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Username: Viziondetroit
Post Number: 1275
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 2:40 am: |    |
"It was very difficult to sell that house while comparable homes located further away from the porn shop sold for more money."
I'm sure the porn shop was there before you bought the house right? You bought the house so what makes you think someone else won't? |
Jrvass
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Username: Jrvass
Post Number: 291
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 3:20 am: | |
If the price of gas keeps going up, the prospective buyers of your house will be {gasp!} porn shop clientele! |
Hpgrmln
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Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 254
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 7:25 am: | |
Porn consumers in Warren just need to look harder. You can still buy at least magazines at gas stations and independent party stores. Peddling porn in any form isn't going to dissapear completely from the city. |
Shiva
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 8:06 am: | |
It was the first house I ever bought. I purchased it in the seventies and no, the porn shop was there when I bought it. There was a vacant store front and the porn shop opened eight months after I moved in.
And here I thought they were going to open a candy store . . . |
6nois
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Post Number: 561
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 10:53 am: | |
Alot has changed since the seventies. Porn stores now make the majority of their money on DVD's, which are something that you generally need to be at home to watch. And people who can't get home with their product now doen't even need to get out of their home because of the internet, which was made for porn. You are equating a thirty year old experience with today, things change. |
Danny
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Post Number: 6759
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 10:59 am: | |
YAY!
Good-bye porn shop in South Warren business district. The pron shop was part to ghettotize the South Warren district and make it a miserable place for pimps and prostitution. Now its gone and all the residents of South Warren area are happy.
(Message edited by danny on November 05, 2007) |
Shiva
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 11:28 am: | |
"And people who can't get home with their product now doen't even need to get out of their home because of the internet, which was made for porn."
And here I thought the internet was created by the US Department of Defense to be used as an alternative communication system in the event of a nuclear war. It seems it was created for porn all along.
You don't get it, do you? While I agree that most people obtain their porn via the internet, there are some individuals out there not belonging to the army of one handed typist.
So, the people unable or unwilling to log onto the world's smut pipe are still looking for a place to score a porn fix. These shops (porn, not candy) attract a less than desirable element and cause blight in a neighborhood.
By the way 6nois, you may want to check out the soundtrack for the musical "Avenue Q"
You would be interested in the show stopping song "The internet is for porn" |
6nois
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Username: 6nois
Post Number: 562
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 12:29 pm: | |
I know the song, I get all of my information from musicals. They are the most reliable source.
Now as for me not getting it, I really do get it, but I am afraid that you don't. There are all sorts of businesses and any type can be good or bad, and have good or bad effects on an area. You can not judge based on what type of business it is but rather on the owner and how their business is run. |
Viziondetroit
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Post Number: 1276
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 12:31 pm: | |
"These shops (porn, not candy) attract a less than desirable element and cause blight in a neighborhood."
^^^blight? please explain. |
Crumbled_pavement
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Username: Crumbled_pavement
Post Number: 31
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 12:49 pm: | |
Just out of curiosity, approximately how many porn shops are there operating in Detroit. Judging by the tone of the thread, it's like there is one on every corner. |
Gnome
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Post Number: 305
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 1:00 pm: | |
If it wasn't for porn, the internet would still be dial-up slow, the vcr wouldn't have taken off like it did, and tin-type photos would still be in use.
Porn is a huge motivation behind technological improvements. Sex...sells. |
Viziondetroit
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Username: Viziondetroit
Post Number: 1277
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 1:08 pm: | |
Crumbled.... off hand I can think of about less than 10. Maybe some frequent shoppers will chime in.
People are talking about this like we are discussing liquor stores or something. |
Detroitnerd
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Post Number: 1594
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 1:52 pm: | |
That business is dying on its own, folks. People do most of that stuff online now... |
Crumbled_pavement
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Username: Crumbled_pavement
Post Number: 34
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 2:07 pm: | |
"People are talking about this like we are discussing liquor stores or something."
I agree. I could see the argument against strip clubs because there are tons of them in the city. But porn shops? |
Kslice
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Username: Kslice
Post Number: 201
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 3:57 pm: | |
Why would a city want to shut down businesses within it, especially around here?
While not a highly respectable business the owners still probably paid taxes and spent the money they made in the area. Regardless of what kind of business it is, this seems like a very un-American, anti-business thing to do... |
Bibs
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Post Number: 712
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 4:51 pm: | |
Are any of the candidates for mayor in Warren claiming this as a WIN in their campaign for mayor? Roads suddenly get paved just before an election. Yes, the current mayor is term limited! |
Beavis1981
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Post Number: 623
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 5:32 pm: | |
Smogboy- Even though lovers lane and uncle larry's whack-it warehouse sell the same stuff they cater to different needs. Lovers lane is a place you would take your g/f and purchase items to enhance life in bed. Uncle larry's whack-it warehouse is where you go without your g/f and you usually hide these items under the bed. |
Miesfan
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 7:14 pm: | |
quote:Smogboy: C'mon, you know there's a difference. The two places you mentioned are catering to a certain carnality, a "lust for lust's sake," kind of maybe I suppose, even, but they are catering to it as it may exist inside a relationship. Hard-core pornography, almost always, is not about relationships. It is more about fantasy, which would be O.K. but for the fact that a major component of the fantasy directly involves (excuse the use of an over-used term) the total objectification of women as something to come in, or on, rather than someone to come with.
See, I told you that you knew.
Come with? Sounds like someone is spending more time thinking about sex than actually having sex. |
Cheddar_bob
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Post Number: 1459
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 8:37 pm: | |
This reminds me of the time I used to go into this porn shop. I would buy magazines and such and then take them out to my car and masturbate. This was back in the seventies, but I still remember the look on the guy's face who lived next door. Good times. |
Falstaff
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 5:05 am: | |
quote:This reminds me of the time I used to go into this porn shop. I would buy magazines and such and then take them out to my car and masturbate. This was back in the seventies, but I still remember the look on the guy's face who lived next door. Good times.
Isn't every other store in Flint a porn shop? Lots of choices for Bob. |
Smogboy
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Post Number: 6324
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 5:16 am: | |
Beavis, you speak from experience there?
But seriously I think this is the difficulty or the conundrum here. If both the Lover's Lane and (as you so eloquently and hilariously call them) Uncle Larry's Whack-It Warehouse stock the same naughty items that help people have the same results, I can see this being a legal quagmire for the courts to decide what is legit and what isn't. |
Cybersanford
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 7:23 am: | |
Porn shops ghettotize south Warren? Ghetto comes from black people and poor white trash not porn. Poor people who don't move the lawn and keep up the house. A $50,000.00 Escalade in the driveway of a $40,000.00 house. Junk cars and trash filles back yards. Thats ghetto. What does porn have to do with it?????????????? |
Crumbled_pavement
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Username: Crumbled_pavement
Post Number: 38
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 7:54 am: | |
Cybersanford said: "Ghetto comes from black people and poor white trash not porn. Poor people who don't move the lawn and keep up the house."
Wow, I didn't know that. All this time I thought ghetto started out as a word to describe where Jewish people lived. Well thanks for educating me. I'm going to go move my lawn because apparently it's not in the right spot. |
Gnome
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 8:16 am: | |
Me too Crumbled, I'll be moving my lawn right after I filles some of my trash and ghettotize some question marks. I'll also be misusing the F out of some apostrophes.
Nothing quite like a ignorant Cracka to make one feel superior. Thanx Cyber, I needed a laugh. |
Ravine
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Post Number: 1547
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 8:27 am: | |
Miesfan, while attempting to seem clever, has demonstrated an obvious dis-understanding of my post. |
Miesfan
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 9:16 am: | |
Explain how I dis-understand you. Better still explain the word dis-understand. |
Danny
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Post Number: 6760
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| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 10:09 am: | |
Cybersanford said: "Ghetto comes from black people and poor white trash not porn."
That's an ILL and it's NON-SEQUITUR! NOT TRUE!
The word "Ghetto" is a medieval Italian word meaning an internment institutional enviroment where a group of minorities are placed. The first planned "Ghetto" happened by the Roman Catholic Church based upon the inquisition reports when the Italian Jews did not convert to Christianity. Then by the late 1930s in Nazi-Germany, Chancellor Hitler place all German Jews into "Ghettos" until the "final solution" just to make all of Germany an Anglo-Saxon Aryan Christian society ruled by white people who had blond hair and blue eyes. The word "Ghetto" didn't appear to the African American communities until after the 1950s. But a Black American ghetto is and now today a free open slum but it is today a psychological institutional enviroment with no visible gates. It does have a visible demarcation border with the white community (i.e. Black folks can leave the ghetto if they wanted to, but the MUST earn it with no short cuts). Then the word "Ghetto" has been adapted into the Ebonic dictionary meaning a slum place where minorities lives.( minorities that is misread as Black folks.)
Poor people who don't move the lawn and keep up the house."
Cybersanford comments is NON-SEQUITUR! I see lots of poor people who move the lawn and keep their house clean. even in the ghettos of Detroit, the inner ring suburbs, that includes all of South Warren area.
This will be a lesson to all of your in this forum. before your post any viewpoints in this thread do, your research and come up with a thesis to back your argument. |
Smogboy
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Post Number: 6327
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| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 10:46 am: | |
And a lesson to Danny that "NON-SEQUITUR" has no hyphens in it as well. Sure glad someone did their research and honed up on their English skills before piping up.
Sigh. |
Shiva
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Username: Shiva
Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 12:12 pm: | |
quote:This reminds me of the time I used to go into this porn shop. I would buy magazines and such and then take them out to my car and masturbate. This was back in the seventies, but I still remember the look on the guy's face who lived next door. Good times.
I'm glad you think this is amusing. Those of you defending this kind of business in or near our neighborhoods don't:
a) Live in Detroit
b) Care about Detroit
c) Both a and b
I'm stunned by the attitude here. Isn't it funny that Warren is a (comparatively) forward thinking community on this issue? |
6nois
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Post Number: 564
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 12:46 pm: | |
Funny thing Shiva I do
A Live in Detroit
B Care about Detroit
C Both A and B
Humm I would guess the answer is C but the city buying out a profitable business is not what I consider progress or forward , I would think of it as regressive circa 1972. Market conditions as well as the conditions of the area will dictate which type of business will operate there. You will never close all the porn shops, strip clubs, and other "morally" challenged places you feel exist, because there is a demand for them. |
Miesfan
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Post Number: 13
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| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:50 pm: | |
Shiva wants porno stores there so we don't have to have them here. |
Nainrouge
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 3:24 pm: | |
So, if they buy up the porn store, what will they do with the porn? Will they auction it off as a fund raiser for the library? Enquiring minds want to know. |
56packman
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Post Number: 1887
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 8:00 am: | |
Re: Cheddar_Bob's comment about buying whacking material and "using" it in the car--When we were stripping the Commerce building/cass theater building in '77 (legally, with the owner's permission) there was a room where all of the telephone equipment was located. A big telephone room, that building had the offices of the UP and the API. The various Ma Bell installers/techies that came in and out of the building to service the phone equipment would leave little bits of wisdom written on the plain plywood sheets that were mounted on the walls for the telephone gear. This one comes to mind re: this discussion:
"working for Michigan bell is like beating off--you do it, but you don't brag to anyone about it" |
Shiva
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:41 am: | |
quote:Shiva wants porno stores there so we don't have to have them here.
I don't want them near residential property. Set up a "red light" district in an industrial zoning area. Put them all together in one place.
One stop shopping for Cheddar_bob and all of his technologically challenged porn lovers. |
Arrogancy
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:21 pm: | |
Oddly enough, Windsor seems to do just fine with their brightly lit porn shops in residential areas. |
Ravine
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Post Number: 1551
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:36 pm: | |
O.K.... It's boring, to go over old stuff like this, but since my wording (with which I am fairly precise) has been questioned here, and seemingly demeaned elsewhere, please bear with me as I attempt to explain myself.
My use of the term dis-understanding:
Think of it as a semi-superlative form.
If you have a general idea of what I've said or written, but (possibly through my fault) didn't quite "get" what I was trying to express, that is "mis-understanding."
If you have not picked up, at all, on where I was going with something I said or wrote and, finding yourself left standing at a vacated bus stop, with leaves and assorted trash swirling at your feet, you go so far as to attempt some clever word-play based on my comments-- with the word-play seeming clever only, and directly, BECAUSE of your lostness-- that is "dis-understanding."
Are you with me? "Mis-" suggests that you had the ball in your mitt, but you didn't exactly field it cleanly. "Dis-" suggests that you did not handle the ball at all (which, usually, is the result of not being in the proper position to make the play.)
It is a valid, legitimate word, because I say so. Arguments are not encouraged, and will be met with merciless resistance. |
Cheddar_bob
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:37 pm: | |
Apparently some people didn't make the connection between this quote from Shiva...
quote:Years ago, I lived right next to one. The patrons would "shop" at all hours and then walk to their cars, take out their merchandise, and proceed to masturbate right in front of my house...I purchased it in the seventies
and what I said...
quote:This reminds me of the time I used to go into this porn shop. I would buy magazines and such and then take them out to my car and masturbate. This was back in the seventies, but I still remember the look on the guy's face who lived next door. Good times.
It's really a shame that I have to walk people through it (Falstaff) because it really ruins an otherwise good joke. |
Nainrouge
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:57 pm: | |
Lostness? Are your attempting to nounify "lost"? |
Ravine
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Post Number: 1554
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:58 pm: | |
Cheddar_bob, I share your pain. The real ass-frosting comes when a person who failed to "get" it tries to demean, or make fun of, your post.
Sort of like a guy pointing, and laughing, at someone else, unaware that their pants have fallen down and their fat, pimply hindquarters are showing.
However-- and I use this phrase in memory of Karl, for whom I had some respect-- "but do keep trying." I, for one, find your posts to be deliciously snarky and, frequently, hilarious. |
Bearinabox
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Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 5:02 pm: | |
^Agreed, except the part about having respect for Karl. |
Zxzm
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Post Number: 58
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:50 pm: | |
Shiva said:
quote:And here I thought the internet was created by the US Department of Defense to be used as an alternative communication system in the event of a nuclear war. It seems it was created for porn all along.
In response to this, I have to post this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6MvSAoJdMW0 |
56packman
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Post Number: 1890
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:02 am: | |
Cheddar-Bob--timing is everything in comedy. Your post to mockingly suggest that you were the wanker in the parking lot is 30 posts after Shiva's. |
Jimg
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Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:47 am: | |
Probably the best known red light district was in dear old New Orleans, the Navy essentially closed it in 1917. I'm sure other cities tacitly acknowledged certain districts were for immoral activities...what about the combat zone in Boston? |
Lobsterpots
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 8:59 am: | |
the Combat zone in Boston no longer exists. When the real estate boom happened, the city decided not to allow any more licenses for adult entertainment venues. The area gentrified, and there is no more combat zone in Boston. Its all luxury there now. The only two clubs that I noticed still there were The Glass Slipper and Centerfolds. I'm not sure if they are still there as I'm gay and have zero interest in looking at naked sluts. |
Cheddar_bob
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Post Number: 1501
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:06 pm: | |
56packman, sorry you couldn't hold your attention span for 2 full minutes. In the future I'll keep your ADD handicap in mind, thus saving you some confusion. We'll get through this together. |
56packman
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Post Number: 1891
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 6:16 pm: | |
Thank you for that. I'll go back to reading my favorite book, the Attention Deficit Disorder association's guide to north American birds HEY, let's go ride our bikes! |
Cheddar_bob
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Username: Cheddar_bob
Post Number: 1502
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 10:31 pm: | |
Hahaha. I've always liked that joke. |
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