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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20071114/BUS INESS01/71114064

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The assembly plant is part of an ambitious plan to boost VW’s U.S. sales to 800,000 by 2018. The German manufacturer also wants to increase American sales of its Audi luxury brand to 200,000 in 2018.

Jacoby said the plant location must be in a time zone that shares working hours with VW’s headquarters in Germany. That rules the Pacific time zone out, he said. Other key criteria in choosing a location are infrastructure, including access to transportation and the availability of a skilled workforce.

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Mbr
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha, No chance in hell.
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Zxzm
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, no chance. If they located here, VW might have a shot in hell of building a products that doesn't need to go to the shop every other week.
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Gistok
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well since there's a 6 hour difference between EST and German time... there's no place in North America that is farther east that is a closer time zone, except Newfoundland Canada, which is 1/2 hour earlier (5 1/2 hour time difference from German time).
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Lilpup
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What constitutes shared work hours? How many overlapping hours in how long of a day? Germany is six hours ahead of us, nine ahead of California.
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Lilpup
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jinx!
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Scottr
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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The new plant will be able to produce at least 200,000 vehicles a year and will begin production in 2011 or 2012, Jacoby said. The location of the plant has not been determined, but Jacoby suggested Michigan could be a candidate. VW will announce where it will build the plant in the first half of 2012


This will be a first. A plant will begin production before it is even announced where it will be built!

Honestly, with the extensive supplier base around here, a generally experienced but mostly unemployed workforce, and ample water, Michigan probably stands a decent chance. Good to hear that something Jenny has done might pay off, and admittedly, better than I would have expected.
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Mikeg
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's entirely possible that MI is a viable candidate.

During the 1970s and early 80's, VW had an assembly pant in Westmoreland, PA and a stamping facility in West Virginia. When LTV vacated their plant on Van Dyke north of Metro Parkway in the early 1980s, VW purchased it with the intent to assemble cars there, too. However, their sales slumped badly and they never tooled it up (they also closed the PA and WV facilities). The Sterling Heights plant was eventually sold to Chrysler, which still produces cars there today.
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Union. Labor.

I think they'll pass.
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Zxzm
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They deal w/ plenty of it in Kraut land.
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Yaktown
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How about Wixom? The old Ford plant would be a good candidate, no? If mayor-elect Hinkley wants to start off on a good note, this would be it. Maybe then they could fix that god-awful interchange at I-96!
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Jerome81
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you guys nuts? This is the same company that just LEFT Detroit. Why the hell would they come back with an even bigger, longer-term investment?

This is about as crazy as VW thinking they can sell 800,000 cars in the US by 2018....
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Patrick
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VW will never be a success in the USA without totally changing their "Teutonic Sprockets" image. If they want to start selling more cars they need to cater to middle America a little better.
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^The Jetta seemed to be pretty successful from a sales standpoint...

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Other key criteria in choosing a location are infrastructure, including access to transportation and the availability of a skilled workforce.



Nope, sorry Michigan. I would bet on somewhere in Chicagoland...
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scottr, that's hilarious. They'll announced a location for the factory in 2012, but production of cars may start there in 2011.
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Goat
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard this is supposed to go to Indiana...
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Germany is only 4.5 hours ahead of Newfoundland. I don't think VW is crazy enough to build cars out there, however.
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Aiw
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chrysler and VW are partnering on a Mini-van that is to be built on the Chrysler assembly line by Chrysler workers in Windsor in 2009.
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Scottr
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Johnlodge, the freep eventually caught and fixed the error, kind of a shame, cause it was funny.

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including access to transportation


Iheartthed, that means rail (for freight, not commuters) and possibly water for shipping - both of which we have access to, not to mention, our extensive freeway system. In other words, they aren't going to build it somewhere with no freeways or rail.
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Aiw
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well New Stanton, Pennsylvania wasn't exactly a metropolis in 1978...

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