Akoper Member Username: Akoper
Post Number: 18 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 10:02 pm: | |
Just a reminder that George Jackson, president of the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation (DEGC), is the guest speaker at the nonprofit group Cityscape Detroit’s annual meeting this Friday, Nov. 30. Come hear what the DEGC does; the latest with the East Riverfront, West Riverfront, Campus Martius, Lower Woodward Corridor, Rock Financial, Book/Cadillac, Hudson's Block, Lafayette Bldg., Old Federal Reserve Bldg., Fort/Shelby Bldg., UA/Statler site, etc.; and ask any questions you may have about development in Detroit. Again, the presentation is Friday, November 30, 2007 at 6:30 p.m. It is in the meeting room of SmartDetroit on the 13th floor of the Penobscot Building in downtown Detroit at 645 Griswold, Detroit, MI, 48226. The event is open to the public. Cityscape members are free and there is a $8 recommended donation at the door for nonmembers. Please try and RSVP to am@cityscapedetroit.org beforehand, but walkups are welcome. This is a fairly rare chance to hear the guy who does the things that everyone else talks about! |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 412 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 10:10 pm: | |
Please fill those of us that can't make it on the things that are talked about. I wish I could make it to hear about all of those things. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 4071 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 1:15 am: | |
I'm going to try to go to this. |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 3107 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:54 am: | |
Has anyone been a presentation like this by Mr Jackson?? Does he share info or is it a high level, general kind of talk?? |
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field
Post Number: 838 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 7:54 pm: | |
I hope someone asks him (Mr. Jackson) about the happenings at the David Whitney building. |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 358 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:34 pm: | |
I don't believe the Whitney was mentioned. There was "no comment" on the hockey arena questions. Everything else was discussed from the train station to the new bridge proposals, from the neighborhoods to Detroit Public Schools, and much more. It was an excellent presentation and discussion. I thought Mr. Jackson was a great speaker. He was very entertaining, didn't pull punches, and very knowledgeable. I'm glad I went. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 2904 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:42 pm: | |
^ did he share any information that we haven't read in the paper yet? |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 359 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:15 pm: | |
I don't recall hearing anything new, but I could be wrong. He did say that the recent finance situation is slowing growth. Until folks can sell their current homes, they can't just move downtown. He said that when home market improves, watch out. BTW, it was a full house. |
Eric Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 1017 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:52 am: | |
Anyone care to summarize what Mr. Jackson said? |
Lifeinmontage Member Username: Lifeinmontage
Post Number: 26 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 1:11 am: | |
I'm interested as well in hearing what Mr. Jackson said (as I am out of state and could not attend). I'm curious as to what he said about the "train station" Fishtoes2000 mentioned (I'm assuming MCS). Could Matty be offering a fair price or a development plan that doesn't involve somebody else's money? Not likely. . . |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 4086 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 3:10 am: | |
Sad that I missed it. I got to town too late, but at least I still saw the new DIA. Info on Jackson, please! |
Tompage Member Username: Tompage
Post Number: 44 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 6:41 am: | |
Re the train station, MCS, Mr. Jackson was not optimistic, saying he's not in the business of preserving ruins. Though he said he's willing to listen to workable proposals for MCS, he was pretty clear that his opinion is that the MCS should be torn down. This was the only negative part of his presentation. |
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn
Post Number: 654 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 11:15 am: | |
someone should sen him the memo that MCS is one of the most beautiful and magnificent buildings ever built in detroit... is still standing... and visited by more tourists daily than the historical museum... (seriously... ever go inside... there are always about 10-15 suburban white kids in there... |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 360 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 11:21 am: | |
I should add Mr. Jackson did call for greater code enforcement and fine collection. He said if you have a building with broken windows, you need to fix them or sell your building to someone who will. This was the stick they used for the lower Woodward facade improvement program prior to the Super Bowl. The carrots were facade grants. He said it was one of the most successful programs in terms of real, long-term impact within Detroit. This carrot and stick approach encouraged additional investments behind the facades. The sample photo in his presentation was Cliff Bell's. |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 361 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 11:32 am: | |
quote:someone should sen him the memo that MCS is one of the most beautiful and magnificent buildings ever built in detroit He probably wouldn't disagree with you. He's taken trains from the MCS back in the day. He's toured it in its more recent state. Having a working, usable building is his highest priority. It trumps preservation, but that's not to say he's against preservation. The key is finding a workable business and financial solution that restores the MCS and puts it back into service. He just doesn't see that right now, as Tom mentioned. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 417 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:15 pm: | |
So can we all get a summary of everything he said? |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 362 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 1:37 pm: | |
One more thing, there will be an additional announcement from Dan Gilbert "in about a month." |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 419 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 1:43 pm: | |
"the latest with the East Riverfront, West Riverfront, Campus Martius, Lower Woodward Corridor, Rock Financial, Book/Cadillac, Hudson's Block, Lafayette Bldg., Old Federal Reserve Bldg., Fort/Shelby Bldg., UA/Statler site, etc.;" What did he say about these things? |
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field
Post Number: 839 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 1:48 pm: | |
One more thing, there will be an additional announcement from Dan Gilbert "in about a month." I'll expect to hear something sometime in 2009. These timelines are rarely, if ever, adhered to. |
Lifeinmontage Member Username: Lifeinmontage
Post Number: 32 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 3:27 pm: | |
"Re the train station, MCS, Mr. Jackson was not optimistic, saying he's not in the business of preserving ruins. Though he said he's willing to listen to workable proposals for MCS, he was pretty clear that his opinion is that the MCS should be torn down." "He said if you have a building with broken windows, you need to fix them or sell your building to someone who will." Good, it is about time someone stood up to Matty and played some hardball instead of kissing his ass because he's holding hostage one of the city's great architectural marvels. |
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 2633 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 11:13 pm: | |
quote:Anyone care to summarize what Mr. Jackson said? He said he was sorry for wasting so much money over the past few years. In future, all of his projects will be financed by selling Little Ceasers pizza kits. He also promised to return all of those paychecks that he didn't really earn and to tell his staff to stop trying to convince people that are trapped in an elevator that they don't need any help. Oh, and he also said that the mid-rise apartment building that he promised would be built on the Statler-Hilton site really will happen soon. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 420 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 11:41 am: | |
haha, thats funny. But really, summary? |