Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1886 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 8:09 pm: | |
just passed there, lots of trucks, a spotlight being shown on the 5-6th floor and judging by the flashlights, firefigheters up there as well |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 3183 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 8:13 pm: | |
ya know, that building would be perfect for jumpers - I wonder if anyone has |
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 374 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:21 pm: | |
so what happened? |
Mr_onion Member Username: Mr_onion
Post Number: 215 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:27 pm: | |
filming a movie i think |
Maddog Member Username: Maddog
Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 11:43 pm: | |
There was a small rubbish fire on the 3rd floor. it was an upgraded response do to building size extra Engine & Truck. |
Exmotowner Member Username: Exmotowner
Post Number: 433 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 1:21 pm: | |
Something more to add to the demise of Detroit's poster child ruin! :-( |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 10895 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 3:01 pm: | |
Let it burn down. Keep the fire trucks and fire engines available to places that are either habitable (is that a word) or near ones that are. I wonder if any fires in other places had a slower response time due to the additional attention for this neglected hulk. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 3989 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 3:01 pm: | |
We don't need no water... |
Chris_rohn Member Username: Chris_rohn
Post Number: 352 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 3:07 pm: | |
...lets have a beer instead! |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 385 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 6:18 pm: | |
It doesn't sound like the structural soundness of the building was affected. Still, it's unfortunate that this happens. If these incidents continue to happen, there will be more and more calls to demolish the structure, which I really hope does not happen. I recognize that right now there is no realistic rehabilitation plan, but I really hate to see this building die. |
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 2198 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 8:24 pm: | |
"Let it burn down." MCS ? How the hell would that thing even burn down ? It would just make a stinky smoky mess for awhile. |
Ventura67 Member Username: Ventura67
Post Number: 164 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 8:25 pm: | |
The MCS burning down? No way! Light a hundred bonfires on each floor, don't put them out, let them burn for a month straight and you'll still be left with a building that is structurally sound, maybe just a little darker in color. You could probably even fly a passenger airplane loaded with jet fuel into the side of it and just watch the pulverized plane shoot through the windows on the other side, leaving the building intact and sound. I agree, though, call the fire trucks off and let it gain some more character! |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 715 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 8:57 pm: | |
let it burn, pyros eh, how about controlled demolition? |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 10896 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:13 pm: | |
Point was that DFD should not risk their lives, efforts or the homes of residents to put out a fire in a structure the owner does not give a shit about. Until Maroun does something DFD should not be wasting resources or endangering firefighters since a fire there will have no ramifications on any other buildings. |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 3185 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:17 pm: | |
Wouldn't want to give Maroun grounds for suing the city, would you? As long as he pays the taxes the city is obligated to service his properties, though they could also enforce codes and regulations, too. |
Patrick Member Username: Patrick
Post Number: 5211 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:25 pm: | |
In the words of Rasputin...tear dat schitt down. |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 1490 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:36 pm: | |
I have an idea for a new show on Mtv: Pimp my Train Station! |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 10897 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:39 pm: | |
quote:Wouldn't want to give Maroun grounds for suing the city, would you? Do you think that Maroun would want to piss off Kwame and his mom. Once that relationship ends he is much, much, much worse off. |
Dan Member Username: Dan
Post Number: 1471 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:43 pm: | |
I can’t believe people have so many negative feelings about that building. Its empty, but it is a work of art. Why tear it down? We will certainly never have something that magnificent in its place. We should not bitch to tear it down; we should bitch about the lack of security. Or that it has been allowed to rot and crumble, meanwhile its owner sits on a fortune, and doesn’t spend shit to protect it. The building should have basic protection from the elements, and vandals, it is part of our shared history, and it is irreplaceable. |
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 1048 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 5:29 am: | |
^ Yeah, what he said. I live by it, drive by it nearly daily and still find it awe-inspiring. |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 387 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:49 am: | |
I agree, Dan and Rhymes. I don't live in Detroit, but I still find the building inspiring, and worth saving. I do acknowledge that the city will have no money to do anything about it anytime soon, but the hope is that a private developer might recognize some kind of value in the site and at least preserve some of it. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 10921 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 11:26 am: | |
quote:but the hope is that a private developer might recognize some kind of value in the site and at least preserve some of it. It is owned by a private citizen so the city can't shop it to private developers. The city is also spending resources to put out fires in a building the owner does not care about. If the overworked DFD resources could have went to stop a home or business fire just a few minutes quicker it would be much more beneficial for the owners of those places. Until Maroun does even minor mantenance the city should fine him on a daily basis and list this property as lower priority when it comes to DFD responding to the numerous calls they face. I find quick response to fires in inhabited homes much more inspiring than limited city resources sent to a property whose owner cares nothing of the building. Same would go for any neglected structure in the city that doesn't potentially cause other structures to go up in flames. It appears that the city cares more about the building than the owner. |
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 377 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:09 pm: | |
quote:It appears that the city cares more about the building than the owner. Not really sure this is true, but even if it were--can you blame them?
http://flickr.com/photos/urbantiki/
http://flickr.com/photos/gsgeorge/
http://flickr.com/photos/71288712@N00/
http://flickr.com/photos/statlerhotel/ |
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle
Post Number: 270 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:16 pm: | |
It'd kill to have enough money to at least mothball the place. |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1887 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:48 pm: | |
i was told matty owns this very recent fire victim too http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/14774988/detail.html |
Southen Member Username: Southen
Post Number: 361 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 1:09 pm: | |
From a week ago... http://www.flickr.com/photos/s outhen/2074838744/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/s outhen/2075428539/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/s outhen/2077531992/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/s outhen/2084660107/ |
Billk Member Username: Billk
Post Number: 180 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 1:19 pm: | |
They said on the news that a homeless person set a fire in an oil drum. The fire was contained to the oil drum. |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 388 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 5:13 pm: | |
Hi Ryan, Awesome pics! I am always thrilled to see new ones, though I'm sad to hear the condition of the building has gotten worse than ever before. Were you able to bring in your tripod this time? I hope to see the inside myself some day! |
Southen Member Username: Southen
Post Number: 362 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 6:20 pm: | |
Yup, I had my tripod with me. Its a must when you go into a place like MCS. |
Stromberg2 Member Username: Stromberg2
Post Number: 56 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:14 pm: | |
Gsgeorge and Southen....Wow!! There are really no other words! Stromberg2 |
Chitown_guy Member Username: Chitown_guy
Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:27 pm: | |
When I was in Detroit a couple of months ago I have absolutely amazed by this building. It is an awesome site. Detroit should be ashamed of itself for letting this treasure sit and rot. I am sure there is political garbage to go along with it. The building as so much potential. Why has not anything been done? An office, lofts, hotel/casino, mall, anything? I am seriously surprised that someone has not tried to develope it. Hopefully one day it will be. |
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto
Post Number: 4531 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 2:21 am: | |
"Why has not anything been done?" Because a man named Manny Maroun owns it, and being Manny Maroun means being able to do whatever you want, as long as you don't forget to contribute to the Kilpatricks' war chest. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 3877 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 8:13 am: | |
i keep reading the title as "Mucho fire trucks at the MC5" aren't there laws about dilapidated buildings that would allow the city to seize the thing |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1890 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 9:30 am: | |
quote:aren't there laws about dilapidated buildings that would allow the city to seize the thing geeze, what part of the mayor and the building owner are in each other's pockets don't you get? (Message edited by gravitymachine on December 06, 2007) |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 389 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 10:57 am: | |
I suppose the city could condemn the building. In that case, though, demolition would most likely result, and most of us do not want to see that, either. |
Billk Member Username: Billk
Post Number: 183 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 2:53 pm: | |
I heard there's not enough dynamite in the state of Michigan to blow this building up. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 4028 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 2:58 pm: | |
If Corkown really started to come back. that would do more to raise the chances of something happening with this building than anything else. |