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Username: Quozl
Post Number: 1336
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:39 pm: |    |
Thanks Waxx, I appreciate you posting the photo links.
Don't forget my neighborhood remix, the Historic Berry Subdivision. We currently have four houses for sale in the neighborhood that are all reasonably priced. |
Izzadore
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Username: Izzadore
Post Number: 66
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 3:21 pm: | |
I stopped over there a few years ago, before they broke ground on those homes. They're not bad, but they do remind me of a run-of-the-mill 'subdivision in the city.' I've always wondered why they didn't try to market these residences to college students as Wayne is really a bus ride away... |
Danny
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Username: Danny
Post Number: 6403
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 3:22 pm: | |
YAY GENTRIFICATION!
Low-income families don't like it. "Nouveau Riche" folks like it. Woodbridge Estates is one of the first start as Detroit rises from its ghetto grave. I feel really sorry for the low-income welfare folks being put out from a "PREMIER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY".
The last part of The Jeffrey projects has been fenced off and the windows had been stripped away. Now we just wait from the developer comes, build some McMansions, supercondos and megalofts and the rich folks will roll on in. The inner city of Detroit will not be a big black and blighted ghetto anymore by the next 50 years. |
Treelock
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Username: Treelock
Post Number: 213
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 4:15 pm: | |
While some of the Woodbridge Estates single-family homes look like they were transplanted from Troy, I do applaud the row-house condo look, the fact they finally opened up the streets to conform with the local grid pattern and, not least, the decision to landscape with ginkgo trees, extending the theme from Lincoln further east.
Overall, the development is a benefit to the hood.
I once cleared trash and debris from the then-vacant field at Canfield and Trumbull during a neighborhood cleanup event. Some guy came out and was so happy with us, he wanted to buy us something for our troubles. |
Mackcreative
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Username: Mackcreative
Post Number: 96
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 5:27 pm: | |
Canfield and Trumbull is not hood.
Existing single family homes in nice neighborhood?
Woodbridge Historic District. |
Masterblaster
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Username: Masterblaster
Post Number: 77
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 7:07 pm: | |
UPSCALE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING!!!
Don't forget the University District, Sherwood Forest, and Green Acres!!! As well as sections of West Outer Drive, and the Detroit Golf Club Estates
Boston-Edison and Virginia Park and Oakman Boulevard....maybe in a couple of years |
Mackcreative
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Username: Mackcreative
Post Number: 97
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 10:13 pm: | |
I know plenty of upscale single family homes in Woodbridge HISTORIC district. |
Buddyinrichmond
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Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 208
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:46 pm: | |
Just let it go... |
Russix
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Username: Russix
Post Number: 43
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 2:34 am: | |
When the first section of multi-family homes went up on canfield and lodge, a moderate storm blew a large amount of siding off them. I'm really curious(although not hoping) what this neighborhood would look like after a major strom or tornado cut through it. The comparison of century old brick and hardwood against composite woods and siding should be interesting. |
Queensfinest
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Username: Queensfinest
Post Number: 125
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 2:50 am: | |
1.) 200,000 for a home is next to nothing in any other major or mid-sized American city.
2.) Here in NYC we have 1-2 million dollar condos that are selling out in days on the same block with section 8 housing. Sometimes next-door. This is happening not only in Manhattan and the desirable parts of Brooklyn, but now in LIC and other sections of Queens.
Will Michiganians ever realize that even in "nice" suburbs or the "best parts" in the CBD that the prices they pay for housing are dirt cheap compared to anywhere else?
Even with the whole sup-prime mortgage fiasco that's going on now, the expected housing crisis, and possible recession in the u.s., does anyone in Michigan realize how little they've had to pay to own a home there compared to the rest of the country? |
Slows
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Username: Slows
Post Number: 139
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:28 am: | |
Nope. We're all stupid. Especially compared to all the people in New York. |
Oldoak
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Username: Oldoak
Post Number: 18
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 2:56 pm: | |
Comparatively speaking, yes the prices are much lower than other cities. People on this forum seem to only want to compare Detroit to its own suburbs on many fronts.
What needs to be pointed out is the lack of steady work and the low wages offered compared to other cities, making even bargain prices seem out of touch. |
Bussey
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Username: Bussey
Post Number: 599
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 6:44 pm: | |
Comparing Detroit to New York is like comparing Toledo to Chicago.....its just not right! |
Detroitrise
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Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 135
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 7:13 pm: | |
Detroit is becoming increasing uncomparable. Even Cleveland, Philly, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, etc. are better off than Detroit. Cleveland realized they needed a knit-tight city center years ago and now compare it to Detroit's. Not to mention that there region isn't as screwy as ours. Philly is already huge and well devloped (good high rise and housing density). |
Bussey
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Username: Bussey
Post Number: 600
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 7:43 pm: | |
I still like the Gary Indiana comparison.
But seriously, on a city size scale, a fair comparison is Pittsburgh or Cleveland. And those comparisons are not in our favor. |
Detroitrise
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Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 137
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 8:01 pm: | |
I don't like the Gary Comparison, because it's also being absorbed by Chicago's Sprawling region. Not to mention that it's only half the size of Detroit (city itself). We're still a fairly big city comparable to Chicago as we're still up there in 2nd place for the Midwest hub (although Indy is catching up). Our weather is nearly identical. In terms of geography, we have some of the best street grids in America (Chicago although beats our by far). Not to mention we haev some of the best water systems in America. Economically, we're not comparable. |
Detroitrise
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Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 138
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 8:06 pm: | |
Really, us and Indianapolis have become very comparable. Both of our cities are big Entertainment destinations. We both don't have a decent Mass Transit system. It's also considered a Rust Belt City.
On the other hand, they're still growing and we're still shrinking. |
321brian
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Username: 321brian
Post Number: 463
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 11:02 pm: | |
I'm staying out of this one.
I got beat up all over the for saying the Willys Overland lofts were too expensive.
By the way. These are too. |
Drjeff
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Username: Drjeff
Post Number: 12
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 3:40 pm: | |
Bussey:
I'm not sure how you can compare Cleveland and Detroit. Cleveland isn't even the biggest city in Ohio. I think Pittsburgh is considerably smaller than Detroit as well. |
Dougw
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Post Number: 1923
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 4:12 pm: | |
Philadelphia is probably more comparable overall to Detroit than any other U.S. city. They're a little bit similar in character, both having a working-class population, both having declined for some time. But most importantly, they're pretty close in size. It's kind of ridiculous to seriously compare Gary (a city 1/10th the size) with Detroit.
The only other contender is Cleveland. |
Milwaukee
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Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 1341
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 2:48 pm: | |
"Philadelphia is probably more comparable overall to Detroit than any other U.S. city"
No way in hell. Have you been to Philadelphia? That statement really makes me question weather you have or not. Philadelphia is twice the size with a fraction of the blight that has consumed Detroit. Philadelphia is a thriving city that is rich with business and residents. Philadelphia has dozens of top tier universities, crowded middle class neighborhoods, and a fast growing skyline.
Gary is a miniture Detroit. There are only a few blocks in Gary as in Detroit where an asskicking would not be delivered to any outsider. Cleveland is in no where near as bad a shape as Detroit.
Detroit came so close to dying that the city needed to act. They need stuff like Brush Park and Woodbridge to succeed. The renovation of these areas was not started by people who wanted to move downtown it was started by the government. Finally some business and some people decided to go along. The changes seen in Detroit in the last ten years are unimpressive to say the least by comparison to other "rust belt" cities.
Detroit has been redeveloping itself the wrong way. The city is using casinos, stadiums, and themed parking structures as a way to save itself. Good luck with that strategy. |
Bobj
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Username: Bobj
Post Number: 2585
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 2:56 pm: | |
What would be the right strategy?? |
Milwaukee
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Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 1342
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 2:59 pm: | |
Improve the schools, cut down crime, improve the parks. Make middle class families want to be in the city, sending their kids to city schools, spending money in their city neighborhoods, rather than brining them down for a few hours every couple months. |
Milwaukee
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Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 1343
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:01 pm: | |
I don't claim this is an easy or quick solution, its just the one that needs to be instituted in order to actually save the city. If you don't bring back families and stop the population loss, then the city will continue to die. |
Bobj
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Username: Bobj
Post Number: 2589
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:02 pm: | |
Agreed, all great things that need to happen, but isn't this a chicken and egg discussion?? It would be wonderful if you could do all at the same time.
I think some are hoping for an improved downtown that spurs on more neighborhood development, some of which has happened.
The schools, well that is another story. |
Milwaukee
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Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 1344
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:13 pm: | |
I get what you're saying. I feel that city and state money could have been better spent then on stadiums or on attracting casino's to the city. Those are positive developments for the city in the short term, but I think long term, the money could have been spent on more police officers or better trained teachers.
You're very right about that. A great city needs to have a strong center. It is vital that downtown Detroit becomes a stable center for the city and the region. I don't think that stadiums or casinos provide the stability the city needs. Compuware and the Book Cadillac are more important projects. Those are the kind of things downtown needs in order to get better. I believe that it is far more important to attract private enterprise to do the physical renovation of the city. The city should focus on improving what it actually has control over (ie. schools, parks, police). |
Milwaukee
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Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 1345
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:16 pm: | |
I guess back to the Woodbridge development, I think it is a positive development for the city, but just southwest of all the new construction sits a beautiful old neighborhood filled with great old homes. Those seem to be pretty run down right now. I don't like the focus on the new construction. What makes Woodbridge any different from some new exurb? There seems to be a lack of trees and the neighborhood kind of breaks away from the traditional grid system. Its like a puzzle piece that just doesn't fit. |
Detroit_stylin
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Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 5208
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:16 pm: | |
wtf? who let this dude back in... |
Milwaukee
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Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 1346
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:18 pm: | |
1. I was never blocked
2. I suggest you look in Non-Detroit issues. Look for the "Sorry everyone" thread. If you're not satisfied with that, then I don't really give a shit. Just ignore me. |
Iheartthed
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Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 1932
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:29 pm: | |
wtf? who let this dude back in...
LOL. |
Mackcreative
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Username: Mackcreative
Post Number: 110
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 8:01 pm: | |
"just southwest of all the new construction sits a beautiful old neighborhood filled with great old homes. Those seem to be pretty run down right now"
Are you saying Woodbridge (the neighborhood not the development) is run down? Check Commonwealth or Avery on any weekend and you will see a flurry of fixing-up and maintaining activity. I am biased because I live there, it's not perfect--but it sure as heck isn't run-down. |
Mackinaw
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Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 3820
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 8:25 pm: | |
I agree, Milwaukee. |
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