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| | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 3:18 pm: |    |
I love when people say things such as this:
"I welcome anyone to my neighborhood, I don't care what color they are. In fact, some people just move across the street and they just happen to be black. It doesn't matter, but they're black. Some other people moved into the neighborhood too, but the people directly across the street are black. Did I mention they are black? And I don't care what color they are. I just need you to know that no matter what color they are, they're black."
Some people are so see through that they might as well just come out and say what they have to say, it's not like they are hiding their feelings very well. |
321brian
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 3:29 pm: | |
"What is the obsession with Whole Foods I have to ask. It really is just a chain supermarket which happens to have higher prices and fancy food that really you get at other stores for less. "
Exactly.
Work on getting a Kroger and keeping it open for a few years then work your way up. |
Iheartthed
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 6:44 pm: | |
quote:Gotcha. Nice partial rebuttal. There are many more WFM in higher income markets. Many more.
So? Birmingham, New Orleans and Providence having lower median incomes than Detroit, but they still have a Whole Foods.
quote:There are WFM's in a lot of cities that have decent sized AA populations but the WFM's are no where near the AA dense areas.
You can't substantiate that claim.
Gentrified cities like Washington and Baltimore are 1) not that large and 2) the yuppie areas are the black neighborhoods. So I doubt that all Whole FOods everywhere are away from dense predominantly black areas.
quote:Providence = the kind of buyer they are looking for. Providence and Rhode Island is a progressive "green" stylized city-state and again, situationally - has a good deal of WFM type customers.
Providence also has a median household income that is less than that of Detroit.
quote:That St Louis store is in a ritzy upscale neighborhood a long way from the St. Louis ghetto. I know - I've been there - as I have Kansas City. So St Louis statistics are of no use in this analysis.
LOL. Yeah, because all predominantly black areas are ghettos. Yep, I think you have said enough. |
Gthomas
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 12:31 am: | |
Racist....are you saying blacks are poor. I can't believe this... |
Roadmaster49
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 8:20 am: | |
Nope. blacks aren't any poorer then other ethnic groups. There are some poor all white counties in south- southwest Iowa that make Detroit look like an upscale neighborhood. That's why I said it's not a black issue BUT may be black culture issue. I just don't know. If there is that buying culture to support a WFM, then Detroit will get one. In this day and age though, companies like WFM can do extensive market research. AA buyers in some communities will buy in a different pattern then AA buyers in other communities. To counter this - if Detroit (citizenry and goivernment) wanted a WFM it would need to provide it's own eye raising statistics that it would work. |
Det_ard
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:04 am: | |
IheartheD, your stats on overall city median income are not what businesses use when planning new locations. If you have info on the number of households with income >$75,000 within 3 miles of the Whole Foods Market, then that would be instructive. What you're posting is irrelevant.
Review what median means. Half above and half below. In some cities with low median income there are sizable pockets with very high income, highly educated, the kind WFM attracts. Enough high income households to profitably support a WFM. Detroit's not there based on the stats I've seen. Your stats prove nothing.
(Message edited by det_ard on March 16, 2009) |
Swiburn
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:55 am: | |
East Lansing wanted a Whole Foods, Trader Joes and or Zingerman's Deli to open here. But the area doesn't have the demographics or money-according to the management.
Now the median income for East Lansing-Okemos is $90,000, so you see that downtown Detroit isn't really likely. |
Johnlodge
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:58 am: | |
A Whole Foods can't be built in Detroit, because there are too many Urban Farms in the way. There's just no empty space left. |
East_detroit
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:01 am: | |
Detroit has two Whole Foods locations... unless you're Martha Reeves. |
Wanderinglady
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 1:10 pm: | |
I read these threads and don't understand why is there always this emphasis on 1) upscale markets when Detroit doesn't even have "mainstream" supermarkets like Kroger, and 2) putting retail in downtown Detroit. Detroit is more than just the downtown area and immediate surroundings. This is the same mistake that TPTB have been making in the city of Detroit since the 1970's.
The mainstream grocers have stepped up their game in response to the WFMs and Trader Joe's of the world. The stores owned by Safeway and Kroger sell organic produce and upmarket goods nowadays. Sure, WFM and TJ's are fun to go to, but it really isn't possible to get all your groceries at either of those places (IMHO).
I don't understand why there is such a big argument on this board about Whole Paycheck (and I fit in its demographic) when Detroiters still lack the basics. |
Texorama
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 1:47 pm: | |
Because . . . a Kroger doesn't attract the young people that the city needs to retain its vitality. The organic produce, etc., at Kroger isn't even close to Whole Foods. For better or for worse, Whole Foods and TJ's (which I think would be just as good, although not quite with the same emphasis on health) attract people and send the message that the locale is a fun place to be. I just got my Urban Dictionary word of the day in my e-mail, and it was "Whole Grazer"--a person who goes to Whole Foods for the free samples. Does Kroger have slang connected with it?
There was tremendous response when Zaccaro's opened. That place was wall-to-wall people for several weeks--they just didn't do it right. There are people in the city with money, and they're spending it in the suburbs right now. This whole "Detroiters aren't ready for Whole Foods" mindset is mystifying to me. |
Iheartthed
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 2:34 pm: | |
quote:IheartheD, your stats on overall city median income are not what businesses use when planning new locations. If you have info on the number of households with income >$75,000 within 3 miles of the Whole Foods Market, then that would be instructive. What you're posting is irrelevant.
My point in posting that was not to prove that Detroit should or should not get a Whole Foods. The point was to refute this idea that Detroit is somehow an anomaly, and too poor to support a Whole Foods. Clearly there are cities with demographics similar to Detroit where Whole Foods has decided to open stores. That was my point of posting those stats.
Considering that Detroit is also much larger than all of those cities that I listed -- with the exception of Philadelphia -- it makes me a bit skeptical that the Whole Foods cannot find the financial criteria that they look for in any part of the city. The odds are extremely low that they would find it in Birmingham, Alabama and not Detroit. Heck, with the exception of Ann Arbor, the city of Detroit has the largest raw number of residents with college degrees of any municipality in southeast Michigan.
That said, I could think of a few things that I would like to see happen in Detroit besides the opening of a Whole Foods grocery store. |
Rooms222
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 3:30 pm: | |
Some information I found searching for the demographics of where Whole Foods puts stores:
From NY Magazine
“We look at demographics, what percentage of the population will accept our concept,” says Lannon, the Whole Foods executive. “Density of college graduates is our top indicator, and New York is off the charts.” In 2001, Whole Foods debuted on 24th Street in Chelsea, becoming an instant sensation. “It’s changed my life,” says the chef Bobby Flay, who lives near the store. “I can get up in the morning and get whatever I want.”
'Hungry for Whole Foods
Wooing of the Upscale Grocery Highlights Tension Over Changes in Columbia Heights
By Lyndsey Layton
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 22, 2006; D01
Heather Cooper sat at her computer and composed a love note to Whole Foods Market <http://financial.washingtonpos t.com/custom/wpost/html-qcn.as p?dispnav=business&mwpage=qcn& symb=wfmi&nav=el>. Please, open a store in my neighborhood, Columbia Heights, she wrote to the nation's biggest organic grocer.
She wants organic avocados within walking distance, of course. But she also wants to make a statement.
"Whole Foods would symbolize that the neighborhood is not just up-and-coming; it would mean that it had arrived," said Cooper, 28, who moved there two years ago. "It would not only be an addition to the neighborhood, I think it would help our real estate values."
Here's one for the B-school textbooks: the Whole Foods Effect.
Homeowners, real estate brokers and builders see the natural foods powerhouse not just as a grocery but also as an engine for development. In Pittsburgh's East Liberty neighborhood, a Whole Foods is credited with triggering a revival. In Sarasota, Fla., developers say they pre-sold all 95 apartments in a condominium tower because a Whole Foods opened on the first floor. And in Washington, many trace the revival of Logan Circle and the 14th Street corridor to the opening in 2000 of a Whole Foods on P Street NW.
What makes the Columbia Heights quest pronounced -- and controversial -- is that a glistening Giant opened less than a year ago a cucumber's toss from where the Whole Foods would go. Giant's all right in a pinch, Cooper and others say, but it's no Whole Foods.
The hunger of some residents for the cachet of Whole Foods is stirring unease among working-class residents who worry they will be forced out by new affluence and among longtime retailers who are struggling with rising rents and sagging sales.
Business at the El Sausalito restaurant on Park Road, where a grilled steak costs $8 and iron bars cover the windows, has been down for most of this year, said Franklin Rubio, the owner's son. The professionals moving into the community aren't filling the stools at the counter, he said.
"It would be more beneficial for the whole community if some of those lobbying for Whole Foods were to devote their energy to supporting the Columbia Heights farmers market," said Elizabeth McIntire, a longtime neighborhood activist, referring to a farmers market suspended by all the construction activity.
Whole Foods has received about 500 e-mails from people in Columbia Heights. Some bear messages as simple as "We beg you!" Others contain sophisticated references to the company's stock price, corporate strategy and the neighborhood's demographics. Many of the writers said they admired the company's social conscience and employment practices.
Whole Foods gets similar requests every day, said Kate Lowery, spokeswoman for the 184-store chain, which was founded 27 years ago as a natural foods store in Austin and had $4.7 billion in sales last year. "We even get e-mails from people who say 'I'm thinking of moving to a certain city but before I leave, do you have any plans to move there?' " she said.
For three years, Whole Foods has been weighing whether to locate a store in the heart of Columbia Heights, at 14th Street and Park Road NW, where a New York developer, Grid Properties Inc., is building a massive retail center on public land. The center, scheduled to open in 2008, will include Washington's first Target and a Best Buy.
Across the street, the Tivoli Theater has been restored, a Cuban restaurant with an art gallery has opened, and drywall is stacked in an adjoining storefront for a new coffee shop. Nearby, an apartment building with a vegan bakery is poised to open, a dry cleaner is coming, and a luxury condominium complex is being built.
When walking past all the construction, "My husband always turns to me and says 'That's our equity,' " Cooper said.
Drew Greenwald, president of Grid Properties, said Whole Foods has twice signed letters of intent. But negotiations stalled over the store's request for dedicated parking spaces, he said. The 1,000-space garage is being constructed with tax-exempt bonds, and spots cannot be set aside for specific retailers, Greenwald said.
The uncertainty did not stop an agent with Help-U-Sell Homes Matter Realty from recently advertising a four-bedroom townhouse on Euclid Street as being near "future retail incl Target, Whole Foods."
Robin Kang, 29, a computer specialist who bought a Victorian on Newton Place less than a year ago, began the e-mail campaign using a Web site he created.
His role models are the Logan Circle residents who enticed Whole Foods with a 52-page demographic study that demonstrated the affluence of homeowners within half a mile. They also flooded Whole Foods' headquarters with 3,000 pre-printed postcards.
Crista and John Gibbons frequented the P Street store while renting an apartment in Dupont Circle. Three months ago, they bought a house in Columbia Heights.
Crista Gibbons, 29, who works for the National Trust for Historic Preservation, wrote to Whole Foods -- and to Starbucks <http://financial.washingtonpos t.com/custom/wpost/html-qcn.as p?dispnav=business&mwpage=qcn& symb=sbux&nav=el>. And she tried to persuade her Dupont nail salon to open a branch in Columbia Heights. "I'm just thinking of all the things I miss from my old neighborhood," she said.
Gibbons, Kang and Cooper are typical of the newcomers who have flocked to Columbia Heights: young professionals who want a centrally located neighborhood on a Metro line but who can't afford to buy in Dupont Circle, Logan Circle or U Street.
Between 2004 and 2005, the median price of homes in Columbia Heights and neighboring Mount Pleasant increased by 29 percent, according to the Urban Institute. The median price in 2000 was $173,000; in 2005, $450,000.
"I've been a resident of the neighborhood since 2001 and have seen it improve greatly since I moved there," one homeowner wrote in an e-mail to Whole Foods. "The quality of the residents, as well as the quality of the restaurants and stores in the area are likewise on a steep upward trajectory."
Columbia Heights had been depressed since the 1968 riots. Once a thriving shopping district, 14th Street NW between Irving Street and Park Road grew desolate. Middle-class residents fled, elegant rowhouses were boarded up, and apartment buildings deteriorated. A Metro station opened in 2000, beginning a revival that has been gaining speed.
The racial composition of the neighborhood has also been changing, with blacks moving out and whites and Hispanics moving in. In 1990, 66 percent of residents were black, 11 percent were white and 21 percent Hispanic, according to Census figures. By 2000, the most recent figures available, the share of blacks had dropped to 53 percent, while whites and Hispanics increased to 13 percent and 30 percent, respectively. Longtime residents say that trend has accelerated since 2000.
"A lot of the blacks are having to move because they can't afford to stay here," said Fran Robertson, 52, who has lived on Monroe Street since 1979. "These are people who have owned their own homes but have had to leave because the taxes are going up. The affluent is coming in, and the have-nots are moving out, and it's not right."
Robertson knows the pressures firsthand. She took out a $50,000 mortgage two years ago to pay increased real estate taxes. "It's a shame I had to go into debt to keep my house, but you have to do what you have to do," said Robertson, who lives on fixed disability payments.
She considered selling and moving to Prince George's County but did not want to leave the city.
"I like the Whole Foods, I really do," Robertson said. "I go to the Whole Foods on Wisconsin Avenue sometimes with my daughter. I like the cheeses and the fruits. But they have to stop thinking about having so much high-end stuff. They need to think about the little people who've been here all these years."
The discussion about Whole Foods reveals an underlying tension over the pace and shape of development in Columbia Heights.
"It's hard, because I know a lot of people who have lived in this neighborhood for a long time, people of all races, that are interested in Whole Foods," said Anne Theisen, an advisory neighborhood commissioner. "The perception is that Whole Foods leads to gentrification. It speaks to what is already happening in the community and it might accelerate it."
Words are weighed carefully.
Lauren Tobias, 29, a communications consultant who lives at 14th and Chapin streets, spoke glowingly about the prepared foods at Whole Foods and how young professionals want the convenience of picking up a quick, healthy dinner. Then she caught herself. "I don't want it to sound like I'm one of the new people and I need all these services," she said. "But a Whole Foods is just needed."
WSJ 2005
Indeed, cities trying to improve their downtowns are seeking out grocery stores. "Many cities, particularly the densest parts, have been dramatically underserved by grocery stores for the past couple of decades," says Michael Beyard, a senior resident fellow at the Urban Land Institute." They're a major factor in stabilizing neighborhoods and rising property values."
In Sarasota, Fla., Whole Foods recently opened in a downtown retail and condo complex developed by Casto Lifestyle Properties LLP. Sarasota helped finance Casto Lifestyle's mixed-use project because one of its priorities in downtown redevelopment was a full-service grocery, says Brett Hutchens, Casto's president and chief executive. Whole Foods is also going into downtown Oakland, Calif., where condos have been sprouting in an area with no supermarket.
Whole Foods isn't the only big grocery chain going into high-rise condo and apartment buildings. Safeway Inc., for instance, has put stores under residences in cities such as Seattle, Portland and San Francisco. But Safeway doesn't create the buzz a Whole Foods does.
All of the Sarasota project's 95 condos presold at prices from $280,000 to $1.7 million. "No question about it, that was a compelling point for a lot of these people," Mr. Hutchens says. "A real-estate broker for Whole Foods in Chicago called me and wanted to buy one of these units. He said, 'I know what happens to real-estate values when Whole Foods goes in.' "
Other developers have taken notice of the impact. A builder who was thinking of developing across the street from the Sarasota mixed-use complex was keenly interested in the project's status. "He wanted to know if the Whole Foods thing was going forward, because it was going to impact his decision," Mr. Hutchens says.
Erika Brigham, who bought a condo in Met 1, the first in the three-tower project, says the Whole Foods sealed the purchase for her. "It was extremely important to me," she says. "I think it's going to be an enormous generator of downtown activity."
While it creates jobs and adds life to a neighborhood, a Whole Foods store, known for its higher prices, doesn't do much else for lower-income residents. In San Francisco's South of Market district, which encompasses the Aurora at Yerba Buena complex, neighborhood groups have been lobbying for a supermarket for 20 years, but some say the Aurora at Yerba Buena's Whole Foods wasn't the right choice for the area's lower-income residents.
Still, bringing in Whole Foods was "the smartest business decision we've ever made," says Mr. Bond, the developer.
Birmingham store is in Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, not Birmingham itself....Check out the demographics here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M ountain_Brook,_Alabama |
Eastsideal
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 5:44 pm: | |
What Detroit and Detroiters need more than anything else are decent well-stocked and well-operated supermarkets with a wide range of groceries across most price ranges. In other words, what is common in most of the suburbs. Let's start there, and start with trying to adequately serve the population we have, before we get crazy about opening up a Whole Foods. |
Suburbanbliss
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 7:19 pm: | |
Face it. Most Detroiter's feed their spawn "Happy Meals" and buy a burger for themselves. Ghetto Mamma's stop feedin' Whole Foods after the kid gets off the titty! Great grocery does not nor will ever exist in the hood. Lunchables? Chicken Buckets? Pizza Sticks? Ribblettes? Egg Rowes? BBQ anythang? Spicy Meat Bawls? Y'all can buy what y'all want. Instead of drivin' the hoopty to Micky Dee's, make a trip out to Troy and hit up the Whole Foods that exists and thrives. Why would a company that serves Whittey try to make a go of it in the scanky ghetto? |
Chitaku
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 7:20 pm: | |
whoa |
Suburbanbliss
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 7:25 pm: | |
Whittey at' cha! |
6nois
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 7:44 pm: | |
Okay so Suburbanbliss that totally clears up a whole lot about your comment on the St. Pat's Parade thread. Wow. So let me get this right, suburbs equal = white = good. And city = black = bad. Is that a pretty good summary of what you are saying? |
Suburbanbliss
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 8:34 pm: | |
I did not comment on the St. Pat's thread. I attend every year and love it. Your equations seem to suggest that African Americans and other non-Whites do not live in or enjoy suburban lifestyles. Don't be jealous because we all enjoy a higher standard of living outside of the city limits. The suburbs are not 100% White. Come and check it out sometime when your looking for a grocery store. We have literally hundreds of them. Clean, safe and fairly priced. It's great! |
Pffft
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 8:38 pm: | |
Just to counteract all this love for Whole Foods Market, read this story from the New York Times about a worker at a Whole Foods in NYC who was fired ...for intending to eat (not even eating) a tuna fish sandwich that was going to be thrown out. The big-hearted company even tried to have his unemployment denied. Oh and p.s., it was his first ever "misconduct."
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes. com/2009/03/16/fired-over-a-tu na-sandwich-and-fighting-back/ ?hp |
Suburbanbliss
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 8:49 pm: | |
Yikes! Forgot about the rap-off comment. I'm sure you are not suggesting that only African Americans rap. I certainly was not! |
6nois
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 8:55 pm: | |
Maybe I am wrong and you have no intent to sound like a racist. In that case I owe you an apology. And with that a suggestion. You might consider not wording your comments to come off as thinly covered race driven and heated comments. Oh but where would the fun be in that. |
Lodgedodger
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 9:50 pm: | |
>>Instead of drivin' the hoopty to Micky Dee's, make a trip out to Troy and hit up the Whole Foods that exists and thrives. Why would a company that serves Whittey try to make a go of it in the scanky ghetto?<<
Oh, Sweet Jesus. |
Cheddar_bob
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| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:57 pm: | |
When I first saw the suburbanbliss name, I was think of this chick...
http://www.suburbanbliss.net/
Now, I'm more inclined to believe it may be a new incarnation of ltorivia. |
Jjw
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 5:47 am: | |
Rooms222 makes a lot of sense. Safeway was the first national chain to invest in a number of Baltimore City neighborhoods. They came way before Whole Foods. Perhaps letters to Safeway may be a more sure bet. |
Swingline
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 12:54 pm: | |
Not to threadjack, but given what some claim is the supposedly overwhelmingly good intentions of white folks and their desire to see Detroit revitalized as a thriving urban, diverse place, plenty of white folks wonder about where clueless leaders like Monica Conyers and Barbara Rose Collins develop their myopic and racist worldviews. Well, how about from gems like this: quote:Face it. Most Detroiter's feed their spawn "Happy Meals" and buy a burger for themselves. Ghetto Mamma's stop feedin' Whole Foods after the kid gets off the titty! Great grocery does not nor will ever exist in the hood. Lunchables? Chicken Buckets? Pizza Sticks? Ribblettes? Egg Rowes? BBQ anythang? Spicy Meat Bawls? Y'all can buy what y'all want. Instead of drivin' the hoopty to Micky Dee's, make a trip out to Troy and hit up the Whole Foods that exists and thrives. Why would a company that serves Whittey try to make a go of it in the scanky ghetto? If Suburbanbliss was attempting an edgy joke, he/she whiffed by a mile. If not, well, thanks for reinforcing the black stereotype of the racist, insensitive, "living in a bubble of privilege" white suburbanite. |
Detroitnerd
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 1:22 pm: | |
Let's flip it and see what happens:
Face it. Most suburban Detroiters feed their spawn Applebee's kids meals and buy a crappy, hormone-injected steak for themselves. Fat-ass, SUV-driving, cell-phone blabbing soccer moms start feeding salt-laden, sugary power drinks and Sunny D after the kid gets off the wet-nurse! Great culture does not nor will ever exist in the suburbs. Hootie and the Blowfish? Dave Matthew Band? Phil Fucking Collins? Khaki slacks? Phish CDs? You can buy what you want. Instead of drivin' the overpriced gas hog down Hell Road to Fatburger, make a trip down to Detroit and hit up Avalon Breads that exists and thrives. Why would a company that serves people with taste try to make a go of it in the sterile burbs? |
Mashugruskie
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 2:35 pm: | |
Oh please. Anyone who's read her blog knows she's just forgotten to take her meds.
Go and read pooponpeeps.com and enter in either suburban bliss or Melissa Sommers. |
Mashugruskie
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 2:39 pm: | |
Screw that. Why search? Here's the link:
http://www.pooponpeeps.com/?p= 151 |
Detroit_renew
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| | Posted on Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:41 pm: | |
Going back to the very original thread... the point of this posting was to inform people, that are interested in having a whole foods in Detroit, to suggest a new store on the Whole Foods website... For those who have positive suggestions please give your support. (You have to register, but just un-check the box and you won't get spam email).
http://www.wholefoodsmarket.co m/forums/index.php?plckForumPa ge=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscuss ionId=Cat%3ab7a46641-decf-4337 -a3a5-93b2342d08bfForum%3abbfb 0510-f536-4fab-9cec-ae561906a2 67Discussion%3ac8dd75c1-0171-4 89c-b296-03bd8d9efffc&plckCate goryCurrentPage=0 |
Jt1
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| | Posted on Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:56 pm: | |
quote:Face it. Most Detroiter's feed their spawn "Happy Meals" and buy a burger for themselves. Ghetto Mamma's stop feedin' Whole Foods after the kid gets off the titty! Great grocery does not nor will ever exist in the hood. Lunchables? Chicken Buckets? Pizza Sticks? Ribblettes? Egg Rowes? BBQ anythang? Spicy Meat Bawls? Y'all can buy what y'all want. Instead of drivin' the hoopty to Micky Dee's, make a trip out to Troy and hit up the Whole Foods that exists and thrives. Why would a company that serves Whittey try to make a go of it in the scanky ghetto?
I hope this ignorant bitch gets run over. |
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