Rotation_slim Member Username: Rotation_slim
Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 10:59 am: | |
Inside info on the brewing scandal in Wayne County. Steve Wilson at Ch. 7 uncovers no-show jobs at Wayne County IT Dept, including the directors girlfriend, and Ficano's Political hack Ralph Kinney. Wilson has it cold... and asks Ficano for comment. Snake Ficano then calls WDIV and invites their lapdog "investigative" reporter Kevin Dietz over to "give him a story" Ficano then spins a tale that "he (Ficano) had discovered the fraud" The reality, of course, is that Ficano was complicit all along and he is just making WDIV his Bitch. So 4 airs their garbage story last night, making Ficano look like a Saint. Tonight at 11pm Wilson reports the whole story, and brings a hammer down on Ficano. Stay tuned, this should be good (BTW.. Wilson haters out there hold your garbage until after you have seen his story tonight, then if you want to comment on the story feel free.. but save us the wasted bandwidth in commenting on Steve's waistline and other mindless tripe.) |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1873 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 11:09 am: | |
knowing someone familiar with the goings on during this interview with wilson, it'll be interesting how crafty wilson gets with the editing to tell his story |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 447 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 11:14 am: | |
Good God, it's Rotation Slim come back from the dead. Do they carry axe handles and baseball bats in the trunks of the Cruiser in heaven? |
Rotation_slim Member Username: Rotation_slim
Post Number: 64 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 11:22 am: | |
Craig, You are one of the few oldtimers who would recognize the name. I adopted the moniker just because I love the sound of it, NOT because I endorse his infamous behavior. I am not old enough to remember him, I pirated the name after reading it in Ike's book. (For lurkers: Rotation Slim was the name of an old time Detroit cop who put a beating on Ike Mckinnon when he was a kid) |
The_ed Member Username: The_ed
Post Number: 975 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:17 pm: | |
Rotation Slim is an 81-year-old black man who spent the 1940s through the 1980s working as a house pimp and a hustler in Europe, New York, Detroit, and Illinois. He also owned and operated The Pony Lounge, a strip club/go-go joint/whorehouse in Michigan City, Indiana, and served for ten years as the labor chairman of the Michigan City chapter of the NAACP |
Rotation_slim Member Username: Rotation_slim
Post Number: 65 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:33 pm: | |
Update: WDIV at Noon announced 3 people resigned from Wayne County - They took credit for it. Wilson's big story comming up at 6pm. Also, there is that street hustler/pimp called Rotation Slim, as noted, but I took my moniker from the dirty Detroit cop: From: http://www.answers.com/topic/i saiah-mckinnon " It wasn't the first or last time McKinnon faced overt racism. As a 14-year-old at Cass Technical High School, McKinnon was stopped, frisked, and humiliated one day by a white officer known throughout the neighborhood as "Rotation Slim." Kresnak noted that this officer "slapped [McKinnon] hard and used a racial slur" when McKinnon asked why he was being stopped." |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 80 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:39 pm: | |
WDIV story: 2 off the job (The reporter was Mara MacDonald, not Kevin Dietz) BTW, Steve Wilson is thought of as one of the worst investigative reporters in the United States. But he sure does well here. (Message edited by Falstaff on November 15, 2007) |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2027 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:40 pm: | |
Does Steve Wilson always have to be stirring up the pot? I mean it is one thing to investigate, but yet another thing to just keep digging until you find something. If Steve Wilson becomes 'the story' then he is not being a good reporter. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 1629 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:42 pm: | |
Is the name Ben Turpin taken? |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 81 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:47 pm: | |
quote:If Steve Wilson becomes 'the story' then he is not being a good reporter. Steve Wilson is ALWAYS becoming the story. He has in every market he has ever worked in. The strange case of Steve Wilson: how a fraudulent crusader snookered the left—and is threatening the First Amendment |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2029 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 1:58 pm: | |
Thanks Falstaff. Makes Steve Wilson sound like a really bad reporter: "Wilson's steamy reports for the Scripps Howard-owned station depended heavily on anonymous sources...Three days after the initial segment, Wilson was still going strong...Wilson has refused to answer specific questions about his reporting and financial affairs in interviews and written exchanges stretching back six years. His most common response is vitriolic obfuscation, and he declined to comment on the topic for this article." |
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 3182 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 2:12 pm: | |
Rotation Slim, what's your axe to grind against Ficano? Sounds like you just didn't like him to begin with, even before this story. |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 452 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 2:22 pm: | |
R_S - I'm not that old. An older family member worked at #13 years back and knew the original. I remember the story about the time that the cruiser was loading up for afternoons and the old relative saw the aforementioned implements of destruction going into the trunk. "Oh sh*t, what's going on?" the rookie asked himself. Nothing: just another day at 13. |
Rotation_slim Member Username: Rotation_slim
Post Number: 66 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 2:26 pm: | |
no axe to grind against him personally, I like him, he seems to get the job done, but when the top guy in your IT department, a guy who was your campaign manager, his girlfriend shows up on the county payroll for a no-show job, I got a problem with that. And when Wilson calls it to Ficano's attention, Ficano grabs the phone, calls Wilson's competitor, then gives the competitor the story, knowing that Dietz is such a journalistic lightweight that he will not know he is being powned like a noob. That is why I call Ficano A snake, a smart snake, but a snake none-the-less. And it is Dietz who did the story, McDonald was just pimping it last night because it was a rush job to try to beat Wilson to air, and Dietz was unavailable. Dietz is on it today. As to Wilson, if he has the proof (and aparantly he does if 3 people resigned over this) that folks are getting paid but not showing up for work, I think that is a pretty solid story... regardless of his "style" of reporting |
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 3185 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 2:31 pm: | |
I guess I like Ficano because he refused to accept Farbman's exorbitant terms on the Wayne County Building. Like you say, he gets the job done. Generally, anyone who goes against the evil Farbman empire is OK by me. |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 82 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:07 pm: | |
Poor Steve. Couldn't get the story to air before WDIV.
quote:And it is Dietz who did the story, McDonald was just pimping it last night because it was a rush job to try to beat Wilson to air, and Dietz was unavailable. Dietz is on it today. They didn't "try to beat Wilson to air", they DID beat Wilson to air. Steve should drown his sorrows with a Monsanto milk additive called recombinant bovine growth hormone. |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 1097 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:20 pm: | |
vitriolic obfuscation That would be a good name |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 83 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:20 pm: | |
quote:And when Wilson calls it to Ficano's attention, Ficano grabs the phone, calls Wilson's competitor, then gives the competitor the story, knowing that Dietz is such a journalistic lightweight that he will not know he is being powned like a noob. That is why I call Ficano A snake, a smart snake, but a snake none-the-less. This sounds an awful lot like something Wilson himself would write. I can't wait until 11 - - - would a box of deep fried twinkies make Wilson feel better? It seems to have worked in the past. They crunch when you fry them, right Steve? |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 4600 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:26 pm: | |
Does anybody have a tally on how much the taxpayers directly and indirectly save annually on account of such investigative reporting? That, and the media attention his station derives thereby from the publicity, would justify Wilson's continued existence. Ditto for those at Fox 2. |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 84 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:30 pm: | |
This isn't an argument about the value of investigative reporting. This thread began as a rant and whine about channel 4 beating channel 7 out on the same story. This thread is about television news competition, nothing more. (Well, there is now the issue of deep fried twinkies . . . ) |
Rotation_slim Member Username: Rotation_slim
Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:39 pm: | |
Correct Falstaff.. this thread is exactly about TV News wars.. I make no attempt to to hide that, or cast it as anything other then that. See my original heading It is duly noted that you were the first to go ugly and start calling Steve fat.. are you devoid of any legitimate thoughts.. or intellectual rigor? With a juicy, fun topic like this with dozens of different little points to debate and toss around.. and all you can come up with is (essentially) "fatso". That does not reflect well upon you at all. Frankly I had hoped for a little more. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 4601 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:45 pm: | |
The real story here (other than one channel scooping another) is whether or not Ficano is dishonest or did his department simply make some honest mistakes. |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 85 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:48 pm: | |
I had enough intellectual rigor to type out recombinant bovine growth hormone. Wilson scammed people for cash with his fraudulent story about that. Again, I introduced the link to: The strange case of Steve Wilson: how a fraudulent crusader snookered the left—and is threatening the First Amendment Doesn't that article provide "dozens of different little points to debate and toss around?" Some deep fried twinkies sounds pretty good right now! |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 1099 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:01 pm: | |
A forumer who sounds like Steve Wilson... named Slim... who gets mad if you insinuate Wilson is Fat! Now there's a story in there somewhere... |
Southofeight Member Username: Southofeight
Post Number: 116 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:04 pm: | |
Sounds like someone on this thread just loves Steve Wilson. There is nothing wrong with aggressively pursuing a story no one else in the city has the knowledge or balls to go after (red Navigator, et. al), but the guy is a total jackoff. The reporter should NEVER become the story and that guy has built his Midwestern network news career on doing just that, which is transparent and gets old really quick. His small-pond arrogance is baseless and weak. |
Novine Member Username: Novine
Post Number: 255 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:16 pm: | |
Kwame, take note of the proper way to deal with a potential scandal when your buddies are caught taking advantage of the system: http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20071115/NEWS01/ 71115049 |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 1411 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:33 pm: | |
Nice right wing sourcing on that article. |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 86 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:40 pm: | |
quote:A forumer who sounds like Steve Wilson... named Slim... who gets mad if you insinuate Wilson is Fat! Now there's a story in there somewhere... hmmmmmmmmm. Wilson likes to post on other boards. This sounds exactly like him. So protest away "Slim", I'm not buying. BTW - my screen name is Falstaff, a jolly fat man in Henry IV (parts 1 and 2). I'm not upset about my weight. Crunch Crunch Crunch those fried twinkies - you might feel better. |
Falstaff Member Username: Falstaff
Post Number: 87 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 4:44 pm: | |
quote:Nice right wing sourcing on that article. John Sugg, the author of that story, is a noted leftist journalist. Google his name, you'll see. But he is a journalist first. Wilson's antics offend his sense of journalistic integrity. |
Rotation_slim Member Username: Rotation_slim
Post Number: 68 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 9:59 pm: | |
I ask a little rational thought before you post. Think about your "allegation" that I am Steve Wilson. If you know he posts other places, then, by definition, he posts overtly, with his name. Otherwise you would not know it was him that was posting. Anyway... I am not sure why I would expect that kind of common sense from someone who's top intellectual achievement in this thread is to call Steve fat. Sorry buddy, my 3 year old could do that. I bet you point at special needs kids when you see them at the mall. I just don't get how calling Steve fat advances your argument in this thread, or your standing on this board. Is there any chance someone will think to themselves "...that Rain, he is hillarious, he picked up on the subtle fact that Steve Wilson is fat, and he talked about him eating twinkies.. that was hillarious.. pure comedy gold.. he is really one of the intellectual leaders on this board. " For the record, I am not Steve, I am a journalist in this area who has met him. Don't love him as a person, but respect his ability break a story. There is a lot of criticism of his style, but he seems to get his facts straight. |