 
Spidergirl
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Username: Spidergirl
Post Number: 320
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 1:42 pm: |    |
Who is responsible for salting the sidewalks in front of abandoned buildings in the CBD? Is is the owner's? I'm guessing not the city's?
This morning I watched as a bunch of people walking to work tried not to slip and fall in front of the old Kresge building at 1201 Woodward.
Do we all need to buy those slip-on ice grips??? |
Gsgeorge
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Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 414
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 1:46 pm: | |
quote:Who is responsible for salting the sidewalks in front of abandoned buildings in the CBD?
HA! That's a good one. |
Detroitrise
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Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1037
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 1:47 pm: | |
I figure it's the city of Detroit's responsibility to salt the streets and sidewalks. They clean them up just fine. The Financial district was all clear. I guess there just being spotty and lazy with keeping downtown clean and not icy (only picking the hot spots). |
Diehard
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Username: Diehard
Post Number: 217
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 1:49 pm: | |
Yeah, good luck with that. I walked to the office from the bus stop VERY carefully this morning and made sure I avoided the big offenders.
Don't worry, it'll melt by April. |
Rax
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Username: Rax
Post Number: 43
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:11 pm: | |
I believe its Roger Penske's responsibility. |
Informed
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Username: Informed
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:17 pm: | |
I should hope that adults in this city or anywhere would be able to get from point A to point B without falling down what ever the season is. How about take care when walking and get over your "let somebody else take over" fever. |
Cub
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Username: Cub
Post Number: 97
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:37 pm: | |
What!•••••• Welcome, but what are you talking about? Homeowners and business owners are responsible for clearing the walkways in front of their properties.
(Message edited by cub on December 10, 2007) |
Mackinaw
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Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 4137
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:38 pm: | |
Informed, that's harsh. Where are you right now? It's pretty damn bad where I am. It's an extremely thin coat of glare ice and the conditions are unpredictable. A lot of treated sidewalks are fine but if you get too close to the curb it's still icy. Plus with conditions alternating between treated and untreated every 40-50 feet you get caught off guard. In Ann Arbor this morning I had to walk in the street or across lawns to get to class. A number of people are slipping/falling and it's ugly...and yes, there are liabilities for property owners.
I pity the person who didn't know it was freezing rain and walked out our apartment house door and fell on our untreated steps (with an ice-covered railing with which to hold on to). Thanks, landlord.
I don't believe CoD is responsible for downtown sidewalks. Why would they be. Even in cities where they plow your sidewalk the property owner is responsible for making it passable and ice-free.
More freezing rain tomorrow! |
Gistok
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Username: Gistok
Post Number: 5869
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:44 pm: | |
LOL... looks like Informed has never been to a hospital emergency room... they're loaded with people who didn't heed his words of wisdom... and fell... |
Pffft
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Username: Pffft
Post Number: 1423
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:48 pm: | |
Most of us could take a fall or two on an icy sidewalk and just bear some ugly bruises, but think of the elderly people who can't shut themselves in for three months. A fall could be devastating for an older person, leading to broken bones and disability.
Try a little empathy. |
Johnlodge
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Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 4104
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:51 pm: | |
I can say this, you will always have an enjoyable walk in front of MY house. Once you pass my property line, however, you're on your own! 
A couple houses down from us, this lady planted all these tall bee-attracted flowers along both sides of the sidewalk this summer. There was no way through! I called it "Bee Alley". We would have to detour through the street on our walks. |
Gsgeorge
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Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 422
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:53 pm: | |
yeah just walk on the street. people do it all the time. |
Lilpup
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Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 3207
Registered: 06-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 4:31 pm: | |
Winter's not over until I fall at least once on an icy walk. |
Lukabottle
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Username: Lukabottle
Post Number: 122
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 10:06 pm: | |
Sometimes the City fines the owners. Mike Higgins got popped for that several years ago. |
Mackinaw
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Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 4141
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 10:11 pm: | |
They absolutely should. It's $$ and its the right thing to do. |