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Johnlodge
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20071204/NEW S01/712040319/1001/NEWS

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Four Detroit high schools are among 1,591 public high schools rated among the best in the country according to rankings released by U.S. News & World Report and School Evaluation Services, an education data research company.
Renaissance High received a silver medal. Cass Technical High, Davis Aerospace Technical High and Detroit High School for the Fine & Performing Arts received bronze medals.

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Iheartthed
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 11:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's great.
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Iheartthed
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No one had anything else to say?
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Toog05
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 3:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cass Tech class of '05 baby!
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Mackinaw
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Goes to show that motivated students/concerned parents in DPS can seek out schools that are not only adequate but will permit the student to excel.

From my knowledge, there is a pretty substantial pipeline from Cass Tech to U-M.
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Mayor_sekou
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 4:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cass Tech students are everywhere 6/10 black students at State I swear are former Cass kids. Meanwhile I can count us Murray Wright students on one hand. But this is good news that is not that surprising to people who have been dealing with these schools.
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Rb336
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Cass has had the honor before, good to see 4 more. with all the consistently negative crap out there about detroit schools, this should have gotten MUCH more play than what I saw
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Bobj
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 4:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is great!
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English
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 4:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HOORAY!
Go Renaissance! (Class of 1995)
Go Davis Aerospace! (Staff, 1999)
Go Cass Tech! (Staff, 2001-2005)
...and "Go King!" (Just for being the first PSL State Champions!)

Glad the nation's finding out what many, many universities, employers, and especially GRADUATES already know!
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Toog05
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 4:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

English, you were a staff member at Cass 2001-2005, who are you?
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English
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Post your email & I'll contact you. :-)
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Toog05
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toog03@hotmail.com
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English
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You've got mail! Always nice to meet a Technician!
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Popcanman55
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English would you happen to have been Mr. payne's student teacher in 99? Did you also attend Bates Academy?
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English
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I sure did attend Bates! And yes, Mr. Payne was my mentor (and former teacher @ Ren!)

Are you a Bates or Davis alum?
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Trstar
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DPS has some good schools and many good students. Its just that DPS is wildly inconsistent. Plus the press won't run this with much fanfare, because it doesn't fit into the "DPS is crap dogma".

Often a little acknowledgment and encouragement can add to changing the attitudes in this region. Thats why I so glad that a DPS team finally won a State football championship.

Anyway its the parents that makes the student and the school, not the other way around. Congrats Parents.

Obligatory CT shout out here.
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Crystal
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 8:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Mom is a proud graduate of Cass Tech, class of 1948.


Victoria Johnson '48
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Hamtragedy
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 9:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would you be referring to Mr. Payne at Ren who loved Diana Ross so much he put a cutout of his face in a magazine shot with Ms. ross, which he kept under the glass on his desk? Or how 'bout "we love vocab" button on his lapel? RHS '85
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Durango
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Hamtradedy,

I was in the class of '86 at RHS. I was in Mr.Payne's junior English class in the basement of the old building. I remember his obsession with Diana Ross and the daily vocabulary drills. Mr. Payne and Mr. Arbogast in Latin class were very helpful with the development of my vocabulary.
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Hamtragedy
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I graded your papers and checked off the extra credit for daily use of the vocab words of the week....in the basement. Also the year before, did the same thing for the 84's who were juniors or seniors, only on the first floor. My brother gradyated in 89. Also a vocab snob.

As I recall, Cass was rated one the top 5 schools in the country in 1984. I think the extremely broad curricula had a lot to do with that. Several friends that went to Cass and grew up in Grandmont never held back an opportunity to rub it in some RHS kids face how good they thought they were, and they were everything from singers, theater people and photographers, to auto mechanics. . Still in contact with several Technicians and RHS people from 80's. My father's a Technician from 1960, so I caught that same business at home too......
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Durango
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Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 12:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hamtradedy,

Now, I remember Mr. Payne always had an assistant in his classes who sat at a table to the right of his desk. I had several friends who went to Cass and they would always boast about the history of Cass the school's tradition. The reality was many of them didn't pass the test to get into Renaissance at the time. I am still in contact with several people from Renaissance and Cass as well. Renaissance and Cass were great schools at the time and they are still good schools today. I am glad to find another person who has some positive memories of Detroit and Renaissance. I am sorry I don't remember your name.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 12:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba is a Cass Tech. Printer, Class of 1959.
At that time, Cass Tech. had 5,000 students, from every corner of Detroit, including the Chinese who lived so close it was their neighborhood high school. Wing Lee was a Cass Tech. Printer jjaba remembers.
jjaba.
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Durango
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Jjaba,

It looks like you're burning the midnight oil in the midwest. I am currently riding out a snow storm in Denver. I wish Renaissance had a history as long and rich as that of Cass Tech. I better start a Renaissance trend to see what we have amassed year to date.
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Popcanman55
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English Yes I am both a Bates and Davis alum. I was actually in Mr. Payne's class when you were student teaching. Lets just say our mothers worked together at Bates mine still does. I believe you also when to school with my older brother and maybe sister.
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Irish_mafia
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That's great!
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Leoqueen
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Leoqueen is a PROUD CASS TECH ALUMNA, Class of 1972!! My daughter is a current Technician, Class of 2010! And a shout out to my Aunt Etta in heaven, Cass class of 1929, who just passed away at age 96....
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Jt1
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Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 12:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No surprise on who is not commenting on this thread.

Congrats to the students and teachers of these four outstanding DPS schools.
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Hamtragedy
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jjaba, I'm an avid reader of your posts. Hamtragedy, on the River to Greenfield, transfer to dexter (@outer drive) or just walk
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Hamtragedy
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jjaba, I'm an avid reader of your posts. Great grandfather drove the interurban to Mt. clemens. Grandfather took him lunches at the concord yard, rode for free. Hamtragedy, on the River to Greenfield, transfer to dexter (@outer drive) or just walk.
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Scruffy
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Does anyone know what the make-up of the student body is at the School for Fine and Performing Arts? Do they allow students from outside the district?
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And of course let me chime in CASS TECH c/0 1983.

Congrats to all of the schools that have been honored! GO DPS
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Jt1
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Do they allow students from outside the district?



When they opened the new place they had expected a pretty high number of students from the suburbs. Not sure how the numbers came in in that regard.
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Hey there, Popcanman! I know exactly who you are! I brought a number of my undergrads to Bates last month to see "excellence in urban education". I saw your mom (although I'm not sure she recognized me). She says you're all doing well... great to chat with a fellow Bates alumni. (If you haven't already, join our Yahoo! group!)

And yes, Mr. Payne was wonderful to more than 4 decades of students. I was lucky enough to have him as my student teaching supervisor during the last semester of his career. However, the last I heard, he had taken ill and is now living with his daughter in Chicago (Allison Payne, a WGN anchorwoman). I'd love to send holiday greetings to him, but need to get the address from the contact.
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A fantastic accomplishment for the schools to be sure.

But they are accomplishments that need to be tempered by the methodology.

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We then factored in the percentage of economically disadvantaged students (who tend to score lower) enrolled at the school to find which schools were performing better than their statistical expectations.



If the first test was passed - i.e. modified for statistical fact that economically disadvantaged students performed worse, then it is on the the second test:


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For those schools that made it past this first step, the second step determined whether the school's least-advantaged students (black, Hispanic, and low-income) were performing better than average for similar students in the state.

We compared each school's math and reading proficiency rates for disadvantaged students with the statewide results for these disadvantaged student groups and then selected schools that were performing better than this state average.



Ultimately, the methodology, it appears, is trying to level the playing field vs. looking strictly at the top performing high schools in the country.

Not taking anything away from the Detroit high schools that made the list - but it does not mean that Bad Axe High School actually performs better than Grosse Pointe South.
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Parkguy
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"Ultimately, the methodology, it appears, is trying to level the playing field vs. looking strictly at the top performing high schools in the country."

This kind of statistical analysis is designed to show which schools do better than would be expected given the conditions they operate in. Schools are often compared this way to show which ones give the most "bang for the buck," to look at best practices, and so on.
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Goblue
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Congrats to current faculty...and every grad of the four named schools...from a Denby TAR '59...if only my school were still one of the top schools in the city.
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Jaja
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CASS TECH 1963 grad..... I remember back then some ranking that put Cass Tech second
(or maybe third) in the country behind the Bronx High School Science...
A sad note... last week one of the best Cass Tech chemistry teachers... Harold Merritt passed away...
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Do not forget to mention CMA, which also received a Bronze ranking. I am a proud alumnus of Communication and Media Art's Class of 2005! Alright, maybe DPS will stop trying to shut it down now.

(Message edited by Young_detroiter on December 18, 2007)
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English,

I went to Bates as well (first graduating class). Are from the old guard or the new? :-) Did you attend the reunion last year?

Class of '88 Cass Tech!

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