  Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 2910 Registered: 06-2004 |
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20071011/NEWS05/ 710110436 quote:Las Vegas Sun article | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 1641 Registered: 03-2006 |
screw that, you want water? move here and drink up | ||
Defendbrooklyn Member Username: Defendbrooklyn Post Number: 505 Registered: 11-2005 |
Michigan needs to protect its resources...If we sell now then what? What kind of shape will we be in when we have no water left to seel. Also, how can we sell water when it's not all ours? | ||
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986 Post Number: 422 Registered: 01-2004 |
I agree....the easy solution is if you live in the desert create the appropriate landscape for a desert climate. If you want lush lawns and green gold courses, move up here. | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 985 Registered: 09-2005 |
Of course, the Great Lakes also fall under the jurisdiction of the International Joint Commission: http://www.ijc.org/en/home/mai n_accueil.htm | ||
Rrl Member Username: Rrl Post Number: 911 Registered: 12-2003 |
Somebody should tell Richardson that he can have all the Great Lakes water he wants, all he has to do is move to the Great Lakes basin. They chose to live in a desert. Deal with the lack of water or move. Not our problem to help them solve. | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 3669 Registered: 03-2006 |
This issue is worth going to war over. Screw Richardson and his nonsense. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 10470 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: I don't think I will ever agree with you more. The unfortunate truth is given the population migration the west will continue to gain population and have more influence in Washington while Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, etc will either stay stagnant or lose population and influence in Washington. Probably not an issue right now but it will be in the future. | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 3671 Registered: 03-2006 |
We need to protect ourselves in any way we can now to stop this. I couldn't hate Richardson more for saying this. This issue makes my blood boil. | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 2580 Registered: 10-2003 |
The problem is that Vegas has so many transplants from the East, and they all want to reproduce the lush lawns and golf courses that they had in their former homes. They even built a luxury subdivision there, Lake Las Vegas, with a large man-made lake. It's simply for looks, for aesthetics. Vegas has begun diverting water from northeast Nevada to slake its huge thirst. Note that there is no cap on growth in the Vegas area; that's not even a concern. Moreover, the casinos use tremendous amounts of water without a thought of rationing. In older desert communities like Reno and Tucson (even in Phoenix), many more residents seem to opt for xeriscape or desert-style landscaping with more rocks, sage, and cactus -- and less grass. Growth is managed better, too. | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 1944 Registered: 11-2003 |
Agreed, this is definitely a uniting issue for Michiganders... | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 3012 Registered: 10-2003 |
Those yahoos living in the middle of the desert need a nice blackout like we had for a couple of days. Then they'll be reminded they live in the middle of a god-forsaken wasteland, where mammals are not meant to exist in large numbers. No offense, Ray.  | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 987 Registered: 09-2005 |
As stated above by my reference to the IJC, the diversion of water from the Great Lakes is an international issue. It would not be as simple as Congress passing a law to allow such diversion. | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 3674 Registered: 03-2006 |
From what I have read, all provinces and states bordering the great lakes would have to approve any plans to divert water. I don't see that happening but a law sure couldn't hurt. Canada is unlikely to be for diverting water to the US desert, unless of course somebody gets bought off. | ||
Umcs Member Username: Umcs Post Number: 150 Registered: 06-2007 |
"This issue is worth going to war over. Screw Richardson and his nonsense." Agreed. This is short-sighted regionalism/tribalism at it's best and nonsense at its worst. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 2584 Registered: 12-2004 |
quote: It finally happened. There's actually an issue that PG and I are in perfect agreement on. Did the Earth just stop spinning? | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 2911 Registered: 06-2004 |
As if that would stop American politicians? One US government official was recently fired (it's being fought) for trying to enforce the buffer zone along the border http://www.kiplinger.com/apnew s/XmlStoryResult.php?storyid=4 15223 | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 3677 Registered: 03-2006 |
This peril of building stuff out in the desert was so predictable. I know some folks who live in Orange County and they are also using water diverted from the Colorado river, they have to water everything so it doesn't burn. Moronic, let them run dry. You want H20? Move to Michigan! | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 2581 Registered: 10-2003 |
I have a solution for the thirst of the West. Build a few large desalination plants off the coast of California using Pacific Ocean water, and pump the treated water inland to Vegas and other water-starved places. Sure it's costly, but folks want that year-round sunshine, so let 'em pay more for water. Residents can just figure it as part of the price of living in "paradise." | ||
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker Post Number: 1908 Registered: 04-2005 |
[insert a paraphrase of Sam Kinison's rant on world hunger here] | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 3678 Registered: 03-2006 |
quote: I will admit it, when I read about this I was so pissed that tears came to my eyes. It is one thing that these f*cking politicians don't give a damn about us, but now they want to pick over the corpse after we go down? No sir. quote: A better option to be sure. No great lakes water for the desert! (Message edited by perfectgentleman on October 11, 2007) | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 1284 Registered: 10-2003 |
wow; i think we may have finally found an issue that the entire forum can agree on! i agree; it's completely moronic. if you want to move to the desert, expect to live in the desert. don't expect to force people who haven't to provide for you. | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 988 Registered: 09-2005 |
megacities in the desert: holy unsustainable development, Batman! | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 2075 Registered: 01-2005 |
"Those yahoos living in the middle of the desert need a nice blackout like we had for a couple of days. Then they'll be reminded they live in the middle of a god-forsaken wasteland, where mammals are not meant to exist in large numbers. No offense, Ray. " Hee, hee! None taken. But my entire community in Anthem in Henderson has desert landscaping. Of our 1700 homes, there is not one blade of grass. The small shrubs and trees we have use drip irrigation. And we all love it. Back in Michigan, I was "one of you" with the manicured lawn and running around like an idiot twice a week with the damn lawnmower. I thought there had to be a better way, and I found it out here. Take your lawn care and jam it. We doan' NEED your steenkin' water. | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 1286 Registered: 10-2003 |
lol @ ray. i sure hope most desert dwellers are like you! | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 2584 Registered: 10-2003 |
When I lived in Nevada, people from Vegas were the only Nevadans I met who had the water-grab mindset. Most Renoites and folks from other parts of the state understand that water is scarce and a prized commodity. | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 1287 Registered: 10-2003 |
useless trivia for the day: the term that describes landscaping that is regional and sensitive to the environment is xeriscaping. -rsa (RockStArchitect) | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 2585 Registered: 10-2003 |
Right, RSA... see my post #2580, second paragraph. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 3013 Registered: 10-2003 |
Xeriscaping is great, it means a lot less work, and a lot less feeling bad because your plants died again. The way I usually pick plants for my yard is to walk around the neighborhood, see what other people have that seem to be thriving, and buy that. Hey, you'd swear I must have a green thumb! The Ron Pompeil method of landscaping. Set it....and forget it! | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 4291 Registered: 10-2004 |
Fortunately, we have a treaty or other R&R with Canada concerning the Great Lakes. Without that, I wouldn't trust any of the two major political parties concerning a water grab to the SW. Nor do I trust Granholm--mainly because she's a lying twit and probably already is eying a Cabinet slot with her Hillary buddy. (Message edited by LivernoisYard on October 11, 2007) |
