  Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2007 |
Ford recalling 3.6 million vehicles By KEN THOMAS Associated Press Writer Watch Related Video Ford Recalling 3.6 Million Vehicles Advertisement Multimedia The Cars That Made Chrysler Famous Latest News Ford recalling 3.6 million vehicles GM reports 2Q profit of $891 million Ford posts profit, warns about future Buy AP Photo Reprints WASHINGTON (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday it is recalling 3.6 million passenger cars, trucks, sport utility vehicles and vans to address concerns about a cruise control switch that has led to previous recalls based on reports of fires. Ford said the recall covered more than a dozen vehicle models built from 1992-2004. The company said it was responding to concerns from owners about the safety of their cars and questions about the speed control deactivation switch in the vehicles that is powered at all times. The Dearborn, Mich.-based automaker previously had recalled nearly 6 million vehicles beginning in January 2005 because of engine fires linked to the cruise control systems in trucks, SUVs and vans. "Customers remain concerned about the long-term durability of the speed control system and about the safety of their vehicles," said Ford spokesman Dan Jarvis. | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1602 Registered: 11-2003 |
I always maintain I'd rather have a recall and get it fixed than sweep it under the rug. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 203 Registered: 02-2007 |
They're doing something responsible and smart for a change. They are confronting a potential problem head on instead of gambling it will just go away. And risk being further dragged through the mud by the media. These switch installs go all the way back to 92. Damage is done.. Whats better? Recall and repair, showing the customers that you are on top of it or risk 3.6 million potential fires and lawsuits? The truly bad thing about these component failures, for their part its a supplier failure, but they'll eat it because someone bought off on it. For me as a consumer, if I buy a product and it fails. That doesn't bother me, how the manufacturer handles it is what I'm concerned about. Ford is handling this right. (Message edited by sstashmoo on August 04, 2007) | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 1199 Registered: 02-2006 |
I'm trying to think of how my cruise control works. And then I'm trying to think of how it could possibly catch fire. And I'm drawing a blank. | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 156 Registered: 01-2007 |
The wiring can catch fire. Ford seems to have crappy wiring. I've seen a lot of them with brake lights out. As long as the CHMSL still burns a bulb, the driver has no clue other than to be OBSERVANT(?) And it also may not be a supplier failure. It could be Ford, or Visteon when they owned the parts subsidiary. Eventually what they (the supplier and auto co.) will do is develop a chargeback ratio. Let's say 80/20 for the sake of argument. The auto company will charge the cost of warranty repairs back to the supplier at that ratio. We used to call it "vendor recovery" in the truck business. But that was 10 years ago that we did that. I have no idea what GM does now. (BTW. People who put those decorative covers over their tailights/brakelights, really piss me off. If I rear-end you, it's your goddamned fault for covering them up!) | ||
Wazootyman Member Username: Wazootyman Post Number: 237 Registered: 02-2006 |
It's a supplier issue. The supplier may ultimately pay for the recall, but Ford will take the hit in their image. "...in the vehicles that is powered at all times." Powered at all times circuits are now STRONGLY discouraged by Ford. I'm not sure what the policy has been in the past. I can tell you that as a supplier, you can engineer and design the hell out of something, only to find out years later that one of YOUR suppliers' products was inferior. Or, that some very unlikely scenario occurs and causes a failure that you would have never predicted. Automotive engineering is probably the most complicated product engineering there is - short of Aerospace. Ford's electronic body modules review program is very strict now, and this failure may have slipped in before a lot of modern policy was in place. Their electrical reliability went from worst in the industry to beating Toyota last year. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 9805 Registered: 12-2003 |
I thought Yazaki did most of Ford's wire harnesses in that time period...they certainly did a bunch of 'em. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 1149 Registered: 11-2003 |
Ask Mitsubishi how they handle recalls. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 2054 Registered: 02-2007 |
Well as long as none of you have the cars, then does it matter? All Auto companies have some type of recall, even if it's Foreign Companies. (and he waits for someone to argue about Ford's past recalls) | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 1201 Registered: 02-2006 |
I may have one of the cars, don't know yet, since they weren't named. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 2058 Registered: 02-2007 |
Actually, there was a list with the Article, but whoever started this thread didn't post it. I know people with the recall as well. I will say this, chances are if your ford van, truck or car was made between the years of 1992-2004, it will be on the recall list. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 2059 Registered: 02-2007 |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 70803/ap_on_bi_ge/ford_recall (the rest of the article) "He said the automaker had received "a few reports of fires" in Ford Crown Victoria passenger cars prior to the recall. He did not have a precise number. The recall involves the following vehicles: 1998-2002 Ford Ranger, 1992-1997 Lincoln Town Car, 1992-1997 Ford Crown Victoria, 1992-1997 Mercury Grand Marquis, 1993-1998 Lincoln Mark VIII, 1993-1995 Taurus SHO, 1999-2001 Ford Explorer and Mercury Mountaineer. Also covered are the 2001-2002 Ford Explorer Sport, 2001-2002 Ford Explorer Sport Trac, 1992-1993 E150-350 vans, 1997-2002 E150-350 vans, 1993 Ford F-Series pickups, 1993 Ford Bronco, 1994 Mercury Capri, 2003-2004 Ford F-150 Lightning, and 1995-2002 Ford F53 motor homes. An additional 177,000 vehicles in Canada, Mexico and Europe are covered by the recall. Jarvis said there have been no deaths, injuries or accidents associated with the recall. It was Ford's sixth recall, involving a total of more than 10.4 million vehicles, conducted since 1999 because of problems with the speed control system, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The nation's largest single recall involved 7.9 million Ford vehicles in 1996 to replace an ignition switch. Texas Instruments Inc. supplied the speed control switch in all of the vehicles covered under Friday's announcement, Ford said. A TI spokeswoman could not immediately comment. Owners will begin receiving recall notices on Aug. 13. Jarvis said the parts for passenger cars would not be available until early October. In the meantime, owners can take their vehicle to a dealer to have their cruise control deactivated until the parts arrive. The parts are available for trucks, Jarvis said. Dealers will install a fused wiring harness into the speed control electrical system or replace the deactivation switch if its found to be leaking. Owners with questions about the recall can contact Ford at (888) 222-2751." (Message edited by Urbanize on August 04, 2007) | ||
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248 Post Number: 797 Registered: 10-2006 |
I agree that Ford is handling it right. Stuff happens. What matters to me is the integrity of the company to fix the problem. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 2845 Registered: 12-2005 |
I wonder why Mustang isn't on that list. It must not use the same part? | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 1204 Registered: 02-2006 |
There are many cars not on that list. Myself or my family have owned 4 Fords (Escort, Focus, Taurus, and Escape) from within that date range, and none of them are on the list. | ||
Meaghansdad Member Username: Meaghansdad Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2007 |
I currently drive a 94 Grand Marquis.I'm pleased with the handling, gas mileage, etc. I've had plans to keep it a while, so I'm happy that they've decided on a recall. This will allow me to get it into a dealership and repair some of the smaller things while having this repair made. |
