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Emu_steve
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Post Number: 547
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 7:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Prompted by the article about the Griswold condos:

1). Tough year for all the nice new condo projects in DD and Detroit River. Slow year for housing but not necessarily bigger items like:

2). Quicken will announce a chosen location.

3). Ilitch will announce his plans for a hockey arena behind the Fox (maybe he can catch a bargain on some needed parcels, otherwise, "What the hell, pay the going rate and get moving"),

In sports:

4). Tigs will play in the WS vs. Arizona. (it would be nice if AZ traded 1/2 their farm system for Santana).

5). Local college FB (UofM, MSU, EMU and WSU) could all be much improved in '08. RR needs a QB to run his spread. WSU needs a QB also.

September just might be a lot of fun for sports fans.
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 8:21 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

6) Grosse Pointe Shores might become a city.

7) Harper Woods might change its city name to Grosse Pointe Heights.

8) Michigan's unemployment rate reachers 11.8%

9) Detroit's unemployment rate increases 17%

10) the Book Cadillac Hotel will be opened for public viewing and occupancy on October.

11) Proposal are to be made for Redford TWP. to become a city to prevent annexation to Detroit.

12) More black crimes increase in the suburbs.
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On the political front...

13) John Edwards gets elected president

14) The Democrats pick up 2 more Senate seats and make moderate gains in the House

15) Kwame does something to get the city of Detroit sued again

16) There are numerous outbursts during Detroit CC meetings that result in the suburbs shaking their heads at Detroit residents for not doing something about it
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Trainman
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There will be strong taxpayer support for a change in the state constitution to allow county and local sales taxes to pay for government services in Michigan as opposed to solely relying on property taxes or state revenue sharing.
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Emu_steve
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE: Senate

Dems could pick up 4 or 5 (just as likely or more likely as picking up 2).

The landscape for the Dems in the Senate is unbelievably favorable.

A number of incumbent GOP senators are retiring.

Virginia, N.M., Alaska, Colorado, etc.
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Redford already is a Charter Township. It would be just as difficult to annex Redford than it would be to annex the Pointes.

Danny if black crime increases in the suburbs, does that mean more opportunities for white criminals to commit crimes in the City?
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Emu:

right, and there are also 5 more republican seats than democrats (16 v. 11) up for reelection, excluding retirements...but you have to take into account seats the Dems will likely lose (probably just 2) to arrive at their net gain...

(Message edited by thejesus on December 31, 2007)
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

17) Detroit will have a Full Service Chain Grocer.
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Izzadore
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree 'rise'. This is the year Detroit gets a Grocer AND a Department store (even if it's Sears) and both of them will be away from 8 mile.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I predict that some type of transit plan will be announced for Metro Detroit.
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Kenp
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiger stadium will be demo'd.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 11:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I predict that nothing will go on the demo'd Tiger Stadium site for at least 10 years.
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Karl_jr
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 1:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Short's out - White is in..

(Message edited by karl jr. on December 31, 2007)
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Sg9018
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 2:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a link to Merto Detroit Leader
predictions for '08
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20071231/COL 06/712310384

Now My Predictions,
-There will be a Cobo hall plan in the works.
-I agree with both Izzadore & Detroitrise Detroit will have a new full Service Chain Grocer. Also national stores will open new stores in the city of Detroit.
- The Griswold condos will be built.
- a DETROIT sport team will win a sport
championship.
-DTOGS will make continued progress.
- A Detroit City Control Member will do something that will make national or local news.
- The mayor will make alot of important announcements. That will help the city in the future more than hurt.
Have a good New Year everyone!
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Gsgeorge
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 2:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

- Commuter Rail from Ann Arbor to Detroit running by December 08 at the latest.
- Light Rail system down Woodward proposed and approved for construction starting in 2009.
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Sg9018
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 2:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like your predictions Gsgeorge.
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Trainman
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 3:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There will support to get SMART back into Livonia by the next property tax renewal in 2010.
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 3:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitplanner, you quoted that if black crime increases in the suburbs, does that mean more opportunities for white criminals to commit crimes in the City?

It's much less for white crimes to be committed in ghettos of Detroit. But there will be more convenient store robberies in the suburbs than Detroit from mostly black males. For them growing up the ghetto, living in their broken homes, joining in the bad crowd will be their way of life unless there are some leader who would step up and change our black communities in Detroit.

I will see more BROTHERS KILLING BROTHERS before BROTHERS robbing in the suburbs in 2008 and the local news media will let me and the public know.
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 3:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

18) The Griswold condo project will remain scrapped due to low housing market. Other proposals for the project will replace condo living for retail and parking.
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 3:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Things will get worst in DARK AGE Michigan before its gets better. The would world is laughing at us right now as they enjoy their happy capitalistic economy.
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401don
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 3:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gas prices drop to $2.70 a gallon. Trainman then buys a new Escalade. He explains, "It's just to pick-up groceries and stuff. I'm still a big proponent of mass transit."
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Gsgeorge
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 4:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why all the doom and gloom for 08?
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Downtown_remix
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 4:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

riverwalk will have another ribbon cutting ceremony.

retail, restaurants, and bars will invade the greater downtown area, in preparation for next summers excitment and March madness 2009.

Grandholm and K.K will have a big announcment that will make the state feel a little less beat-up.

Quicken Loan will both announce and break ground on new headquarter.
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 4:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Downtown_remix

"Grandholm and K.K will have a big announcement that will make the state feel a little less beat-up."


Do you mean that proposed Michigan right to work law? It's against that proposal for its like a " NEW DEAL" scheme. It's just folks getting a state govt' appointed job with a minimum wage and no health benefits.
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Futurecity
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19) More people will realize that purchasing a McPulte off 26 mile road was the worst financial decision that they ever made.

20) After dipping briefly, gas prices resume their steady march towards $5 dollars a gallon, further hammering SUV lovers ("but I LIKE to sit up high!").

21) CarHeads and their ilk will successfully stonewall light rail transportation in the metro area for another year.
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Emu_steve
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 8:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

"riverwalk will have another ribbon cutting ceremony.

retail, restaurants, and bars will invade the greater downtown area, in preparation for next summers excitment and March madness 2009.

Grandholm and K.K will have a big announcment that will make the state feel a little less beat-up.

Quicken Loan will both announce and break ground on new headquarter."

I think both Remix and I are predicting that $ will be there for non-housing projects like Quicken or the shopping center.
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D_mcc
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 8:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Potential for THREE Pro Championships in Detroit in 08:

Tigers in the World Series
Red Wings in the Stanley Cup
Pistons in the NBA Finals

Lions will go 5-12 and draft Brian Hoyer as the QB of the Future!
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E_hemingway
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Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The biggest fallout from the sub-prime mess will be lost tax revenue. Resulting budget crunches will force local governments to find more ways to consolidate services, such as Grosse Pointe Shores becoming a city and downriver communities forming a fire authority. The shocker will be when Farmington and Farmington Hills take serious steps toward merging, creating Farmington Heights.

A lot of people are scared to death of what a recession will do to the region. Interestingly enough, such a crisis might be just the push it needs right now to make some common sense changes.
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Amiller
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Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1) More people will move to the city [of Detroit]! Especially the downtown, midtown, and new center areas.

2) More people will visit the city and spend money in the city.

3) Downtown & midtown will get more street shopping, and restaurants.

4) all of the above will bring more foot traffic and make Detroit more of a "real" city, one where people come to visit for the urban "experience"
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Dannyv
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Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One that always comes true...

The Lions will disappoint their fans
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3420
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Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

22) Detroit gets a department store downtown.
23) Detroit sees slight increase in population
24) More retailers take serious interest in Downtown Detroit
25) The Poletown arae of Detroit will see ground breaking for new homes hopefully.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:19 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything beyond is point isn't a day earlier.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 2:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

<link>http://answers.yahoo.com/my/pr ofile?show=S4swOoyDaa</link>

About the Quicken Move, Quicken Loans has a fairly reliable account on Yahoo Answers.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtHVhu_OFaZR19gTiKcsL0fsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080101131719AAvBNGG&show=7#profile-info-AA10265786

^^^On that question in the Travel To Detroit Section (copy/paste into the "Go" Box), Quicken Mentions that you shouldn't expect anything immediately from them about construction or site choice in 2008. However, they stil are moving.

(Message edited by DetroitRise on January 02, 2008)

(Message edited by DetroitRise on January 02, 2008)
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El_jimbo
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Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 2:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

to add to D MCC's list,

The Spartans will make the Final Four in Men's basketball.
The Spartans AND Wolverines make the Frozen Four in hockey.
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Treelock
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Oil hits $100 a barrel, causing analysts to fret about the possibility of $4 a gallon gasoline. Oops, already happened today.
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Trainman
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High gas prices will be a reason that mass transit taxes are needed, no matter where thay come from including fast food according to transit tax increase supporters. Oops already has happened.

So, learn the facts on my website before you vote. I care about the taxpayers and want you all to be informed.
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Jeduncan
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Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 7:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

George Bush will end his tenure as president and the democrats will take office. Shortly after, due to Armageddon, the entire republican party will be raptured to Texas and the trials and tribulations will begin.
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Mayor_sekou
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Mayor_Sekou will become unable to resist the urge to buy several houses in the city for less than the value of his car.
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Meaghansdad
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Mayor Sekou,
Were you just at the UD School of Law Open House? The gentlemen sitting across from me shares the same name.
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Emu_steve
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

couple more related and unrelated predictions and thoughts.

I'm not willing to bet on it yet (timing is everything), but there are those who see the run up in oil as a BUBBLE (and we saw what happened to the tech bubble in the late 90s and the housing bubble).

Bubbles are bubbles. Something not sustainable by economic reality.

Anyway, I discussed this with the Wash. Post's ace business writer last month. Saw someone on a business channel Wednesday.

Both agree oil is a BUBBLE.

Sure there are factors, but they both see the 'real' price of oil at say 65 bucks a barrel and the rest is speculation.

When will the bubble burst?

A recession, even mild, would puncture the ballon.

As soon as a recession approaches speculators will dump oil like they dumped tech, etc.

And with all bubbles, last one in takes the beating.

P.S. I forgot my other prediction. Might have had something to do with commercial credit.
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Emu_steve
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BTW, I used to run with a 'senior VP' at a brokerage firm here in No. Va. during the late 90s.

I'm go nutty about the price of tech stocks losing money.

50 bucks for a stock losing money and even if the company made a 25 cents a share and then increased it 50% a year how many years would it take to justify a 50 buck price???

I'd tell him. Good thing the company is losing money.

If it made a nickel a share earnings per share ratio would be astronomical. Ugh. :-(

I like stocks with price earnings ratios of say 10:1. :-)

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