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Jt1
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Macomb County: $10.825MM
Oakland Count: $93.16MM
Wayne: $69.31MM
St. Clair: ~$30MM
Gennessee: $36.15MM
Washtenaw: $24.4MM

10MM allocated for Oakland/Wayne project.

Looks like once again the County that bitches about spreading tax dollars if the first in line for the most. Looks like Macomb County is really getting f'ed based upon area, population and amount allocated.

Funny that Brooks is so quiet about the allocation of these dollars.

http://www.michigan.gov/docume nts/mdot/MDOT_Stim_Cand_Projec ts_02-20-09_269166_7.pdf
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Novine
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These projects were selected by MDOT. The counties didn't get a say in how MDOT prioritized the dollars. Macomb's allocation is lower because they have fewer road miles of state roads and the state's been pouring money into I-94 in the county for the past couple of years.
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Trainman
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Your YES vote for the August 2010 SMART property tax renewal means NO state money for mass transit and SMART and DDOT.

If transit prominent mass transit advocacy group members get their way, our state will join the many states that no longer provide any money for mass transit. State funds for SMART and DDOT will be history.

This is because it is much easier to raise and secure local and county money and in larger amounts.

In the words of one transit tax advocate, the three most important things the taxpayers need to know at the voting booth is Money, Money and Money. Thus, always vote YES, YES, YES for all mass transit tax increases.
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Detroitplanner
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I don't have the exact #'s in front of me, but local communities in Wayne County got about $85 million in transportation dollars, while Oakland got $24 million and Macomb about $20 million. In addition there was $20 million split for SMART service.

These dollars came into the state through formula. Most of the transit money has yet to be allocated yet.

You seem to forget that these dollars are for projects that need to be built right away to stimulate the economy. This skews the program toward who can deliver projects the fastest.

There are crappy roads and improvements that can be made thoughout the region. To complain that others are getting some dollars is just idiotic, especially when you consider this is the same board that chides City Council for being sepratists and not wanting to think regionally.

The bottom line is a better functioning transportation system will help the entire region. New buses or transit kiosks in Oakland County will get folks riding buses to and in Detroit. Smoother roads will help lessen wear and tear on all our verhicles. In case you live an a vaccum, you now that probably 90 percent of the City reident's retail dollar is spent OUTSIDE the City, wile a good portion of the suburbanite's entertainment dollar is spent WITHIN the city.
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Jt1
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here are crappy roads and improvements that can be made thoughout the region.



I agree and it is a shame that they are pissing away $60 Million to widen M-59 in an area that does not get backed up.

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To complain that others are getting some dollars is just idiotic, especially when you consider this is the same board that chides City Council for being sepratists and not wanting to think regionally.



Seems someone missed the point. Patterson is the first to bitch when his county doesn;t get every penny possible. I find it funny that he is silent about the distribution of these funds. He tends to be silent when his county gets the major benefit.

As far as saying it is idiotic I suggest you look at the projects that are being done first before you start throwing terms like idiotic around. Stimlating the economy is one thing, pissing away money on projects like spending 60 MM on widening 59 is idiotic.

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The bottom line is a better functioning transportation system will help the entire region. New buses or transit kiosks in Oakland County will get folks riding buses to and in Detroit. Smoother roads will help lessen wear and tear on all our verhicles. In case you live an a vaccum, you now that probably 90 percent of the City reident's retail dollar is spent OUTSIDE the City, wile a good portion of the suburbanite's entertainment dollar is spent WITHIN the city.



None of that is truly relevant to the point.

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In case you live an a vaccum, you now that probably 90 percent of the City reident's retail dollar is spent OUTSIDE the City



And that has to do with what? SO the fact that Detroit retail is underserved we should widen roads that don't need it. The cure for a lack of retail and investment in Detroit is to waste money on projects in districts that have more pull with MDOT and SEMCOG. That is purely idiotic.

It isn't about a lack of cooperation but it is a matter of local politicans allocating money to pointless projects because they are in their county then bitching everytime they have to pay for anything else.

If you honestly want to believe that road improvements in other counties (which road improvements should be done in other counties) will help Detroit you are about as delusional as they come. You should probably read up on the wonderful impact the freeways had on the city, the boom that extending infrastructure further out has had on the city.

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