 
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway
Post Number: 1488 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 4:17 pm: |   |
Granholm creates task force to find alternative funding of transportation http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a pps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2008 0102/REG/839897292/1018/FREE |
 
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 1732 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 4:20 pm: |   |
I think she should go further. I demand that the governor appoint a BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE to look into the matter! ;) |
 
Futurecity Member Username: Futurecity
Post Number: 735 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 5:16 pm: |   |
Another stall tactic by the CarHeads to keep keep transit in Michigan limited to a third-world bus system. |
 
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 1374 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 5:24 pm: |   |
From the article:
quote:Final recommendations are due by April 1, 2009. Just wait, I'm sure we will all be "blown away"! "Task Force" = "kick the can down the road" This governor - and the entire Legislature - couldn't spell "leadership" if you spotted them "leader" and "ship". |
 
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1628 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 5:44 pm: |   |
Will Granholm ignore their findings like she did with the fix the budget mess committee? |
 
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2452 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 5:54 pm: |   |
Is this the precursor to toll roads in Michigan? |
 
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1629 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 6:19 pm: |   |
Hard to do Toll Roads in MI. We are not a pass through state, we are a destination state. Toll Roads were ruled out long ago. |
 
Trainman Member Username: Trainman
Post Number: 607 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 6:20 pm: |   |
Let Granholm know that you support my mass transit plan to get SMART back into Livonia and to re-connect all major regional bus routes. See DETROIT LINKS |
 
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 6927 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 9:35 am: |   |
Go for it GRANHOLM! She is making Michigan work for everyone. Here are some transportation tidbits: In 1864 The Michigan Legislature passed the The Municipal Railroad Act. to allow cities and townships to issue bonds for railroads. Cities and TWPs can use the property to secure the bonds for other purposes. |
 
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 471 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:05 am: |   |
Bob, actually, we are a pass through state...at least as far as any NAFTA related traffic is concerned. The quickest way to get trucks from the industrialized areas of Canada in Quebec and Ontario to the western US or to Mexico is through Detroit and Port Huron. Since they are the vehicles that are tearing the roads apart anyway, it only seems right to make them pay a bit more for fixing them. |
 
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73
Post Number: 273 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:20 am: |   |
I was wondering if it would be possible to create toll roads that only apply to trucks? Is there a way that 75 from the Ambassador to the border, or 69 or 94 from Port Huron to the border could be turned into toll roads in such a way that cars are allowed to pass around the toll booth while trucks must stop? |
 
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2456 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:46 am: |   |
quote:I was wondering if it would be possible to create toll roads that only apply to trucks? Is there a way that 75 from the Ambassador to the border, or 69 or 94 from Port Huron to the border could be turned into toll roads in such a way that cars are allowed to pass around the toll booth while trucks must stop? They could make it a trivial toll for a car (like 5 cent) and not enforce it. |
 
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 991 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:53 am: |   |
This is not a trivial task. To make a road a toll road, you have to have the infrastructure of a toll road which means you either have to erect toll plazas at intervals (as is done in Illinois) or have all the access to the highway be toll-booth ramps (as is done for instance on the Ohio Turnpike). The configuration of the ramps on our existing freeways does not allow for the latter, without billions of dollars of reconstruction. The first option creates horrible delays, especially at peak periods, and if you don't think that's so, try to get from Chicago to Milwaukee at 5 p.m. some weekday and tell me how you liked it. It is turning a big lever to impose tolls on roads that were built to be free expressways. I think some other kind of solution is indicated here. |
 
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 472 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:58 am: |   |
If your goal is to capture drive through truck traffic, then the least intrusive solution would be to tack an additional toll for trucks crossing the Ambassador and Blue Water bridges. Just to throw out a number, let's say each truck pays a $15 "Michigan Road Usage toll" on top of the regular bridge toll. |