Downtown_remix Member Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 401 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 9:23 pm: | |
did anyone see the article in the paper today? |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 2555 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 9:28 pm: | |
https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/5/106613.html#POST719951 |
Psip Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 1953 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 9:33 pm: | |
The booty of the war. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5763 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 9:50 pm: | |
I was about to say, we already have a Quicken thread going, why not post it there? Not to mention it's already part of the conversation. |
Downtown_remix Member Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 402 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 9:52 pm: | |
Word is spreading quickly about this, MGM, Book Cadillac Motor City casino and Greektown casino hotels will surely fit in to the new energy downtown is preparing itself for. This offers so much hope for an entire region. People here seem to have a heavy emotional connection to the cities successes and its overall direction. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1556 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:03 pm: | |
Don't forget the Ponchatrain, Fort-Shelby, the Condo Projects and the turn around at the TP. |
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit
Post Number: 526 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:04 pm: | |
dont forget about the 350 murders in the last 12 months either.... |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1557 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:09 pm: | |
"dont forget about the 350 murders in the last 12 months either...." So much for the Spiritofdetroit. You sound just like Bullet. |
Cgunn Member Username: Cgunn
Post Number: 61 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:11 pm: | |
^ That's NOT the spirit Detroiters have. I think you need to change your name |
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit
Post Number: 527 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:11 pm: | |
Its just important we dont forget about it. 350 murders is more important than a renovation of one dilapidated hotel. 350 lives destroyed. 350+ families devastated...... Crime should be THE issue in detroit |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1558 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:15 pm: | |
True, but it doesn't mean we can't have a better built Downtown like St. Louis, troubled with similar issues. The crime issues will have to be resolved as the next few years progress, so why worry about that? |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5765 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:16 pm: | |
I wish it was only 350 (that sounds horrible). It was actually 414, but this is no more relevant to this issue than bringing up the renovation of the B-C in a thread on Detroit murder. |
Bussey Member Username: Bussey
Post Number: 534 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:56 pm: | |
actually, fixing the economy will help to fight crime. More eyes and ears to help lower the ghost town/creepy feeling you get when in Detroit. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1564 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 11:06 pm: | |
I agree Bussey. Maybe the reason there's so much crime in Detroit is due to the lack of People and spectators. Cities like New York have that, but it's difficult depicting the person in thick crowds. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3357 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 11:09 pm: | |
quote:Maybe the reason there's so much crime in Detroit is due to the lack of People and spectators. Yeah! Let's blame Detroit's troubles on people who have nothing to do with causing them... |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1565 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 11:15 pm: | |
LY, have you ever heard of the "Neighborhood Watch Program"? You'll say people should take pride in their city, and it can start by having people in the neighborhoods keeping a sharp eye on suspicious occurances and people. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3358 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 11:31 pm: | |
quote:LY, have you ever heard of the "Neighborhood Watch Program"? You'll say people should take pride in their city, and it can start by having people in the neighborhoods keeping a sharp eye on suspicious occurances and people. occurrences--that should be. I lived on farms for over two decades--with the nearest neighbor a half mile or so away and without ever once realizing just how dangerous those times were. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1566 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 11:38 pm: | |
"I lived on farms" Comparing Detroit to a farm is just insane. "OCCURRENCES" or "HAPPENINGS" are less likely to occur in the Country, unless it was a Cornfield prank or something. Of course you're not going to notice anything because nothing happens. That is different for big cities like Detroit. When you have densely populated neighborhoods with people, it wouldn't hurt to have your Neighbor patrol the neighborhood for suspicious "occurrences" or "looking people". It would both lessen the chances of a crime even taking place if someone's keeping a close watch. Plus, you want have to wait on the slow DPD either. (Message edited by Urbanize on July 07, 2007) |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3359 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:14 am: | |
Let's reintroduce Livonia back into its thread... Some six decades ago, Livonia's three dozen square miles were still semi-rural. Yet Livonia probably never had any Neighborhood Watches and never came under attack by the 1.8 million Detroiters. Today, there are fewer than half that number of Detroiters, and Livonians are probably well aware of the occasionally troubling presence of Detroiters and their crimes. BTW, it's hard to keep track of various MO-RONS and some of their even dumber (idiotic) threads without a scorecard. Some of them are promoting farming its East side prairies and such. Working on the possible assumptions that some of the posters in this thread might have advocated such topics worthy of being in The Onion, how come those posters can claim Detroit as being future farms and then mentioning in other threads (as this one) about how ridiculous it is that Detroit can ever be compared to farmland? Seems revisionistic and self-serving to me. I can just visualize food scrappers plundering the fields (maybe even raping the women in the process) while loading up their Family Dollar carts and selling their booty to various farm coops and groceries. (Message edited by Livernoisyard on July 08, 2007) |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1570 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:26 am: | |
When you speak of the Morons laying down the double-standard in terms of Farming and Detroit, you must be discussing UrbanOutdoors and company. If you read those MO-RONS post, they never did mention anything about supporting Urban farming. Beyond the fact that the MO-RONS names never even top the thread, so you can't assume the MO-RONS started that bullshit. In addition, Livonia has an excellent Police Department patrolling their streets and providing the citizens with great response time, UNLIKE the City of Detroit. Citizens are the only ones that can keep their neighborhoods safe and crime free in situations like that (which is encouraged at this time by the DPD), especially with a money starved, Shrinking Police Department. They can take initiaives such as putting up their outdoor treasures in safe places and have people Patrol the Neighborhood, just looking, not investigating for suspicious, odd things occuring or missing. Isn't that what neighborhoods are suppose to do. Then again, you wouldn't know living the life in the Cornfields. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1571 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:28 am: | |
I'm turning in now, good night LivernoisYard and everyone. |
Bussey Member Username: Bussey
Post Number: 535 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 1:03 am: | |
The only reference I was trying to make was that as there are more people living in an area there begins to develop more of a community. If this community if made of people who have jobs, property, etc...then maybe the crime will go down as a result. Also, as there are more of these kinds of people then maybe more ancillary jobs will develop making crime go down further because some of the not so bright people who might be involved in these petty crimes, not including the murders, will get jobs. LivernoisYard, judging by your lack of pertinent response I can tell you live in a rural area. Was the corner store all out of Jane Jacobs' book when you and Goober went for coffee. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1572 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 1:15 am: | |
lol Bussey. |
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 341 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 1:36 am: | |
what's the point in all these arguments about murders. Besides, if you want to draw some sort of relationship between a new headquarters moving downtown and people getting shot, the new dt location will provide money for the city which can be allocated towards fighting crime. |
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch
Post Number: 967 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:24 am: | |
quote:Livonia mayor announced quicken loan move to detroit.
quote:did anyone see the article in the paper today? No. In what paper? In todays Livonia Observer, there is an article about the possibility of Quicken moving that states no decision has been made. The Livonia Mayor does mention it will be hard to compete with what Detroit can offer, such as a parking garage with spaces worth $20,000 each and other incentives. I believe they will move. |