  Shiva Member Username: Shiva Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2007 |
The City of Warren just purchased the last adult bookstore in that community - according to a report on Local 4 ( City Buys Porn Shop) Why can't Detroit look into this approach? If you can't shut these places down otherwise, buy them out. That would help the neighbors living nearby these places. | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1874 Registered: 12-2005 |
what? and force out the only thriving business you have? | ||
Mike Member Username: Mike Post Number: 1055 Registered: 11-2003 |
i think i just thought of a small business venture. open up the only porn shop in warren. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 1937 Registered: 10-2006 |
Yeah, it seems like if you bought some out that they would just spring up elsewhere. Seems like a very temporary solution for a larger problem. | ||
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet Post Number: 909 Registered: 01-2007 |
I like the idea Mike! The one on 8 and Dequindre closed some time ago, and now porn dogs from the burbs must go to Detroit for their bathroom readers(and dope). Let me know when and where, and I'll come...er, drop in. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 2064 Registered: 04-2006 |
I think the porn shops are pretty low priority for Detroit, or at least they should below priority. It's not like Times Square where they were all over the most touristy area of the city. Even after New York got them out of Times Square, they just packed up and moved a block over to 8th Ave. | ||
6nois Member Username: 6nois Post Number: 558 Registered: 11-2006 |
The neighborhood porn shop is just like the neighborhood bar, or candy store, or anything else. Maybe a bit more salacious but never the less still an important part of the community. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 1272 Registered: 11-2003 |
Bulletmagnet the one on 8 and Dequindre is still open I pass it everyday. It is on the north side of the building but it is very discreet. So let's take taxpayer dollars to buy a business and then replace the business with what? Detroit has a few of them but what is the real problem? They aren't in the middle of neighborhoods per se. They are on 8 mile, Woodward etc... Is there a crime problem around them? Is there prostitution? They should also get rid of liquor stores then too if it is a moral thing.. and also any place that sells cigarettes. I've been in the purple building on 8 mile (lol) one time.... but I'm trying to figure out the real problem. If you don't want them, don't let them open in the first place. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 1273 Registered: 11-2003 |
I'd prefer Detroit take my tax dollars and knock down these abandon houses and buildings before I worry about the porn shops. | ||
Shiva Member Username: Shiva Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2007 |
"The neighborhood porn shop is just like the neighborhood bar, or candy store, or anything else. Maybe a bit more salacious but never the less still an important part of the community." What are you smoking? The peep show is part of the same community fabric as the candy store? I would hate to see your version of "Mr. Roger's neighborhood" - you might have too much interest in Mr. Trolly entering the tunnel. Wow! | ||
6nois Member Username: 6nois Post Number: 559 Registered: 11-2006 |
Sex doesn't have to be something dirty or wrong. Stores that provide porn and novelties can be a nice pick me up to any relationship. They provide a service that people must want or they wouldn't exist. So I have to say maybe you don't have enough interest and you shouldn't be such a prude. | ||
Shiva Member Username: Shiva Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2007 |
Perhaps you should climb off your tolerant soapbox and move into a home adjacent to a sex shop, topless club. Tell us how open minded you feel about these establishments about two weeks after living next to one. Clang clang clang goes the trolly................ | ||
Mike Member Username: Mike Post Number: 1058 Registered: 11-2003 |
sometimes liquor, porn, and cigarettes are all that a person can afford to get away from life's ills. I say, let them have their porn | ||
6nois Member Username: 6nois Post Number: 560 Registered: 11-2006 |
I actually like being up on my tolerant soapbox, the view from up here is amazing. | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1876 Registered: 12-2005 |
We need Terryh's input to complete this discussion | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 5643 Registered: 08-2004 |
... and think of all the riff-raff that the peep shows in these places are keeping out of freeway rest areas and airport bathrooms...  | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 3925 Registered: 02-2005 |
Detroit doesn't look into this approach because a) buying them out requires $ to compensate, which Detroit doesn't have and b) because if you look at a cost-benefit analysis, it probably isn't worth it to buy out a business which pays taxes just for the sake of stopping them from selling something which will find its way into people's hands anyway...plus this is Detroit and there's no guarantee that a new tenant will move in and pay taxes. You would have to convince the city's economists that there would be a huge gain in utility that would justify spending $ to put someone out of business. ...as atrocious and outmoded (I thought people ordered this stuff online) as those stores are. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 621 Registered: 04-2006 |
these moral high horse games HAVE to stop... if you don't want a porn shop near little timmy's house, then create a new zoning ordinance that states that any retial establishment offing goods or services of an adult nature can not be within 1000 feet of single family homes. This moral crap must stop, though. | ||
Shiva Member Username: Shiva Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2007 |
Some of you live sheltered lives protecting you from the truth about adult bookstores. Years ago, I lived right next to one. The patrons would "shop" at all hours and then walk to their cars, take out their merchandise, and proceed to masturbate right in front of my house. Forgive me if my objections to that kind of behavior makes me some sort of religious zealot in your eyes. It was very difficult to sell that house while comparable homes located further away from the porn shop sold for more money. I'm sure Warren couldn't just enact a zoning ordinance to shut down the shop they had. That business would have been grandfathered and still able to operate. If you ever saw the blight and misery these kind of businesses cause the neighbors living nearby, you wouldn't equate them with a candy shop. You sound completely ridiculous when you make that comparison. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 622 Registered: 04-2006 |
they arn't candy shops, that's for sure, at least not to most... but banning them is equatable to prohibition of booze. All of this "bad stuff' should be legal. People should be allowed to make their own decisions and their own mistakes. However, like I said, maybe you could keep them away from certain "family" areas. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 6310 Registered: 11-2004 |
Can someone explain the real differences between a porn shop and places like Priscilla's & Lovers' Lane. Don't they in essence sell the same sort of stuff? | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 294 Registered: 12-2003 |
No, they don't. | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 289 Registered: 01-2007 |
Shiva, Did you buy a house next to a porn establishment? If so, you probably got a discount on the house price to begin with. I'm all in favor of Detroit buying & running porn and prostitution houses. It'll help pay off King Kwame's legal bills with suburban coin. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 828 Registered: 08-2005 |
Hasn't the internet made these places obsolete anyways? I'm surprised they can stay in business at all. | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1542 Registered: 01-2006 |
Smogboy: C'mon, you know there's a difference. The two places you mentioned are catering to a certain carnality, a "lust for lust's sake," kind of maybe I suppose, even, but they are catering to it as it may exist inside a relationship. Hard-core pornography, almost always, is not about relationships. It is more about fantasy, which would be O.K. but for the fact that a major component of the fantasy directly involves (excuse the use of an over-used term) the total objectification of women as something to come in, or on, rather than someone to come with. See, I told you that you knew. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 6311 Registered: 11-2004 |
Ravine, I see your point there but from a legal point of view or better yet, from an inventory point of view- aren't they selling the same items? It's just a very fuzzy fine line to straddle. | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1543 Registered: 01-2006 |
Smogboy, I'm with you on that. If those places are selling hard-core porn, I think they should stop doing so. Sex toys and such are one thing, but the way I see it, if a couple craves external stimuli to the extent of hard-core porn, then they really don't have enough mutual attraction to make the whole damned thing even worth bothering with. I believe hard-core porn is for people who like to have sex with themselves. (Not that there's anything so bad about that.) I'm probably going to catch all kinds of hell for what I've written here. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 6314 Registered: 11-2004 |
There's no easy way around this. I think porn shops fall into one of those categories of "They're fine as long as they're not in MY neighborhood" debates. | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 591 Registered: 07-2007 |
porn shops operate where the losers are. go figure. | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 45 Registered: 08-2007 |
8 mile without porn shops? kinda like detroit without the tigers |
