Ddaydave Member Username: Ddaydave
Post Number: 494 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:47 am: | |
Anyone else see this Friday night ?? I drove from ferndale to downtown down woodward about 11:00 o'clock Friday night and saw 5 or 6 groups of what looked like teenage white kids in circles praying from 7 mile to just about the new center area . I drive this all the time and this kids were definitely not from these areas I figure they were praying to help the hookers and stuff like that |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 1437 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:57 am: | |
Sounds like what was needed. |
Hudkina Member Username: Hudkina
Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:15 pm: | |
I've seen them in Hart Plaza before... |
Mpow Member Username: Mpow
Post Number: 269 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:31 pm: | |
does anyone have a link to their program? |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 9817 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 1:03 pm: | |
curious. cool. I'm usually in some prayer state when I'm considering the sculptures and statues and memorials at Hart Plaza and in front of the CAY building. I wonder how their notes on the Hart Plaza compare to mine. I see nothing but hope...always struggle, but it works out our way. Freedom. |
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 315 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 1:43 pm: | |
A lot of people start praying when they cross Eight Mile. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 1360 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 2:51 pm: | |
...perhaps, but they don't get out of their cars to stop and do it. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 6322 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 5:41 pm: | |
That's a great ideal for those white kids Christians. Going out to the ghettohoods of Detroit in the middle of the night and pray for the DEAD (C)KRAK HEADS, pimps, prostitutes, po'folks, schizoblacks and mutants. |
Lizaanne Member Username: Lizaanne
Post Number: 106 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 5:45 pm: | |
The dead need our prayers just as much as the living. I think it's a wonderful thing - I wonder what their motivation was. Could they possibly been praying in front of abortion clinics?? ~Liza |
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city
Post Number: 344 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 6:06 pm: | |
I have never seen them. Why do they exclude people of color in their prayer groups? |
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 71 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 6:36 pm: | |
"Why do they exclude people of color in their prayer groups?" Jumping to conclusions are we? We don't know who they are yet or what theyre doing, so we can't assume theyre excluding anyone. Maybe no one of color volunteered. I've seen MANY church/religious group/event gathering that contained ZERO white people so i don't see where the relevance of this question even is. Even so, Im going to be labeled a racist just for counterbalancing this inquiry. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1595 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 8:47 pm: | |
call the ACLU stat! |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 1769 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 8:50 pm: | |
"Why do they exclude people of color in their prayer groups?" Who knows. Could just be that people of color tend not to live in the suburbs. While we're on the subject, why do you Detroiters exclude white people from your city council? Are you racist? Do you just not value diversity that much? (Message edited by thejesus on August 05, 2007) |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 836 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 9:31 pm: | |
pleaseeeeeeeeeee.... who knows why they were there; but my bet is that the prayers that were color blind.... |
Revaldullton Member Username: Revaldullton
Post Number: 619 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 9:43 pm: | |
boy oh boy, asshole racists all over this forum. Get over white people already, the only ones excluding "people of color" are people of color No wonder Detroit has gone to shit. the good rev |
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 742 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 9:46 pm: | |
Amen. |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 840 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 10:15 pm: | |
for peace and cooperation on a Sunday night... |
Classico Member Username: Classico
Post Number: 45 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:37 pm: | |
Good grief, am I the only one who detected Rockets sarcasm. That was good for a laugh. |
Michigan Member Username: Michigan
Post Number: 901 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:38 pm: | |
Rocket_city, maybe for the same reason groups of black youths committing crimes on Woodward exclude white kids from their groups . |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 1301 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:52 pm: | |
While we're on the subject, why do you Detroiters exclude white people from your city council? Are you racist? Do you just not value diversity that much? Okay, so I'm gonna point out the white person on Detroit's city council, then I want you to go point out the black person on Livonia's. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 1302 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:59 pm: | |
Sheila Cockrel:
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Meaghansdad Member Username: Meaghansdad
Post Number: 31 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:59 pm: | |
EXACTLY!! |
Saintme Member Username: Saintme
Post Number: 51 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 2:30 pm: | |
For the love of Christ, why was race even brought up? (rhetorical question btw, please DO NOT answer this or I'll puke) Nobody so far has commented on who these people were or how the event came about, just a lot of the usual ASSumptions. I'm way more interested in the fact that they were young people. Does anyone have any information on the organizers of the prayer group being discussed? |
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan
Post Number: 769 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 2:35 pm: | |
quote:Okay, so I'm gonna point out the white person on Detroit's city council, then I want you to go point out the black person on Livonia's. Apples and oranges, Livonia is less than 1% black whereas Detroit is 12.26% white. When Livonia is 12% black and doesn't have a black councilmember, then you might have a point. How many Native Americans are serving on Detroit's City Council? Why, Detroit must be racist against Native Americans! Or maybe it could be that there simply aren't many Native Americans living in Detroit and that's why there aren't any on the City Council. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 1305 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 2:38 pm: | |
"When Livonia is 12% black and doesn't have a black councilmember, then you might have a point." Which begs the bigger question... Why is Livonia so damn white to begin with? |
Gogo Member Username: Gogo
Post Number: 1394 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 2:55 pm: | |
While we're on the subject, why do you Detroiters exclude white people from your city council? Are you racist? Do you just not value diversity that much? Compared to... Livonia's City Council Birmingham's City Council Roseville City Council Troy City Council Sterling Heights City Council Ferndale's City Council Royal Oak's City Council If the racial make up of a city's City Council is any indication of how much they value diversity, then Detroit value's diversity just as much as Ann Arbor... Ann Arbor's City Council |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9714 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 2:59 pm: | |
quote:"When Livonia is 12% black and doesn't have a black councilmember, then you might have a point." Which begs the bigger question... Why is Livonia so damn white to begin with? Because a large population in Livonia like it that way |
Michigan Member Username: Michigan
Post Number: 905 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 3:14 pm: | |
Does any one know who the kids were? Who cares about the damn city council! |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9718 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 3:15 pm: | |
Good point. No idea. |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 209 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 3:25 pm: | |
Gannon prays at the memorial in Hart Plaza? Me too. But I've never seen anyone else around the Organized Labor monument except for bums copping a sit and skateboarders abusing the marble. Let those kids pray. |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 9820 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:02 pm: | |
Heya Craig, Read those flagstones on the Labor monument backwards from the inside of the spiral...you can see how the progress forged by unions in the last hundred years is quickly being UNdone by the current establishment these past ten. It is pretty telling, think I'm going to do a documentary on it. |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 436 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:34 pm: | |
They may have come from that huge church in Highland park. They are clearly wasting their time. |
Kslice Member Username: Kslice
Post Number: 131 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:39 pm: | |
Kids playing (and not fighting) on woodward at 11 at night is a good sign in my book, no matter what their race! |
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city
Post Number: 346 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:45 pm: | |
Wow, sorry to have sparked a storm. I asked not because I "jumped" to conclusion, rather because the original poster identified it as such. No wonder you always hear people in Greater Detroit saying, "we need to talk about race more". They probably say this because, when race is discussed in an open and honest manner, people pout and get defensive, and blow what could be a productive and effective discussion way out of proportion. Sorry, I'll leave it alone. |
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313
Post Number: 437 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:53 pm: | |
A lot of people start praying when they cross Eight Mile. LOL <313> |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 438 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:58 pm: | |
They should crowd into a peep show booth in Highland park. It is much more exciting than praying. How can white kids praying affect the crushing poverty-ignorance-immaturity-l ack of fair and reasonable employment opportunities? |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 1369 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 7:28 pm: | |
Maybe while praying a revelation will come to them and they will realize that Detroit isn't that bad after all and spend more of their time in the CoD. |
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl
Post Number: 387 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:12 pm: | |
I've seen a lot of white people coming and going from that church in Highland Park that used to be an X-rated movie theater. But I've also seen black people there too, so if the people on Woodward were all white it was probably a suburban prayer group. As far as the race issue goes, I've read that America's churches are more segregated than anything else in this country. I don't see this as an indication of overt racism on the part of most churches. I think it's just that black folks and white folks generally prefer different styles of worship. |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 2575 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:23 pm: | |
They could be green and purple for all I care. They're more likely to do good than damage. If just the extra presence on the streets prevents something bad it's worthwhile. Heck, next time you might even see an elderly person get helped across the street. |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:45 pm: | |
i guess its better than breaking windows |