Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9737 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:29 pm: | |
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20070806/BUSINES S/70806035/1003
quote:More than 5,000 people applied for 300 new jobs at the Wal-Mart Supercenter that opens Wednesday in Livonia. Methinks a big chunk of the applicants are those lazy Detroiters we always heara about. Those lazy bums that just don't want to work and have access to all the jobs in the world. |
Buyamerican Member Username: Buyamerican
Post Number: 121 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:35 pm: | |
I wonder how many Detroiters actually got the jobs. Sarcasm doesn't solve a thing. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 2153 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:39 pm: | |
The Warren Wal-Mart is of course Proof A. "Methinks a big chunk of the applicants are those lazy Detroiters we always heara about. Those lazy bums that just don't want to work and have access to all the jobs in the world." However, MAJOR stereotype. They could be the lazy suburbanites who just want to bitch about Detroiters coming out there to work and shop |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 4054 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:45 pm: | |
I'm willing to bet it was just a lot of good people who simply wanted a job. My heart goes out to all of them. It must to be dispiriting to try to get a relatively low paying job and have so much competition show up. Good luck to them all. |
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 4572 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:46 pm: | |
Urb....he was being sarcastic due to the rise in the forums troll population.... |
Meaghansdad Member Username: Meaghansdad
Post Number: 33 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:47 pm: | |
Here's those lazy negras, always wantun ta com ta are naberhuud! |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3639 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:48 pm: | |
The "official" unemployment figure erroneously emitted by the BLS generally holds around 175,000. There could easily be another 100,000 of discouraged job seekers who generally stopped looking or those working for peanuts but are way underemployed. So, the fact of having 5000 fill out applications just points out how dire the unemployment is in metro Detroit. Besides, I doubt the demographics of those 5000 showed overwhelmingly that they came from Detroit. Just a hunch. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 2154 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:48 pm: | |
I was being sarcastic as well, but we know how hard it is to read over the net
(Message edited by urbanize on August 06, 2007) |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 1536 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:51 pm: | |
now if only livonia would wise up and add the smart bus to the ballot......oh wait for a minute i thought i was trainman |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9742 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:58 pm: | |
quote:I wonder how many Detroiters actually got the jobs. Sarcasm doesn't solve a thing. Actually it wasn't sarcastic. You even stated on a previous thread that there are jobs but the thug, criminal Detroit youth don't want them. This certainly illustrates the demand for the jobs are there but the jobs simply don't exist. It is easy to dismiss people as lazy thugs until you see and know some that would do anything for an honest days pay for an honest days work. You can dismiss them by saying the jobs exist - this article shows how wrong you are. It is even more poignant that it is 5000 people showing up for 200 jobs at a company that notoriously pays low. Laze, thugs my back side. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 2157 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:01 am: | |
^^^Yeah, mines wasn't either to be truthful. I meant what I said, I just wanted to satisfy the cause. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9743 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:04 am: | |
LY - Do you know the criteria for unemployment numbers. Is it only based upon the people that file for unemployment or are actively seeking jobs. It certainly seems that the number will always be skewed much lower but I don't know how the numbers are gathered. The underemployed is a good point that is often overlooked. |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 9190 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:11 am: | |
The only lazy anybodies were those who need a job but didn't bother to show up for these bonafide jobs. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9747 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:14 am: | |
quote:The only lazy anybodies were those who need a job but didn't bother to show up for these bonafide jobs. I am in 100% agreement with Karl. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 2159 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:16 am: | |
Same here Karl. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3640 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:26 am: | |
The BLS figures must be pure nonsense in Michigan when considering that many of the "unemployed" (err... not unemployed according to the BLS) had their benefits terminated years ago. Many leave the state. Some (an unemployed spouse, perhaps, just stops looking after a while. I know of engineers locally in their mid forties who haven't had any decent work for three years or more and even longer for some others. The unemployed like that are not considered as unemployed in the BLS figures. The BLS simply takes their figures from the easy-to-ascertain sources--those reported by the states who receive unemployment for 26 weeks or so. However, many are still without jobs or work after those two seasons are over. |
Track75 Member Username: Track75
Post Number: 2562 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:29 am: | |
quote:The BLS figures must be pure nonsense in Michigan when considering that many of the "unemployed" (err... not unemployed according to the BLS) had their benefits terminated... The unemployed like that are not considered as unemployed in the BLS figures. The BLS simply takes their figures from the easy-to-ascertain sources--those reported by the states who receive unemployment for 26 weeks or so. Not true. Not at all. The BLS uses a survey instrument called the Current Population Survey. From the horse's mouth:
quote:Where do the statistics come from? Because unemployment insurance records, which many people think are the source of total unemployment data, relate only to persons who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to actually count every unemployed person each month, the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940 when it began as a Work Projects Administration project. It has been expanded and modified several times since then. As explained later, the CPS estimates, beginning in 1994, reflect the results of a major redesign of the survey. http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_faq .htm |
Blksoul_x Member Username: Blksoul_x
Post Number: 46 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:26 pm: | |
I wonder about the ones that did show up with names on the application like, Tawanna, Rasheed, Temieka, Juaneka, Kareem, Ebony, Rashad, Javonne, etc....as opposed to Brad, Jason, Kristie, Laurie, Hector, Juan, Jesus etc.__go figure! blksoul-atcha! |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 9226 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 1:00 am: | |
It depends, Blksoul - could they talk? |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3649 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:54 am: | |
More horse's mouth:
quote:Is there a measure of underemployment? Because of the difficulty of developing an objective set of criteria which could be readily used in a monthly household survey, no official government statistics are available on the total number of persons who might be viewed as underemployed. Even if many or most could be identified, it would still be difficult to quantify the loss to the economy of such underemployment. Just because the BLS changed its questionnaire 13 years ago doesn't mean that it tracks unemployment much better. I still hang onto my bias that the public sector is less competent than the private sector, and any study still needs to be adequately drafted and conducted. If the competency of our neighborhood's mailmen ( and women) are representative of the public sector, in general, we're doomed! |
Newport1128 Member Username: Newport1128
Post Number: 91 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:12 am: | |
C'mon people, there are people of all races who are "lazy thugs" and people of all races (the majority) who are honest and hardworking. Let's hope the latter are the ones who got the WalMart jobs. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 1788 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:25 am: | |
"The only lazy anybodies were those who need a job but didn't bother to show up for these bonafide jobs." Yeah, but simply showing up is the easy part. You need to keep that job once you've got it. Getting pissed off at your boss for asking you to do something then running out the door knocking a bunch of shit over and screaming, "Where's my f-cking check?" puts you back in the lazy deadbeat category IMHO... |
Ericdetfan Member Username: Ericdetfan
Post Number: 131 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:49 pm: | |
I forgot that today was their grand opening and went there to check it out and to buy a shower curtain. It took me 10 minutes just to get into the parking lot and another 10 to find a parking spot, the entire parking lot was jam-packed. I have never seen that many ppl shopping at one place in my life. All the registers were open and I still waited in line for a good 20 minutes...Leaving was the hard part... I spent 35 minutes just trying to leave the parking lot..They actually had to have a livonia cop directing traffic ( and leading ppl in directions that they did not want to go, lol).. I think I will wait a few weeks to go there again; by then things should be fairly normal. |
Gmich99 Member Username: Gmich99
Post Number: 225 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:52 pm: | |
Everyday low low prices for unemployed people, YAY! |