  Rogerjab Member Username: Rogerjab Post Number: 62 Registered: 06-2005 |
Must of been at least 200 people marching in downtown Royal Oak for an end to the War tonight. Peter Werbe was in front of me he told me WWJ was supose to be covering it. Generally we got a real good welcoming response from the sound of all the honks, anyone else make it or hear about it? | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 1704 Registered: 07-2004 |
No. Big media wants you to shop, not protest. Maybe they'll run a below-the-fold story titled, "Protestors Urge Peace With Terrorists." | ||
Jjw Member Username: Jjw Post Number: 506 Registered: 10-2005 |
The sound of all the honks??? | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 2447 Registered: 01-2005 |
Which war? | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 856 Registered: 01-2006 |
Yup, honking on a horn sure will end a war. They probably just wanted to get you out of the way. There are many ways to actively get out and urge an end to war, but standing in a group with signs saying "honk for peace" is not the way to do it. DISCLAIMER: The above is just my two cents. I am not at all saying you do not have the right to do so, or that I am against your right to do it. I just dont see the benefit. | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 1705 Registered: 07-2004 |
Study: 38 Percent Of People Not Actually Entitled To Their Opinion The Onion May 23, 2007 CHICAGO—In a surprising refutation of the conventional wisdom on opinion entitlement, a study conducted by the University of Chicago's School for Behavioral Science concluded that more than one-third of the U.S. population is neither entitled nor qualified to have opinions. "On topics from evolution to the environment to gay marriage to immigration reform, we found that many of the opinions expressed were so off-base and ill-informed that they actually hurt society by being voiced," said chief researcher Professor Mark Fultz, who based the findings on hundreds of telephone, office, and dinner-party conversations compiled over a three-year period. "While people have long asserted that it takes all kinds, our research shows that American society currently has a drastic oversupply of the kinds who don't have any good or worthwhile thoughts whatsoever. We could actually do just fine without them." In 2002, Fultz's team shook the academic world by conclusively proving the existence of both bad ideas during brainstorming and dumb questions during question-and-answer sessions. http://www.theonion.com/conten t/news_briefs/study_38_percent _of_people | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 322 Registered: 06-2007 |
Here I go, about to stir things up and anger people again, but there are few people I despise more than Werbe. That SOB is one of the most negative people around. If you are conservative, he thinks you are inherently evil. America is a disgrace. The only think I've heard him say anything nice about was Cuba! All this guy does is spew hate about the people he claims are themselves hateful. Otherwise he's protesting things he hates. Absolutely one of the most miserable, depressing people I've heard. | ||
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55 Post Number: 963 Registered: 09-2005 |
Re-read you own post about hateful, miserable people. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 996 Registered: 11-2003 |
"That SOB is one of the most negative people around." I agree. I use to listen to his show about 10-15 years ago. After listening to him for a while you feel like slitting your wrists. In my opinion it's one of the reasons that liberal radio doesn't have much of a voice. A lot of people grow tired of the constant negative tone. | ||
Gmich99 Member Username: Gmich99 Post Number: 258 Registered: 11-2005 |
RJK, I've always found FOX to be uplifting. | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 820 Registered: 07-2007 |
Hpgrmln - i concur I tried to listen to Werbe, very hard to take. I wonder if he influences the whole staff at wrif or if mgmt. agrees with him wholeheartedly. he belongs on error amerika radio. Al Franken is a conservative compared to him. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 4378 Registered: 10-2003 |
It is great to hear that there are folks out there protesting the forgotten war and reminding folks that our over-extended troops are still being sacrificed during this holiday period for someone's personal ego and blunders. Peter Werbe is a great talk show host with his "Nightcall" being the longest running show in Detroit, on the air decades before Air America, Rush Limbaugh and the others. I listen to him frequently and have done so over the years; he is on every Sunday nights starting at 11PM on WRIF 101.9 and now on the web too. He has been a consistent voice of radical dissent who called out the disasterous and criminal war on Iraq long before it started and through out. He is too radical for Air America. If you can't take his truth, switch him off. | ||
Rogerjab Member Username: Rogerjab Post Number: 63 Registered: 06-2005 |
I couldn't agree more Lowell. It was great to see Americans using their right of protest to an illegal action of the Bushco crime family. Americans rarely use their rights anymore, such as protest. As far as Werbe goes I to have listened to him to over the years, not a more level headed or reasoned talk show host around. He is truely a Detroit jewel. For anyone wanting to listen to him on podcast you can now suscribe to his show "nightcall" through Itunes for free through the "White Rose society podcasts" it's great way to catch a voice of reason and not have to stay up till 1am on a Sunday night. One last thing about the peace protest, I never thought a "Peace on Earth" protest would be trashed as much as it has been on this forum, but I guess I'm just confused about the meaning of Christmas, Peace out and a Merry Christmas to All! | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 323 Registered: 06-2007 |
"One last thing about the peace protest, I never thought a "Peace on Earth" protest would be trashed as much as it has been on this forum, but I guess I'm just confused about the meaning of Christmas, Peace out and a Merry Christmas to All!" Not so much the march as the attendant. Christmas is all about peace. Interestingly, it's a religious holiday, and Mr. werbe himself will tell you that he is oppossed to religion. He has had harsh words to say about it. Lots of people hate Bush, too. But the way he seems to vilify ALL people even slightly right of center as if they aren't human is awful extreme. I have listened to his show and have found much of what he has said to be very much inconsistent with the kind of tolerance and acceptance he claims to savor. And he devotes so much time to things that make him angry or things he hates. None of that is peaceful, or representative of Christmas. As far as Limbaugh and Hannity, etc. go, I get the impression a lot of their stuff is played up a bit. They make a good living being syndicated on stations across the country and have to be slightly over the top to continue luring in curious listeners.the Conservatives on WJR seem to be more like entertainers than mere commentators. | ||
Rogerjab Member Username: Rogerjab Post Number: 64 Registered: 06-2005 |
Wow, nice rationalization there. I won't deny that Werbe is against religion. But the statement that he vilifies people to the right of center while Limbaugh and Hannity simply play up their hate spew is hardly an objective observation. Werbe is hardly spewing the hate that the right wing seems so adept at. Just some more regurgitation and nonsense that the other Fauxites repeat, all this while the middle class and poor get flushed down the drain by "fair and balanced" people such as yourself. “When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis | ||
Winstin_o_boogie_iii Member Username: Winstin_o_boogie_iii Post Number: 108 Registered: 02-2007 |
Let's critique the message and not the messenger. The war is wrong, I agree with that. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 518 Registered: 05-2004 |
Sure they weren't marching into the bars? | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 619 Registered: 11-2006 |
Those marchers were excersing their democratic rights to protest peacefully. Wish I would have known about the march. I disagree with the debacle and clusterfuck that has created a devastated Iraq while Americans are having fundraisers to obtain medical care; bridges are collapsing; soldiers are being blown to smithereens for what? The marches and protests in the Detroit metropolitan area are disapointingly small. All Americans should excercise their right to vote. How many of us have the time to research all the complexities and details of the issues? Quality of life, accesibility of social services; unemployment rates so on and so forth are indicitive of whether we should vote for this person or that issue etc. Nightcall is popular outside of the U.S. The show airs as far away as Finland. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 4117 Registered: 12-2005 |
http://www.wrif.com/nightcall/ | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 3523 Registered: 02-2004 |
Terryh, go to Werbe's website:http://www.peterwerbe.com/ then go to Detroit Calendar. You will get info on all of the local marches and demonstrations. Also Gray Panthers of Metro Detroit at http://www.graypanthersmetrode troit.org/ Look for the Peace and Justice Calendar for events. I wish I could have been at the Friday march. I am a huge huge fan of Peter Werbe. | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 826 Registered: 07-2007 |
I agree that the war in Iraq was at the least a premature forced mistake. I even like Al Gore's reasoning on why it was a mistake. I even think we not only need but it is necessary to have a vocal dissenting opinion to any party in power to call them on the carpet when the F up. But when I was awake and listened to Werbe a few times, who has many good points that I agree with, it was just hard for me to hear the constant bashing on anything conservative. Thats all... | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 620 Registered: 11-2006 |
Ive checked out his site before but thanks for the reminder. Lefty2 it is good to listen to opposing viewpoints even if they annoy or anger you. Try to be fair and not get too emotional. I have listened to Mark Levine on occassion,and find his show entertaining. Talk show hosts have target audiences and know how to 'work the crowd' so to speak. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1156 Registered: 10-2003 |
What an embarrassing bunch of clowns! It would be mostly ignorable if people's blood was not on your hands. But, of course it is. Feel free to sit back in your chairs at your laptops and act like Monday morning quarterbacks while the people that defend us are torn apart on the battle field, often by the encouragement of your ilk to their enemy. It is disgusting. | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 622 Registered: 11-2006 |
How was the unprovoked attack on Iraq defending us? | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1158 Registered: 10-2003 |
A) Your comment is not factual to start with B)How is your comment helping America? C) How many people must be killed by your ignorance? | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 3525 Registered: 02-2004 |
A) How many people are bored by your ignorance? B) Why do you hate citizens acting like citizens? C) What part of "Freedom of Speech" don't you understand? | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1162 Registered: 10-2003 |
OldRed, 1) How many times must you wipe the blood of our soldiers from your bored, rather strained conscience? 2) Why do you think that your actions are in any way honorable when you continue to act in a manner detrimental to our troops and our country? Who gave you the mistaken impression that this sort of disgraceful babbling against our country and our troops is "acting like a citizen?" Just for your information, outside of your leftist utopia, you are not acting like a citizen, you are acting like a traitor... and the end result is death and maiming of people who actually committed to showing up on the battlefield. 3) What part of "Freedom of Speech" don't you understand? Apparently, you think it means you can say whatever you like, regardless of the end results. That of course is not what it means... so learn it before you whine to me that we don't like that your unAmerican comments are considered "UnAmerican"....They are! | ||
Rogerjab Member Username: Rogerjab Post Number: 65 Registered: 06-2005 |
Just wanted to pass along to anyone who missed the Peace March and wanted to attend, there's another one scheduled for Jan. 18th(3rd Friday of the month). There's nothing specifically set for the Detroit area or Royal Oak yet, but I guess this has been the 3rd event held by Iraq Moratorium. And yes it's endorsed by Peter Werbe. Check it out: http://www.iraqmoratorium.org/ | ||
Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida Post Number: 1069 Registered: 02-2007 |
Good God, this is so Vietnam. Irish_Mafia, your team started a war that was not necessary, distracted from our true enemy and killed thousands needlessly. You would have made a good National Guard soldier at Kent State, I imagine. When people with an IQ and sense of right and wrong speak out, you deem it unpatriotic. You need to wash a little blood off your hands too, it seems, Mr. Forum Warrior. Supporting an illegal and immoral war, and wrapping your misguided personal beliefs in the flag is shallow and poorly thought out. Good luck being stuck in your body and mind! | ||
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55 Post Number: 964 Registered: 09-2005 |
"What part of "Freedom of Speech" don't you understand? Apparently, you think it means you can say whatever you like, regardless of the end results. That of course is not what it means..." Certainly not! Freedom of Speech means neo-cons get to say whatever they want, while anyone else doing so is labeled a traitor. Sieg Heil, Irish. | ||
Pythonmaster Member Username: Pythonmaster Post Number: 126 Registered: 12-2006 |
It's the same old crap they fed us during the Viet Nam era, the folks that really cared about the troops wanted them home. Mr. Werbe is a Patriot, and the chicken hawks are free to invest their sons and daughters so that we can extract our oil that is under their sand. | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 4595 Registered: 10-2003 |
do I hear the furious clucking of a chickenhawk? http://www.symbolman.com/chick enhawks.swf | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 6728 Registered: 11-2004 |
It also seems like a lot of these new day patriots forget that our forefathers during the Revolutionary War were also branded traitors by the British Crown. People in a free society have the right to protest and speak up to what they believe is tyrannical. You don't have to agree with any of it, but that's part of the basis in which our country is founded. | ||
Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida Post Number: 1073 Registered: 02-2007 |
Washington Square in DC is usually lined with both supporters and detractors of the war. Although the ratio is not symmetrical, both sides are fully within their rights to speak out. So grab a placard and a sharpie, and get down there and let 'em know how you feel, Irish_Mafia!  And remember..spelling does matter, if people are going to take you seriously! | ||
Oladub Member Username: Oladub Post Number: 68 Registered: 08-2006 |
"Mission Accomplished" : message on White House sign behind President Bush on the aircraft carrier in 2003. Four years later, our federal government decided to settle 16,500 unemployed Iraqi refugees in Warren and Sterling Heights. Some victory. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 519 Registered: 05-2004 |
They'll use any excuse to have a parade in Royal Oak. They used to have just one on Memorial Day. Now, it's St.Pats, Gay Day, and anything else someone can make some money on day. A peace march isn't a bad idea but it loses it's appeal in Royal Oak. The war won't be over until a new president takes over (at the earliest) so it's kind of a waste of time anyways. | ||
Melody Member Username: Melody Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2007 |
I love Peter Werbe. WRIF rocks! | ||
Wfw Member Username: Wfw Post Number: 320 Registered: 03-2004 |
The scariest thing about neo-cons is that dissent = treason. Not only is this kind of thinking incredibly wrong headed, but its also very, very dangerous. |
