Chris_rohn Member Username: Chris_rohn
Post Number: 302 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:09 am: | |
As found on http://www.schostak.com |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1964 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:12 am: | |
I'm hoping this has nothing to do with the one on 8 Mile and Woodward (I mean in terms of them relocating the whole project). It's not a bad preliminary concept though. |
Matt Member Username: Matt
Post Number: 1197 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:12 am: | |
What an inspiring design and use of land. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 1436 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:13 am: | |
No, this is Gateway Plaza, not the development on 8 Mile and Woodward. |
Chris_rohn Member Username: Chris_rohn
Post Number: 303 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:13 am: | |
Looks like they gave up on a mixed-use project for that site. I'm a bit disappointed. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 1243 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:14 am: | |
That appears to be an Inifiniti G front and center... don't they know this is Detroit? ETA: Well not really center, more like left. (Message edited by iheartthed on July 31, 2007) |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 929 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:19 am: | |
all those grand plans reduced to a health club???? |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 2339 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:20 am: | |
All these years, all the plans submitted and rejected and we're getting...LA Fitness?????? |
Novine Member Username: Novine
Post Number: 8 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:21 am: | |
"What an inspiring design and use of land." I hope this is sarcasm. What a complete waste of some of the most valuable real estate in RO or SE Michigan for that matter. |
Danindc Member Username: Danindc
Post Number: 2919 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:21 am: | |
What an inspiring gateway! It says, "Plenty of free parking here"! Absolutely terrible layout with respect to Woodward and Washington Avenues. You wouldn't think either was a very important street. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1592 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:22 am: | |
But it's not just an LA Fitness... it's a *ginormous* LA Fitness with an acre of parking. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 2340 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:24 am: | |
Excellent. Will make the traffic clusterfuck all worthwhile. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 930 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:26 am: | |
All L.A. Fitness centers look alike. There is one going up at Maple/Telegraph and another in Troy. Don't these people know we are out of shape and like it that way? |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1593 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:27 am: | |
Which is why I never get off 696 at Woodward to begin with... |
Valkyrias Member Username: Valkyrias
Post Number: 470 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:12 pm: | |
yes, gotta love the clusterfuck over there...now it will soon become an uber clusterfuck. they really could have had some kind of nice park over there, too... |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 575 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:36 pm: | |
They are reacting to the reality of the situation. The kind of mixed use development many of us would prefer to see on that site only makes sense in a functioning urban environment, which southeast Oakland County is not. If you want to see the kind of density and mixed use that some of us refer to as "transit oriented development", you have to first have decent transit. Since we don't, we will get here where we get everywhere: a stand-alone single-use facility surrounded by a moat of parking. This is what we have chosen for our region. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1578 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:39 pm: | |
Aahhh--the geography (and architecture) of nowhere in particular. They must not have been able to attract: Subway Starbucks Radio Shack Baskin Robins Smoker's outlet UPS store Baja Fresh Wireless toys Jackson-Hewitt tax Kinko's Do they need that many parking spaces with all of the housing nearby? |
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch
Post Number: 992 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:42 pm: | |
That site would have made a good transit station. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 1438 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:42 pm: | |
Notice the redevelopment plans for Wonderland are also on here. http://www.schostak.com/portfo lio/wonderland_village.html |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1753 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:42 pm: | |
hahahahahahhahahahahah! |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 1719 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:48 pm: | |
nice...that plot of land has been vacant for far too long |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 1721 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:52 pm: | |
"Notice the redevelopment plans for Wonderland are also on here." 75% of the actual buildings for the Wonderland Village site are already up...I'd say just driving by would give you a better idea what this one will look like than simply looking at a rendering |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 2222 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:53 pm: | |
For such a high profile corner, that's a really disappointing and dumb project. Has this design been approved by the city? |
Dannaroo Member Username: Dannaroo
Post Number: 102 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:57 pm: | |
I hate to sound like an echo of everybody else on here, but damn that's a lot of parking! And BVos, there has not yet been a final site plan approved. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9667 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:59 pm: | |
That is a great design ... to poop on. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 2346 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:01 pm: | |
They've been promising to build on that site since I moved here in 1994. We'll see. |
Novine Member Username: Novine
Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:11 pm: | |
"They are reacting to the reality of the situation. The kind of mixed use development many of us would prefer to see on that site only makes sense in a functioning urban environment, which southeast Oakland County is not." Come on - drive up Main Street and see buildings with retail on the first floor and residential and/or office on the second and above. |
Rrl Member Username: Rrl
Post Number: 870 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:18 pm: | |
What a completely uninspired design and utilization of the site. Blech! |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 1245 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:19 pm: | |
Well... I mean, it is at 696 and Woodward. What else could they put there without being supported by a sea of parking? I agree that it would have been a perfect place for a transit center (maybe a commuter rail station), but I guess first you'd need a transit system, no? Drive your fat butt right up to the door of the gym fitness center, walk on the treadmill for 10 minutes, hop back in your car and speed down Woodward to the nearest McDonald's, Arby's, Wendy's or Burger King. Talk about efficiecy! |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 576 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:26 pm: | |
Novine, all of the buildings you mention on Main Street were built in the very distant past. Royal Oak used to have light rail, you may know. I don't know of any building of that type built in that area in the past thirty years. New developments tend to look, in a region such as ours, like this one. I'm not saying I like it; I don't, I'm just saying developers are realistic. |