  Tarkus Member Username: Tarkus Post Number: 430 Registered: 04-2006 |
The hot rumor from Rosenthal at CBS Sports is, Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera for Inge, A. Miller or C. Maybin. Sounds good to me. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 771 Registered: 11-2006 |
interesting...im not sure who i would rather have in the future - miller or maybin | ||
Blksoul_x Member Username: Blksoul_x Post Number: 102 Registered: 06-2007 |
Personally, I would not involve Maybin in any trade offers! | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 772 Registered: 11-2006 |
dombrowski had been adamant before in stating that maybin would not be involved in any trades.... i wonder if his poor showing last year changed this? although I wouldnt think so... | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 520 Registered: 11-2006 |
Interesting. The USA Today has an article that owners and GM are now moving less toward trading prospects for established stars with inflated salaries. I doubt Dombrowski would want to go that direction (trade Miller or Maybin). One thing about Maybin: His great value to the Tigs OR ANY team is as a CF. Tigs have everyone's favorite, Granderson, at that position. Maybin could be traded because of Granderson. | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 1502 Registered: 02-2006 |
I don't buy it. We've already given away our other star young outfielder...I don't see giving away Maybin as well. emu_stve...one of the two, probably Granderson, will move to LF when Maybin is ready for the majors. (Message edited by focusonthed on December 04, 2007) | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 2351 Registered: 01-2005 |
Damn! If only Inge could hit better. He's one of the best defensive players I've seen in years. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 3977 Registered: 10-2003 |
I like Inge, I don't really want to see him go. But he often forgets his bat. | ||
1805 Member Username: 1805 Post Number: 85 Registered: 03-2007 |
Willis AND Cabrera for Inge, Miller OR Maybin? No, no. Bogus speculation. Inge, Miller doesn't balance that trade and nor does Inge, Maybin. Wills and Cabrera's stock worth much more than that. It would take Miller, Maybin for the both of those studs. Or at least a higher value starting player of ours and either one of our top prospects. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 521 Registered: 11-2006 |
My take: Dombrowski and Ilitch trying to win a WS in '08. Tigs will not contend in '10 and later after Rogers, Pudge, Sheff, etc. are done. Miller + MiLB prospect(s) for Haren would be "let's win in '08 and not worry about '10 and later now." Tigs are a front line P from contending for the WS. Don't need more hitting. P.S. I still hate moving Granderson to LF. | ||
Dds Member Username: Dds Post Number: 471 Registered: 10-2006 |
If the rumor is from Ken Rosenthal from CBS Sports, I say B.S. Ken Rosenthal from Fox Sports, on the other hand, has a little more credibility. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s tory/7525396 | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1663 Registered: 01-2006 |
I'm not hearing that Inge is part of this picture. Do not look for the Marlins to give up a quite good lefty pitcher and a GREAT young hitter in exchange for two guys who are all "could be" and absolutely no "is" or "has." Willis/Cabrera for Miller/Maybin? That will not happen. | ||
401don Member Username: 401don Post Number: 112 Registered: 11-2007 |
Rosenthal says Maybin and Miller "likely are among the targets" This is total hot stove speculation. It won't happen because the Tigers can't pay 10-15 million at every position. Inge is a solid no. 9 hitter at about 6 million per year. A lot of money was invested just drafting MIller and Maybin so that you have good young players cheap for at least 5-6 years. Now you're going to give those big bonuses away to acquire talent that is similar but will cost a fortune right away? The Tigers are not the Yankees or Sox. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 522 Registered: 11-2006 |
how old is Ilitch? Does he want to win in '08 at any cost ($ or future stars)? | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 774 Registered: 11-2006 |
76 or 77 I think? Their payroll is already over $100 million for the first time in franchise history. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 523 Registered: 11-2006 |
I thought 77. 77 year olds don't think in terms of 10 year plans. At that age, there are no guarantees. | ||
Emuaaron Member Username: Emuaaron Post Number: 30 Registered: 07-2005 |
i think trading Miller and Maybin for Cabrera and Willis makes sense for both sides in every way except $$ on the part of the tigers. I would love the tigers to make this trade, I just don't think they are willing to acquire that much salary in return. Hopefully i'm wrong, we end up with my favorite non-tiger in the bigs (Willis) and we win 3 World Series' in a row. | ||
401don Member Username: 401don Post Number: 113 Registered: 11-2007 |
With the addition of Renteria, and a big "IF" Ordonez, Sheffield and Guillen stay healthy all year, the Tigers line-up is better than the Indians. They have the horses now to win the division. To win the playoffs and world series you need two aces pitching well. That means Verlander and one of Bonderman/Rogers need to be peaking come playoff time. I'll take my chances with that rather than mortgage the future. In baseball, with good drafting and a decent payroll, you can stay near the top for a long time - unlike basketball where you need to rebuild. Granderson is an excellent all-around ballplayer but I remember watching the incredible raw power and speed that Leflore and Gibson had when they arrived. I see the same potential in Maybin. I would hate to trade that away for one shot at a World Series. | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 1503 Registered: 02-2006 |
I just don't see Maybin being traded, and without him, a blockbuster deal for other young talent (Cabrera/Willis) is dead. Maybin has repeatedly been the most untouchable of untouchables. This position had to have been solidified with the trading of Gorkys Hernandez. As it is, the Tigers OF has 1 young star in CF, one offensive MVP but likely future defensive liability in RF, and WHAT in LF? Platoons of utility guys (as much as I love Thames) aren't "the future". If Maybin is traded for something we don't NEED (I have nothing against Inge), I will be pissed. I may forget my anger if we get "that hardware" as Rasheed calls it, but hey. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 775 Registered: 11-2006 |
Apparently its a done deal.... Maybin, Miller, and 4 prospects for Willis and Cabrera.... its on all the major sights now | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 525 Registered: 11-2006 |
ESPN is reporting that we'll get Cabrera and Willis. We trade our farm system to win in '08. 6 going from Detroit and 2 coming to Detroit. (Message edited by emu_steve on December 04, 2007) | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 777 Registered: 11-2006 |
gosh I dont know about this.... we better win the whole damn thing next year... Inge at short? or Cabrera? | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 526 Registered: 11-2006 |
Who would want to face: Guillen, Polanco, Renteria, Cabrerra, Granderson, Maggs, Sheff and Pudge. Where's the out???? And pitching: Verlander, Bonderman, Rogers, Willis, and Robertson. Who needs a closer if the 'games aren't close  '? | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 337 Registered: 01-2007 |
All but done. It's on the Tiger's website. | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 3158 Registered: 11-2003 |
Wow, cabrera is a huge pick up, check out his career stats, .300 hitter with 30 homers! | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 1047 Registered: 11-2005 |
Gammons says it IS a done deal with Maybin and Miller among SIX prospects dealt to Florida. | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 3163 Registered: 11-2003 |
These guys are proven, maybin and miller and others are not. Also, Willis will be 26 in january, Cabrera is only 24, so they are pretty young themselves | ||
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100 Post Number: 1509 Registered: 12-2006 |
The other trade today is being slightly overshadowed by this blockbuster deal... http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/ news/article.jsp?ymd=20071204& content_id=2317268&vkey=news_d et&fext=.jsp&c_id=det In all honesty though, Miller and Willis cancel out in age and we do have Granderson so giving up Maybin is not as big of a deal as one might think. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 778 Registered: 11-2006 |
we are set for next year for sure... They are going to have to focus on rebuilding back the farm system though... if you look at the additions to our team over the years, much of that was made possible because our farm system was finally built back up after years of neglect... Ill be interested to see who the other 4 prospects are, but overall I LOVE our chances for 08 | ||
Rugbyman Member Username: Rugbyman Post Number: 163 Registered: 06-2005 |
Dallas Trahern and Mike Rabelo were mentioned, but I think the deal is for the four other players to be named later. I feel good about this one, but I'm wondering if Miller isn't going to turn out to be the next D-Train in a season or two. (Message edited by Rugbyman on December 04, 2007) |
