been more than 24-hours, they will take a missing person's report now...if the Detroit Police won't do it, see if through any of the runaway hotlines or such if there are agencies that WILL seek and act on a tracking warrant. Might be a private investigator's domain, not sure.
Have you heard from her at all?
In the past, has she evidenced any comfort with any particular area of town? Where did she hang out?
If it was with goody-two shoes friends, she will avoid that area like the plaque, so she doesn't encounter individuals from her past who will cause her to contrast her current behavior with then...whether they bring it up or not it will be unavoidable.
If it was with some shady friends, this might be the first area to ponder, although those same friends might defend her 'freedoms' from the family...because they obviously want to exercise the same themselves.
You just might want to check out the clinics, too, that provide counseling and methadone...simply make a flyer with a few images of her on it, along with all contact information.
Post Number: 87
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 10:51 am: || |
There is/was an apartment in that complex at Beaconsfield and Whittier where they appeared to be "preparing" a number of very young girls for commercial activity - expensive hair and nail work, etc and multiple men circling on bicycles to try to keep concerned people away. I *did* manage to pull mine out before it went totally bad. It was a nightmare and my heart goes out to you. It's like looking for a recalcitrant needle in a concrete-covered haystack. Some at DPD were very concerned, some very callous. I took recent color photos to all of the precincts and "visited" regularly - some actually were responsive and one was able to say he'd seen her and where, which helped. I suspect because of the kind of dogged determination we approached it with, it became a pain to those she was with and eventually, I got a call asking me to sign over guardianship. That allowed a friend with a PI license to track down an address and it was on. DPD never did show up to go with us, though they said it was too dangerous to go alone - I was afraid not to go after several hours, for fear they'd get tipped off and move her. I say all this to encourage family and friends to pursue every avenue, be creative in finding avenues and be politely assertive and persistent.
Post Number: 4
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 10:54 am: || |
my friend lives between the Southfield Fwy and Evergreen, she says theres a lot of prostitution in that area.
Post Number: 44
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:24 am: || |
I can understand that area, its Brightmoor, some areas are a bit rough.
Post Number: 381
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:48 am: || |
North side of Carpenter between J Campau and Conant
Post Number: 116
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 12:07 pm: || |
Michigan & Wyoming area, the Truck City truck stop, especially the back entrance (I know poor choice of words) along Western just south of Michigan Ave.
Try Southern Ave(John Kronk in Detroit) in Dearborn between Miller Rd and Lonyo, especially under the Miller Rd bridge...but be extremely careful there!
Another couple of areas you may want to try are Fort St & Outer Drive on the Detroit-Lincoln Park border, Fort St & Oakwood a few blocks either side of the draw bridge.
Post Number: 8946
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 12:42 pm: || |
I really feel for you here. Odds are of running into someone just out on the streets are going to be tough. I can only wish you the best of luck in pulling this person off of the streets and back to a semblance of normalcy here.
Post Number: 611
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 4:47 pm: || |
Charlevoix Avenue between Alter and Connor. Night time preferably.
That stretch also works a little bit off of each main intersecting street that crosses Charlevoix. Vernor does the same thing through there.
The women aimlessly wander the streets and holler at anybody who makes eye contact. Hope this helps.
Post Number: 70
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 9:24 pm: || |
What is the main prostitution area?
Your mom's house.
You left yourself wide open for that one, dude!!!
Post Number: 3694
|Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 9:28 pm: || |
I guess some people don't takes anything serious these days...
Post Number: 256
|Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 3:56 am: || |
Duke_sims.....Your comment about a serious situation is totally inappropriate and sickening.
Post Number: 3289
|Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 7:03 am: || |
"No... not at Fenkell and Grand River."
Um...if you say so.
Post Number: 50
|Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 7:48 am: || |
Harper between Vandyke and Burns, they even have a house set up for it.
Post Number: 665
|Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 8:59 am: || |
Are there any updates? Have they found the young lady?
Post Number: 59
|Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 6:36 pm: || |
screamingfit sry about your situation. this must be really tough. anyway, i see a bunch of hookers at cass and peterboro area all the time. i get off work at 11:00 pm and they are usually out at that time hanging around those streets and also hanging out in front of the temple bar. also, when i worked days i would leave my house at 5:15 in the morning and there would be a bunch of them out. doesn't matter the weather either. hope this helps a little and good luck.
Post Number: 75
|Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 9:12 pm: || |
"Duke_sims.....Your comment about a serious situation is totally inappropriate and sickening."
I admit I only read the thread title in responding, not the actual post. I apologize profusely. I personally know several families that have been torn apart by the horrors of drug abuse, prostitution, and street life in general, and I did not mean to make light of it.
I merely thought this was a discussion about where hookers hang out. Perhaps I should actually read the thread before making a goofy comment like I did.
But I do want to say I meant no ill will toward anyone, and I certainly didn't want to make a snide comment about a very serious situation. It was simply a stupid oversight on my part, and I hope anyone who was offended will forgive me.
Post Number: 2097
|Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 9:34 pm: || |
Good response Duke, I think many of have made a post thinking it would be funny or whatever, not realizing what we got ourselves into in the first place. I know I have.
Post Number: 76
|Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 9:51 pm: || |
Thanks, Django. I may be a jerk, but I'm not THAT big of a jerk.
Now that I've actually read the thread, I would like to make a serious response.
Driving up and down Woodward is one way of looking for your friend's daughter, but there are so many other variables, it's difficult to know where to start.
Sometimes girls will turn dates out of a particular hotel, or they'll work out of a bar. Do you know who her druggie friends were/are? If so, that might give you a clue as to where she's working.
Sometimes they aren't "prostitutes" in the classic sense of actually standing on the street corner turning dates. Often, these poor souls will simply show up at the dope house, offering to abase themselves in order to get a rock. I've heard horror stories about what these slimeball dope dealers make these girls do to get their fix. If the girl is attractive, they'll allow them to stay in the dope house for weeks or months, doing all sorts of unGodly things. It's a terrible life.
I have an insight into this lifestyle, because I grew up with many people whose mothers were prostitutes. My ex-girlfriend's mother was a hooker, and she used to tell me stories of being a little girl playing with her dolls in the piss-stained hallway of some short-stay hotel while her mom turned dates inside the room.
And the cute girl my little brother had a huge crush on when they were in elementary school was turned out by age 17. Her mom was also a hooker, and when she was a little girl, she used to pee into her mom's urinalysis cup in the probation office because her mom was hooked on T's and Blues. By the time the daughter was 21, she had no teeth left, and her hands were swollen from booting that same mixed jive her mom was hooked on. A pretty girl can turn ugly quick after a few years on the street.
So, as I said, I absolutely understand that this is no laughing matter. Again, I thought this thread was merely about where the hookers hang out, in which case, a goofy joke like the one I made wouldn't have been so bad.
Good luck finding your friend's daughter. As I said, try to find out who she was hanging with before she disappeared. That should give you a good start.
Post Number: 836
|Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 9:54 pm: || |
Screamingfit, I hope you guys find her. This hits home. One of my aunts fell into the life 20 years ago -- drugging, prostitution -- then 8 years ago she was murdered. I will be praying for your family friend, and all of you. *hugs*
Post Number: 211
|Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 10:09 pm: || |
with the usual crackheads,and now the bad economic times,they are probably everywhere. I've seen them on schoolcraft alot lately.
Post Number: 422
|Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 10:21 pm: || |
Drive around Warren Ave., the area between Outer Drive, and East towards Greenfield. If she is white, and knows people from that area, then I'm sure that if you hung out throughout that hood for a couple of nights, you'd find a clew. White girls don't usually hang out in Brightmoor because the girls fight alot, and are extremely racist. Warrendale - this general area - is more white friendly.
Now, I am trusting that this is no hoax, and if it is, then it doesn't make much matter to me.
What ya do, honestly, is wait. It's a hard wait, I know, but once anyone in your family, or circle of friends, gets a contact from her - and they will eventually, because she'll try to hustle some charity after so long of abuse - then follow that lead, come back here, and you will be directed to the correct, general, location, I'm sure. Welcome to The MiniStation.
White, or mixed-ehthnicity girl, aged between 13 to 23, wonderful personality, weight does not matter, attitude combined with leanings towards certain names... it really isn't all too difficult to figure out, provided the correct information. Knowledge is power.
Post Number: 310
|Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 2:31 am: || |
Here's hope. Recently have been re-acquainted with a life long friend who in the mid 90s became a lost soul in the Corridor. Now, clean for 4 years, got her bachelors 20 months ago and just got her masters in social work from a certain Big Ten school 45 minutes from said Corridor.
Post Number: 59
|Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 9:40 am: || |
Thanks again for all the outpouring of help and insight. I, and her family really appreciate it!
A quick update - her grandmother received a call from her the other night trying to get (scam) some money. The caller ID showed up for a hotel around Cincinatti so it sounds like she's now out of the area for now.
Post Number: 96
|Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 9:51 am: || |
Oh, boy. So sorry to hear that. It was way scarier when I knew mine was out on the east coast than when she was wondering the east side. Not that I believe it was necessarily a worse place - just so far and unknown if I had to get out there quickly in response to every parent's nightmare. I am hoping this has a positive ending for all of you. I can't say mine is yet as positive as Ham's, but it's a whole lot better than it was in those darkest of days. I am glad the girl called, even if it was a scam - at least it means she is alive and coherent.
Post Number: 2
|Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:15 am: || |
John R between 8 & 7 mile. I see the same group of whores working at 7AM here almost every day on my way to work. These skanks look like worn down junkies. Probably cost less than $5.
Post Number: 71
|Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 11:28 am: || |
Mack and Bewick
Post Number: 427
|Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 7:23 pm: || |
Hmmmmm, the call to the grandmother. How does a caller ID show up from a Hotel from around Cincy? Doesn't sound very street-wise, 'specially if she is actually smart. It'd make more sense to show up on granma's front porch and apply the ol' "butter 'em up". The Spin Of Confusion, spun upon family members, and friends, can be quite amazing sometimes. I would not believe a single word being told.
Post Number: 730
|Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 9:21 pm: || |
While on the smart bus, I have seen working girls on John R between 6 and 7 mile.