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Tiorted
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NYT: The 53 Places to Go in 2008

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12 /09/travel/09where.html?pagewa nted=all

40. DETROIT
Historically crime-ridden Detroit may not spring to mind as a hot tourist spot, but don't tell that to the city's bullish hoteliers. Newcomers include the MGM Grand Detroit, the MotorCity Casino Hotel in an old Wonder Bread factory and the historic Book Cadillac Hotel, being transformed into a Westin. Plus, the Detroit Institute of Arts just reopened after a $158 million renovation.
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 12:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for posting that. We are in impressive company; Detroit is, at the very least, an important place.
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Jonnyfive
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I dont like the tone of that description. It sounds like we quaintly placed hotel rooms into a bread factory, which is a bit misleading. It also sounds like the DIA had been long gone and just reopened.
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Hardhat
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's cut to the chase.
40. DETROIT

Historically crime-ridden Detroit may not spring to mind as a hot tourist spot, but don't tell that to the city's bullish hoteliers. Newcomers include the MGM Grand Detroit (www.mgmgranddetroit.com), the MotorCity Casino Hotel (www.motorcitycasino.com) in an old Wonder Bread factory and the historic Book Cadillac Hotel, being transformed into a Westin (www.westinbookcadillac.com). Plus, the Detroit Institute of Arts (www.dia.org) just reopened after a $158 million renovation.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not bad, it's the 3rd ranked American city on the list.
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Gazhekwe
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, in the US we are just behind South Beach and Mid Beach Miami and San Francisco!
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Lilpup
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and Death Valley

it's a rather exotic list

Detroit - going exotic without a passport
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Also note that the DIA is one of the headlining photographs featured at the top of the article. That's a good sign too.


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Gsgeorge
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quote:

I dont like the tone of that description. It sounds like we quaintly placed hotel rooms into a bread factory, which is a bit misleading. It also sounds like the DIA had been long gone and just reopened.



Don't be stupid. All the descriptions are written with the usual NYT elitist style. This is great publicity for Detroit. I mean, we're right below San Francisco. How often do Detroit and San Francisco both get mentioned in favorable terms in the same article?? The writer has pointed out some great things happening in the city and it couldn't be better.
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Jonnyfive
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didnt actually read the link last night. Plus I was a little overserved when I responded.
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Gsgeorge
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For the record the NYT has probably given Detroit the most favorable press out of all the major American media outlets. Of course a lot of their articles start with descriptions of Detroit's decay--but they quickly counter that image by devoting the rest of the article to the good things happening here.

A small sampling of some great NYT articles about the city, its museums, its architecture, and its people:

On the Road to Modern America
Great article about Modernist architecture in Detroit and Chicago. Detroit wins.

In Detroit; Shaking Off the Rust of the Urban Core

36 Hours in Detroit
"AT first glance, Detroit still looks like a city under siege. But these days the scene is not one of crime; it is one of construction."

Seeing the Seediness, and Celebrating it
Enthusiastic review of MOCAD.
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Mackinaw
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They said that Detroit is one of the places you need to visit, right now. That seems to imply that the crime is not as bad as you think. Yes I don't like the word crime-ridden because it suggests that the entire city is such, but there was also the word historically in there which connotes that this is increasingly in the past. Their ranking speaks for itself. I think people that read that and want to visit another American city this year will take the Times seriously.
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Jimaz
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quote:

Not bad, it's the 3rd ranked American city on the list.

Is it a ranked list? If so, New York is at 53rd place!

Great article!
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Gannon
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Anyone living in NYC will know that any busy place in a crime-ridden town is safer, generally. (depending upon the crime, of course, and most of 'em are pretty good at defending their wallets and space, so they'd never be afraid of little ol' Detroit's reputation!)

Dig this...what an unexpectedly cool shot-in-the-arm for the Spirit of Detroit, just before his make-over.
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Is it a ranked list? If so, New York is at 53rd place!



Well, New Yorkers are undoubtedly arrogant... but what good what it have been to put themselves at the top of the list of places to visit in their hometown newspaper?

I'm amused that Chicago isn't on the list.
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Detroitrise
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Yeah, at least the list was non-bias. Usually Chiacgo and NYC would borh make it into the top 10 of any list.
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Gsgeorge
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think it's a ranked list, its just a list of places that are not commonly visited that should be visited. Laos, Tehran, Detroit--these are places that are not commonly on travel lists. The idea is to bring exposure to under-appreciated or under-traveled areas.
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Whether or not it's a "commonly visited" list or not, I think it is a great triumph for the city. The Times have been quite the Detroit cheerleaders lately. They must really be buying into the whole "Detroit is the new Williamsburg" mantra.
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This is a huge step, that there are places that a national newspaper would notice

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