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Raptor56
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This Friday, Nov 16th is the annual Detroit Christmas Tree lighting ceremony at Campus Martius, and the opening of the outdoor skating rink. Went last year and had a great time!

http://www.campusmartiuspark.o rg/img/111607%20tree%20lightin g%20ws.pdf
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 1:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't try to force your beliefs on me!

HOLIDAY tree...say it with me...HOLIDAY tree

:D
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Raptor56
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 1:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok....

This Friday, Nov 16th is the annual Detroit HOLIDAY Christmas Tree lighting ceremony at Campus Martius, and the opening of the outdoor skating rink. Went last year and had a great time at this HOLIDAY Christmas party!
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 1:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm just playin...

People who argue over "christmas" v. "holiday" are way too uptight
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Wash_man
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been there the last two years and will be there this Friday also. Looking forward to it.
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Detroitstar
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 2:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn, they really need to start consulting me before they schedule this event!

JK!

Hope it all goes well again. I wish I didnt have to miss it again, I loved the event the first 2 years!
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Jt1
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 2:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm gonna pass. Too many here have been telling me how dangerous downtown is these days. I don;t want to put myself at risk.
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Detroitprincess
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I feel safer downtown then I ever did living in Madison Heights. oh jt1-there is crime in every city. You are not safe anywhere you go. look at what just happened in Canton! sorry you will miss out :-( Hopefully you will change your mind and enjoy a nice evening! I love downtown and I will be at the Christmas Tree lighting. Can't wait hope to see you there!
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Jt1
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 3:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Princess - I appreciate the response. I was just being a smartass to all of the 'downtown is so dangerous' crowd.

I would certainly be there is I was not out of town on that day.
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Raptor56
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 3:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thejesus -> I ws just being a smartass for a laugh. I figured TheJesus wouldn't have a problem with the word "Christmas"....
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Chris_rohn
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The tree looked great all lit up today.
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Renfirst
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 4:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about Festivus?
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Pam
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.campusmartiuspark.o rg/webcam.htm
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The tree looks pretty lit up already. What's the ceremony for? ;)
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Raptor56
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good question. Is today setup and testing day?
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Irish_mafia
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is still lame that they are afraid to call a Christmas Tree a Christmas Tree! There is only one holiday that it represents and it isn't a made up pc holiday invented in the days of freedom "from" religion.

There you have it... now enjoy the party.

Let's all join in for the lighting of the shrubbery.
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Pam
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quote:

There is only one holiday that it represents and it isn't a made up pc holiday invented in the days of freedom "from" religion.



And that holiday is the winter solstice. Tree worship is pagan. It has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just how would you account for all those pine cones in Bethlehem? Eh? :-)
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Kathleen
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Lighting of Detroit’s Holiday Tree Celebration, Campus Martius Park, Downtown Detroit, Friday, November 16, 7pm. This annual event features local musical entertainment including Mitch Ryder & Thornetta Davis, Marvin Winans, Jr., and other musical entertainment, Detroit’s Olympic skating champions, and the lighting of Detroit’s official holiday tree.
http://www.campusmartiuspark.o rg/index.htm

If you can’t be there in person, watch it live on WXYZ TV/Channel 7, who, in collaboration with Detroit 300 Conservancy, presents Detroit’s newest holiday tradition, “The Night of Lights at Campus Martius Park” from 7:30 to 9pm.
http://web.wxyz.com/campusmart ius/

I'll be there watching my favorite drummer!! Hope to see you there!!

Also...Inside Detroit is offering a Pre-Lighting Pub Crawl. Starting at The Well, tickets are $10 advance; $15 at the door. For details or to RSVP, http://www.insidedetroit.org/s chedule.html
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Thecarl
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

last year, the fine folks at the erstwhile daimlerchrysler corporation extended an invitation for workers to invite their families to a display of trees decorated in "typical year-end fashion."

it doesn't get more anemic than that.
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Irish_mafia
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"And that holiday is the winter solstice. Tree worship is pagan. It has nothing to do with the birth of Christ."

Pam, Pam, Pam!

Yes tree worship is depressingly Druid...but the Christmas Tree is entirely in-line with the Christian celebration of Christ's birthday (note: we don't worship the tree). It was brought over by our Germanic forebears and has been, until recently bizarre anti-Christian times, a stalwart of the Christmas season.

To those who haven't experienced a rather relaxed break from the challenges of the day...a stop at your local church can be more relaxing and envigorating than a spa (at a much diminished cost).

For fun, try it at one of the many great architechturally significant homes that we have downtown. Many of you may find one that fits just right!

Ciao!
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Detroitrise
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Raptor, about the top of the thread, when Thejesus says stuff like that, just don't pay him any mind.

By the way, this is great. I hope it will be as nice as last year's.
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Thecarl
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quote:

And that holiday is the winter solstice. Tree worship is pagan. It has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.



who's worshipping trees? if i bake a cake for my daughter's birthday, it doesn't mean i'm worshipping ovens.
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know what is the smallest kids size skates they rent there?
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Pam
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 6:59 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.christmas-tree.com/ where.html

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King Tut never saw a Christmas tree, but he would have understood the tradition which traces back long before the first Christmas, says David Robson, Extension Educator, Horticulture with the Springfield Extension Center.

The Egyptians were part of a long line of cultures that treasured and worshipped evergreens. When the winter solstice arrive, they brought green date palm leaves into their homes to symbolize life's triumph over death.

The Romans celebrated the winter solstice with a fest called Saturnalia in honor of Saturnus, the god of agriculture. They decorated their houses with greens and lights and exchanged gifts. They gave coins for prosperity, pastries for happiness, and lamps to light one's journey through life.

Centuries ago in Great Britain, woods priests called Druids used evergreens during mysterious winter solstice rituals. The Druids used holly and mistletoe as symbols of eternal life, and place evergreen branches over doors to keep away evil spirits.

Late in the Middle Ages, Germans and Scandinavians placed evergreen trees inside their homes or just outside their doors to show their hope in the forthcoming spring. Our modern Christmas tree evolved from these early traditions.



Even if you don't think you are "worshipping" the tree, the origins of it are pagan. If you want to celebrate the birth of Jesus, put up a manger scene. Holiday tree is actually a more accurate term for it than Christmas tree.
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Irish_mafia
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Holiday tree is actually a more accurate term for it than Christmas tree."

Well, no its not. Its just a pc name that was invented in the recent years to avoid anything that might smack of religion.

Most people know the pagan origins of the Christmas tree and the usurping of it by Christianity to tie the early rituals to the church.

Just as most of us understand the attempt by the pc crowds of today to detach it from the Church by calling it something other than a Christmas Tree.

Its a Christmas Tree and will remain so whether you try to rename it Ralph, George or Heimlich.

And no, a manger is not an open - double wide festivus trailer.
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Pam
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

"Holiday tree is actually a more accurate term for it than Christmas tree."

Well, no its not. Its just a pc name that was invented in the recent years to avoid anything that might smack of religion.

Most people know the pagan origins of the Christmas tree and the usurping of it by Christianity to tie the early rituals to the church.

Just as most of us understand the attempt by the pc crowds of today to detach it from the Church by calling it something other than a Christmas Tree.



Pagans are still out there, so since the tree applies to their holiday, holiday tree makes sense to me. Also secular people put up trees. Christians can't claim any religious significance or sole ownership of the trees, sorry. That's a fact, nothing to do with being "PC".
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Irish_mafia
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"That's a fact, nothing to do with being "PC". "

Well, no. You're own attempts to rename what everyone knows as a Christmas Tree is exactly PC.

The "fact" is that the Christmas Tree has been used in both religious and secular settings for many generations before you came along.

The Ralph Tree or the Barnabas Tree, or whatever you want to call it, have not.

Its a Christmas Tree.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Personally, I think Christmas has surpassed being a religious holiday which speaks volumes for its influence over people.
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I'll definately make it down. I missed every attempt before then and the scene from Channel 4 was a very nice sight. Still kills me how they won't use the new part of the park for anything though. <sigh>
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Pam
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 11:21 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Well, no. You're own attempts to rename what everyone knows as a Christmas Tree is exactly PC.

The "fact" is that the Christmas Tree has been used in both religious and secular settings for many generations before you came along.
The Ralph Tree or the Barnabas Tree, or whatever you want to call it, have not.

Its a Christmas Tree.



It is a tree that has nothing to do with Christianity. It is a decoration, not a religious ritual like communion, so why be offended if it is called a holiday tree? It is just an acknowledgement that people of pagan religions or no religion at all, also put up trees.

Since I am now repeating myself I will say goodbye to this thread and Happy Holidays everyone.
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Irish_mafia
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas to you Pam
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Raptor56
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitrise: not feeding into TheJesus. just making a sarcastic comment based on his sarcastic comment. purely in jest, hence leaving Christmas in the statement still.

p.s.: Pam, this was a thread regarding the tree lighting ceremony and skate rink opening. Quit trying to thread jack it with PC babble. Thank you.
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The use of Christmas Trees became more universally popular starting in AD 1840. That was the year that England's young Queen Victoria married her first cousin Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (a small German state located north of Bavaria).

At Christmas of that year, Albert insisted on a Christmas tree for Buckingham Palace, as had been the custom in his native Coburg.

When other Englishmen saw the tree, they decided to have one as well, and it started a craze that continues to this day throughout Christendom.
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Raptor56
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anybody know how far of a walk it is from Campus Martius to the new MGM Casino? I was thinking about checking it out while I'm down there.
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Irish_mafia
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1: Start out going SOUTH on MI-1 S / WOODWARD AVE toward WOODWARD AVE. <0.1 miles Map

2: Enter next roundabout and take 1st exit onto MICHIGAN AVE / US-12 W. 0.3 miles Map

3: Turn RIGHT onto 1ST ST. 0.1 miles Map

4: Turn LEFT onto BAGLEY ST. <0.1 miles Map

5: Turn RIGHT onto 2ND AVE. 0.2 miles Map

6: Turn LEFT onto PLUM ST. <0.1 miles Map

7: Turn LEFT onto 3RD ST. <0.1 miles Map

8: End at MGM Grand Detroit Hotel & Casino:
1777 3rd St, Detroit, MI 48226, US Map

Total Est. Time: 4 minutes Total Est. Distance: 0.93 miles
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Irish_mafia
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let me retract that.

If you are walking, the one ways are irrelevant. Go down Michigan to 3rd Street (6 blocks, the last block is a long one). Go right 4 blocks and you are there at 3rd and Elizabeth.

That probably cuts 3 blocks off the original directions.
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Raptor56
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 5:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank You
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Any idea what time the actual lighting will be? I'm taking a group of a half dozen or so downtown Friday night, and we'd like to see the tree lit, but have plans immediately following. I can't recall exactly what time it was lit in past years, but I'm hoping it wasn't much past 7:30 or 8:00...

I'm taking them to the lounge in Coach Insignia for a couple of cocktails and view, then we're heading to MGM Grand for sushi. I haven't been to 'The Grand Wok and Sushi Bar' yet, but I'd imagine it must be pretty good...
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Kathleen
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I've heard that the actual tree lighting is around 8:30. Gotta keep the crowd (and TV audience) in suspense for a while through the various musical and skating performers, plus have some time to wrap up the show by 9pm.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

8:40pm officially.
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Here, save yourself the hassle. The tree was already on tonight.


CM Tree on Tuesday
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry to say this, but it sucked.

I walked around Campus Martius at least three times, never was able to see the stage clearly.

Hell, the best view I saw was when I asked the bartender at Forans to put on Channel 7.
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Kathleen
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Agreed!! It's terribly disappointing that the site was not very accommodating to visitors unless they paid $10 to sit next to the rink. This is supposed to be a civic event. Why not make it an accessible event?

I heard of some others that were downtown but ended up going home to watch the lighting on TV.
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I had gone last year so I knew not to expect much during the actual lighting but if you stuck around a few more minutes they let everyone into the VIP area and it really cleared out. Music went on till late in the night.
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We parked at the New Greektown Casino parking garage and it was...

Easy to get to
Really nice staff
Good lighting in Garage
Security camera's
5 elevators served each floor
inside the stairs music played
( I think it was just the commercial for Greektown playing over and over agian.

The skywalk was really nice!


THE PARKING WAS FREE
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If you're down at Campus Martius in the next week or so, stop in and look at the decorated Christmas trees in the lobby of Compuware. One of the trees is mine--they're decorated and sold off as a fundraiser for DMC's Children's Hospital.
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A shot I took from the tree lighting. Kind of a different perspective.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/s outhen/2039884478/
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We had a great time at the tree lighting and nearby festivities.

We too started at the Greektown parking garage. On our way to grab a pre-lighting dinner, I insisted we first stop for a drink... at the Well. I didn't realize this was the kickoff spot for Inside Detroit's bar hop: signed up and drank a Stroh's. Next stop was the Pulse -- a very, very cool bar. The final stop was Foran's which was a great location for quickly stepping out to see the tree light up. We bustled out of there to catch last call at the DIA opening before heading to the Park Bar for some Bucharest food.

We had an absolute blast of a time and Downtown looked awesome.
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Renfirst
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Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 12:43 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great shot Southen, beautiful.

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