Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 703 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.19.23.97
| Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 11:16 pm: | |
Part One of Detroit Hupmobile plants. The Hupp plants that are in the OCF database:
345 Bellvue Ave 115-185(657) Lycaste 1300-1324 Jefferson & Concord Milwaukee & Mt. Elliott The first photo is the Jefferson factory. DPL/NAHC WSU/CFAI This is the factory that is purported to become the King Motor Car factory in 1911 or 1912, but other articles on Hupp have things really confused as to the dates which plants were used when. I tried to find some old aerials of the factory, but the Morgan & Wright tire factory is putting out so much smoke that it is obscurred in every photo that I've found so far. Waiting for the wind to change... An ad for the 1910 Hupmobile, made in the Jefferson Ave plant. I may post an inquiry on the AACA forum to see if anyone can pin down the Hupmobile factory dates. (Message edited by Hornwrecker on January 11, 2006) |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 2289 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.15.105
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:06 am: | |
I posted this picture on this thread, at which time I concluded that it was the former factory of the Detroit Gasket & Mfg Co. The map at the bottom of the thread showing Detroit Gaskett is from 1947. In 1925, Detroit Gaskett was at 1230 Wilbur St, south of Henry Ford Hospital, so they must have moved out of the city to expand. Today I discovered in a 1973 Polk's directory that it is listed as Chrysler's Burt Road Export Plant, 12640 Burt Rd. Most of my Chrysler stuff is on page 9 of this thread. Some listings for Chrysler from 1973, most of which we already have: Airtemps Division - 14226 Schaefer Hwy Burt Road Export Plant - 12640 Burt Rd Clairpointe Pre-production Plant - 12217 Freud Conant Trim Plant - 7900 Jos Campau Detroit Universal Division - 6455 Kingsley, Dearborn Wyoming Export Plant - 6000 Wyoming Hamtramck Assembly Plant - 7900 Jos Campau Hamtamck Trim Plant - 7900 Jos Campau Huber Ave Foundry - 6425 Huber Ave Jefferson Assembly Plant - 12200 E Jefferson Jefferson Trim Plant - 12200 E Jefferson Lynch Assembly Plant - 6334 Lynch Rd Detroit Forge Plant - 6600 Lynch Rd Eldon Ave Axle Plant - 6700 Lynch Rd Mack Ave Stamping - 11631 Mack Ave McGraw Glass Plant - 9400 McGraw Mound Road Engine Plant - 20300 Mound Rd Outer Drive Stamping - 3675 E Outer Dr Sterling Stamping - 35777 Van Dyke, Sterling Twp Truck Engineering Office - 6565 E Eight Mile Rd, Warren Vernor Tool & Die - 12026 E Vernor Hwy Vernor Trim Plant - 12025 E Vernor Hwy Warren Stamping - 22800 Mound Rd, Warren Warren Tool & Die - 8701 E Eight Mile Rd, Warren Warren Truck Assembly - 21500 Mound Rd, Warren Warren Office & Warehouse - 6565 E Eight Mile Rd, Warren Winfield Foundry - 9611 Winfield St (Message edited by MikeM on January 11, 2006) |
Scrippsbooth Member Username: Scrippsbooth
Post Number: 9 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 4.232.186.164
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 2:45 am: | |
Perhaps the best Hupp historian around is my friend Bill Cuthbert who put out his book "THE HUPMOBILE STORY" in 2004. On page 41 he quote ATJ June 1 1912 "Hupp Motor Car Company Detroit Mich. new plant Milwaukee and Mt. Elliott Aves. is now complete...by March the Detroit production facilities had been relocated to new quarters at Mt. Elliott and and Milwaukee Avenues." Then from HA February 21 1912 the King Motor Car Co "will remove on or about March 1 to the factory now occupied by the Hupp Motor Car Co. Jefferson avenue east and Concord avenue Detroit Mich. So it appears the move took place the first few days in the beginning of March 1912. Up to this time it looks like the Hupp factory was just an assembly plant purchasing parts and pieces from local suppliers. One question is who supplied the Baby Hup unit power plant? I think the best canidate is Golden Belknap & Swartz [GBS] that was located on GRA a little before WGB. I have pictures of the GBS 1913 unit power plant model which appears to be the same design as the Baby Hup engine but am looking for a GBS picture or advertisement in the 1909 to 1912 period. (Message edited by Scrippsbooth on January 12, 2006) |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 704 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.40.168
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 1:40 pm: | |
Thanks for the info S-B, our main source, the Szudarek book, is less than clear on the subject. Part Two of Hupmobile's Detroit factories. This first photo provides a clue that we should be able to track down to determine and/or confirm its location. I suspect it is the Bellevue factory. The sign by the door reads "Hupp Motor Car Co." WSU/CFIA A close up of the water tower in the background. This next photo is now what I think an early photo of the Milwaukee and Mt. Elliot factory area. It sure looks like it was taken out in the boonies. (Note the shadow cast by the cameraman in the foreground.) DPL/NAHC Today's tour concludes with our old friend, the Hupp/Hupp-Yates/R.C.H./Liberty/Kess-Line factory on Lycaste. The last iteration as Kess-Line, again for old times sake. A close up from the K-Line photo showing the Ice(?) plant in the background. It also appears that what are two buildings in the Hupp photo are now joined into one. Finally a shot of the boys at the Hupp plant, probably from the first years. WSU |
Bate Member Username: Bate
Post Number: 50 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 4.247.137.85
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 3:57 pm: | |
Psip, For more on Fisher 12 (1961 E. Milwaukee)check out page 1 or 2 for overhead before/after images - you can still see the outline of the plant after demolition. Good job posting the HAER photos, I only had a link before. I'll float this as well...is anyone interested in doing some photo recon next Saturday 1/21? Yes, I know it's the middle of winter, but I only get to visit Detroit in January. If so, drop me a line batinc@gate.net. I will make sure the "tourguide" is properly compensated (cash, food, drink). Regards, bate |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 2290 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.15.105
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 8:00 pm: | |
Bate, I might be available. I'm off to Airbus school for the next two weeks, but I might have the weekend off. I'll send you an email later in the week. Back on page 12, I mentioned that Briggs had a plant on Harper that burned down. Today I found this picture and some details. It was at the corner of Harper and Russell. An explosion in the spray painting department started the fire on April 23, 1927. It burned for two days, killed 21 people, and with the loss estimated at $2,265,000, it became the city's first $2,000,000 fire. I wonder it the film from the cameraman on the right exists somewhere. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 2291 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.15.105
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 8:48 pm: | |
I briefly mentioned Gemmer on page 5 of this thread where I posted that they set up shop in town in 1907 at 741 Merrick Ave. On page 9, the history of Divco says that they expanded into the former Gemmer factory at 2435 Merrick, corner of 16th Street, which is what the 741 address translates to after 1921. I have no date for the move of Gemmer to Mt Elliott, nor for the move of Divco to the Merrick Ave facility (sounds like late-1920s). Divco went bankrupt, was sold to Continental Motors, and production was moved to the Continental factory on E Jefferson in 1932, and to Hoover in Warren a few years later. The Merrick site looks empty and I found this today: The factory was abandoned and burned down on June 15, 1939. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 2294 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.15.105
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 10:23 pm: | |
I drove by the former Chrysler Burt Road Export Plant today, 12640 Burt, just south of I-96. The front (west) side is fronted by a long office building with boarded-up windows: The sign over the door says "Burt Industrial Park" and upon closer inspection, I found these two carvings on either side. I suppose since the woman is holding a gasket, we can assume the plant was built for the Detroit Gasket & Manufacturing Company. On the backside you can see the profile of the large side-lighted roof quite well. The factory and out buildings have all been painted a light shade of blue: From two summers ago:
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Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 2295 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.15.105
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 10:50 pm: | |
My earlier post with the GM Parts address of 8211 Decatur puts it at the corner of Tireman and Decatur. The Tireman Road view: The back end of the building is being used as a mental health clinic while the front end is being rehabbed. At the very back, a set of loading docks has "Receiving" and "Shipping" signs above, both in that standard GM blue they use for signs on their property. Behind it (north on Decatur) is another warehouse of similar style which might have been part of the operation. It's still being used as a warehouse. Again, too wide and long to fit in the lens from any angle:
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Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 706 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.19.18.38
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 11:18 pm: | |
Part Three of Detroit's Hupmobile factories. This is the Hupp plant on Milwaukee and Mt. Elliot, aerial view from 1949. The next seven photos are from the Library of Congress, Built in America gallery, documenting buildings demolished for the Poletown plant. Overall view looking west. Overall view looking northwest. Overall view looking west. Courtyard between buildings 7 and 8, looking west. Watertower on roof looking northwest. Interior of 4th floor, building 8. Interior of 5th floor, building 8. LOC, Built in America An aerial view looking east from the 1930s. Dodge Main towards the lower left, Hupp center, Packard mid-upper right side. WSU/VMC |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 2298 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.15.105
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 11:25 pm: | |
Chrysler listed 6455 Kingsley in Dearborn as an address for its Detroit Universal Division. Chrysler seemd to have a little west side operation in the 1960's. This grainy aerial view is looking toward the northwest at Wyoming between McGraw and W Warren: MGG = McGraw Glass, formerly the DeSoto Plant DUD = Detroit Universal Division DST = Detroit Seamless Tube, no relation to Chrysler GP = Graham Paige, where Chryrsler briefly built Imperials I've posted pictures of the DeSoto and Graham factories earlier. Here's the best I could do for the Universal plant on Kingsley. Kingsley is residential on the west side and the plant is walled off for the benefit of the residents. The east side of the plant is hidden behind the huge Seamless Tube factory, which is now called the Dearborn Steel Center. I think Universal made drivetrain components. (Message edited by MikeM on January 12, 2006) |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 707 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.19.18.38
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 11:49 pm: | |
Hupmobile Factory Addendum: The Hupmobile factory in Windsor circa 1913, from the Windsor Community Museum. (not sure if this has been posted before) To keep it international, an ad from France for the 1930 Hupmobile. This is an ad for the Hupp-Yeats electric car, later R.C.H. A closeup of the address... A photo of a 1911 Hupp-Yeats from the Reynolds-Alberta Museum in Wetaskiwin AB. Finally, a color ad from the 20s, just because.
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Aiw
Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 5217 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.197.254
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 12:30 am: | |
I think I posted that Hupp one a while back. The building is still standing, however it is converted to office use. Here are some pictures of the Seagrave factory in Windsor on Walker Road, that we discussed a loooong time ago:
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Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 709 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.118
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 1:34 pm: | |
Lkingsr is having some difficulty in posting to this thread, so he sent me these images to post and resize. I took some liberties in PS to get some more detail out of them. Thanks for the photos and info! The first photo is from a newsletter showing the King factory on Jefferson, former Hupmobile factory, from 1914. The next photos are from a postcard and a manual showing the King factories, from around 1916. Any ideas of the smaller building? I don't think I've seen the arch roofed one before, maybe a dealership(?). The last photos I found especially interesing, they are from a pamphlet announcing the opening of a large King dealership on Woodward and Warren in 1920, called the Crosstown Corporation. Have we covered this at all, or is it new information? (This must be one of the busiest weeks on the OCF thread in a long time.) |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 150 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 7:53 pm: | |
A Germer Sanborn Map.
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Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 151 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 8:31 pm: | |
A Crosstown map.
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Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 713 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.52
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 11:44 pm: | |
So it looks like the Crosstown Corp was where the Rackham Memorial Education Building now stands, unless I'm reading the map wrong. Since that was built in 1941, the Crosstown only lasted 20 years. I'm searching for photos of that intersection, but it seems only Art Centre Bowling (22 lanes!) survived the Rackham construction. Looking at the drawings and photos of the Hupp/King plant on Jefferson, and from the aerial posted earlier, it looks like that was demolished to make way for the U.S. Rubber/Uniroyal plant expansion. Aiw, it appears that the Seagrave factory hasn't been touched and is in original condition. Some anonymous person should come up with a "Historic Auto/Truck Factory" stencil to put up a sign in a conspicuous spot, not that I'm advocating graffiti in anyway. Perhaps one could apply for a grant to mark these buildings for purely educational purposes. Mikem, you posted so much Chrysler info, I don't know what to include in the db. I'm starting to move parts only factories into the parts section, and am changing some of the parts entries into motor. The main "A" is only going to be for assembly plants. or as close as they can to that. Huebner Mfg: I haven't been able to find anything on the web about the firm. My google-fu fails me. So that Hupp Motor Co location isn't decided. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 2300 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.15.105
| Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 3:07 am: | |
I asked about this factory, 3901 Christopher in Hamtramck, on page 6. Hamtramck Steve responded that it was at one time the Grinding Machine Co. I've since discovered that it was the Gear Grinding Machine Co, listed in my 1925 directory at the intersection of Connant and the G T Ry. Sometime after the war the Dana Corp bought the plant. It is listed in my phone book as their "Con-Vel Division" plant. Con-Vel = Constant Velocity: From the history of the Dana Corp: http://www.dana.com/centennial /histbook/New_Dana_Complete.pd f
quote:New companies (and new names) were added to the Dana Corporation. Auburn Clutch, a well-known manufacturer of light-and heavy-duty clutches; Chelsea Products, a leading designer and producer of power take-offs (PTOs); and Con-vel, which owned exclusive U.S. rights to the Rzeppa constant velocity u-joints, were acquired in the late 1940s and 1950s to broaden Dana’s “under-the-vehicle” product offering. To sell more product, Dana opened a showcase facility in Fort Wayne, Indiana, for the Salisbury Axle Division, which in turn freed up space in Toledo to produce more transmissions. The company also acquired a new frame plant in Detroit, and purchased a small outfit in Marion, Indiana, in 1950 to increase production of its u-joints. Though small, Marion Tool and Engineering had great potential in the eyes of Charles Dana and Ralph Carpenter. Within months of acquiring the shop, they moved work from the Hillsdale Division and broke ground on a new plant. By 1960, Dana’s Marion Division produced 20 percent of all driveshafts in the United States."
A ditty on the Rzeppa CV joint from a gearhead site:
quote:"In marked contrast to the cardan style universal joint, a true constant-velocity (CV) universal joint is one that transmits torque/rotation with an angular velocity ratio of unity between input and output shafts. In other words, even at an angle, the input and output shafts travel at the same (Constant) speed (Velocity) hence the name - Constant Velocity. CV universal joints are not common in 4x4 driveshafts, but are very common in front wheel drive car half-shafts (axles). The pic to the left shows a very common style of CV joint, the Rzeppa joint, invented in 1920 by a Dana engineer named Alfred H. Rzeppa
I'll let you google pictures of Rzeppa joints. I'll try to find the frame plant they bought. |
Aiw
Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 5221 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.197.254
| Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 3:19 pm: | |
Horwrecker, the Seagrave factory is in largely original condition, it was however expanded from the original as business increased. Here's how it looked in 1913: If any of the old factories in Windsor was the most threatened, it would be this one. It has been mostly vacant for a long time, and is detreriorating. Every once in a while demolition rumors float around, but nothing ever comes of them. |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 717 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.19.16.55
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 1:10 am: | |
Aiw, it looks like they did a great job of expanding the original building. As it appears to me, the section on the right was the original, and the center and other wing were added complimenting the intial bldg. If the neighbourhood still looked the way in that 1913 pic, that building would be the perfect size for apts or condos. Better yet would be a fire dept museum. I've received another scan from Lkingsr, this one of the dealership on Woodward and new car line announcement.
quote:This one is of the "Coronation of the King." It shows the first showing of the 1911 King "Silent 36". The location was the Thompson Auto Company at 972 Woodward Avenue. A sales agency for the "Coronation of the King" put an over-size crown fitted on a King. The sign in the window shows a date of June 22nd. Their first plant was a rented one at 1559 W. Jefferson. They started building cars in 1911 from the rented plant. The first King cars also had several firsts for the industry. They included, left hand steering, center control gearshift, and contilever springs. Charles King was awarded some 40 patents relating to the motor car and its components.
I dig that cool, giant crown on the back of the car. Oops, wrong generation, I mean... 23 skidoo? |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 720 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.2.149.151
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:23 am: | |
I found this family tree in a book I'm reading about Chrysler history. I wish I would have seen this earlier while trying to figure it out. From: "Riding the Rollercoaster, A History of the Chrysler Corporation." Charles K. Hyde, WSU Press, 2003. |
Psip
Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 850 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 3:29 am: | |
I posted this on another thread, but think its important for people that only come to this thread. http://maps.a9.com/?ypLoc=3800 %20Woodward%20Ave%2C%20Detroit %2C%20MI Is a new map program that drives you down streets and shows what buildings on there! THere are many places that are not available yet Its a somewhat clumsy to use, but pretty good pictures. |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 152 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:52 pm: | |
I went out on Sunday with my camera looking for buildings I haven't photographed yet. Of course I ran into others with cameras. We need to wear OCF hats to identify ourselves to other explorers. I drove by the Federal Truck plant. It was a hubbub of flea market activity. Does anyone have old Cadillac Clark St. pictures? Crossing town, what was the old factory building/now condos at Bellevue and Jefferson? |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 722 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.2.148.2
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 2:27 pm: | |
Sven, I've got a couple of B&W photos of the Clark St plant. Let me check the archives to see if they've been posted yet. (It's getting too difficult to keep track of stuff, maybe I'll have to add an index column to the db, if I get really bored, emphasis on the really.) |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 153 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 2:47 pm: | |
MikeM, do you have a photo of a factory at Custer and John R.? That is the location of Cadillac plant #4. Have we discussed that already? |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 154 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 3:53 pm: | |
Federal Truck Cadillac Plant #4 (Message edited by SVEN1977 on January 16, 2006) |
Psip
Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 861 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 4:33 pm: | |
Here is a link to a 1922 Cass Tech Mechanical Drawing text book. http://tinyurl.com/cr7n6 Check out the homepage, this site has many old technical books online. |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1112 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.57
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:42 pm: | |
Sven, Jefferson at Bellevue is the location of the Frederick Stearns & Company, a manufacturing pharmaceuticals firm. The building was designed by Stratton and Baldwin in 1899, with a tower addition by Albert Kahn c.1910. It was renovated in Schervish Vogel Merz in 1989 when it was turned residential as The Lofts. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:49 pm: | |
Federal Truck, as did Cadillac, apparently got great railroad service, being serviced directly from both the Detroit Line and the Michigan Line. (Message edited by LivernoisYard on January 16, 2006) |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 723 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.59
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:10 pm: | |
I checked the archives, and I don't think that these photos have been posted before. The first is the Cadillac Clark St plant in the mid 50s. A close up of the bridges across Clark (?). A view from the railroad side, showing both lines, probably from the 1970s. All photos from WSU, beware their mislabelled photos. Sven, any idea of a street number for Cadillac #4, and what date was the map from? |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:24 pm: | |
The Clark Cadillac was almost a city in itself. I can only imagine how busy the local bars were before the 1980s. The "Enpowerment Zone" there in its wake today is a total bust. On Clark Street now there's a FedEx facility, some plant (that I forget what it does), and a (minority-owned) firm which made gas tanks before being caught bilking the Feds for money. So that firm probably isn't even in operation anymore... |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 724 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.59
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:55 pm: | |
You're not kidding about being a city. Never be driving near there, back then, during shift change. I got stuck near Dodge Main once during shift change, that was the last time that ever happened. Here's an aerial of Clark St from 1949, just as a reminder of how big.
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Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:52 am: | |
There was a huge underground tunnel system underneath much of the Clark Street plant. I hear that some of it isn't all destroyed (or covered up adequately) on account of some stories I've heard from some curious explorers. |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1113 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.57
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:18 am: | |
For all of you Cadillac Clark St. plant fans, author Lolita Hernandez, who worked at the old Clark Cadillac Assembly Plant in southwest Detroit, will be signing copies of her book "Autopsy of an Engine" at the Detroit Historical Museum on Saturday, January 21 at 1pm. (For more info on the event: http://www.detroithistorical.o rg/thingstodo/index.asp?ID=3) For more info on the book: http://www.coffeehousepress.or g/autopsyofanengine.asp |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 155 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:32 pm: | |
Hornwrecker, I believe the Caddy plant address is 1301-1309 John R. The map is probably from 1915. |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 156 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 7:20 pm: | |
This picture matches the King picture above and the map in an earlier thread. It's on EGB near Jefferson.
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Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 726 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.19.25.20
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:27 pm: | |
Good find Sven, that's got to be the building. Amazing that it looks like it hasn't been changed all that much in all these years. Was that the bldg labeled as King Chassis Shop, or something like that on the Sanborn? What does the sign say? Here are a couple of photos of the Chrysler-Plymouth factory showroom that was in front of the Jefferson Ave factory, 1933. DCHC The new 1934 Airflows are here! DCHC An aerial view from 1949.
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Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 157 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:24 pm: | |
The sign on the building a few posts above says, "Design Sculpt Render". The Sanborn Map labels it as King Motor Car Co. Auto Chassis Warehouse |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1116 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.57
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:57 pm: | |
Thanks, Sven, for mentioning what the sculpted sign over the door says. Dave and I have looked at that building numerous times, puzzling over the sign. The use of the building as an automotive facility never even crossed our minds. I think today it is used as an artist design studio, and we thought it might have had a similar use in the past. |
Photoall Member Username: Photoall
Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 3:35 am: | |
I have a framed photo Labell Funeral Motor Cars patented April 8, 1913 Owned and operated by Labell funeral Motor Car Co. office and garage 390 third Avenue, detroit, Mich. telephone Grand 3226 Office open Night and Day I am looking for any information on this company. Also I am interested in selling this 12x24 black wood frame. it has some water damage but you can see the 2 funeral coaches open and closed sides.. I haven't taken it out of glass because I think it will damage the photo. Looks like it may be stuck to glass and don't know what to do to loasen it. Thanks email at photoallisme@aol.com if interested. I have enjoyed looking at the old car factories sites especially because i have a 1938 buick model 48 2-door all original. straight eight engine and 6-volt electrical. thanks Al |
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