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Chitown_guy
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 9:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was in my local IKEA today (Chicagoland) and I overheard a couple of employees talking about IKEA opening a second store in the Metro Detroit area. Has anyone heard anything about this? If this is true I think that this speaks volumes to IKEA's views of Detroit.
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Scooter2k7
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was a rumor that IKEA owns the land at Hall Road and Gratiot Avenue. They were rumored to open up on the eastside there in Macomb Township. These are just rumors as far as I know.
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Bob
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This has been a rumor for quote some time. IKEA basically said that it was not happening anytime soon. They finance any new construction on their own, with no help from banks, so new location take a while. They only open so many so often as to have the capital to be able to do it. Smart way of doing business.
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Eriedearie
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mom told me a while back about IKEA going to open on the Eastside somewhere. Scooter is probably right about the location.

Just my two cents worth!
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Bob
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That location is not secret, it was in the papers a while back. One would assume IKEA would be mum on a location as to not drive up the price of the land.
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Ramcharger
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IKEA should open a store in the now vacant MGM temporary casino building. There’s plenty of parking and with a location like that and the current exchange rate, they would attract hordes of Canadian shoppers.
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Detroit313
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit could support another IKEA; for the east metro area that is.....

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Gsgeorge
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great, all those homeowners in Macomb County can furnish all their identical suburban homes with identical IKEA furniture.


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W_6_mile
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was suppose to be an IKEA in Troy but city officials didnt like the stores bold colorful exterior design.
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gratiot and St. Aubin, Detroit.

Prime location.

Or build it on the Lafayette Park shopping center site.
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Fareastsider
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No two homes look the same in Detroit that is for sure.
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Lafontaine
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A shopping area/convention center is being planned in Chesterfield at M-59 and I-94 (on the eastside of I-94). I thought I heard about Ikea going into this development.
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1953
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about at 8 mile and Woodward!

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Viziondetroit
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"That location is not secret, it was in the papers a while back. One would assume IKEA would be mum on a location as to not drive up the price of the land."

If they allegedly own the land- who cares about the price of the land?
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Mrnittany
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IKEA is opening a store in the northern suburbs of Cincinnati (West Chester) this spring. I've read in news articles that the company will have then reached their "critical mass" in terms of stores they can serve in the Midwest, without the further building of a Midwest distribution center. Such a distribution center is planned for Joliet, Illinois ... but estimated completion date is not until late 2009 ... thus, I doubt any further IKEA stores in the Midwest till then.

(Message edited by Mrnittany on January 07, 2008)
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Reddog289
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IKEA ON THE EAST SIDE, good then i can drive down ford rd in canton with less traffic.
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Luckycar
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 8:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great, more crap for the eastsiders!Have you been to IKEA?Lot's of junk that can be bought anywhere for less without the hassle.Could you belive the fools standing in line for that chow hall food?Swedish my ass meatballs.Don't need to go back..ever.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 8:37 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Fareastsider, that will surely bring DD some hustling and bustling life during the 9-5.
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 9:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why in the world would ikea open a second store in detroit, when they only have one store in chicago which is an infinitely larger market?
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are four IKEAs in the Greater Toronto Area, including two in the city proper. I am sure Metro Detroit could handle a second (slightly more centrally located) IKEA.
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 9:59 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol, Ikea will NOT be opening a store in Detroit
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

There are four IKEAs in the Greater Toronto Area, including two in the city proper.



very true, however, i would argue that canadians as a whole are culturally (with the greater european influence in canada) more drawn to contemporary design and furniture than an equivalent amount of americans, not to mention that toronto is the cultural center of canada.

(Message edited by gravitymachine on January 07, 2008)

(Message edited by gravitymachine on January 07, 2008)
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

why in the world would ikea open a second store in detroit, when they only have one store in chicago which is an infinitely larger market?


Chicago has 2 Ikeas.
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Gingellgirl
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 4:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bringer onen da IKEA.
I'ma fresh outta lingonberries.
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Detroitrise
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People wouldn't know sarcasm when it's stuffed up their noses and pushed out their behinds.

However, It would really kick off other retail (if IKEA is profitable, a big box store would definitely look at downtown) if they located in DD.
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ikea NEEDS massive parking lots. What the hell are you going to do with a downtown Ikea? Forget it. As I understand, the only reason that it works in NYC (NJ I think, and under construction in Brooklyn maybe?) is because everyone gets everything delivered there, it's the culture.

Everywhere else in the country, you drive your SUV to Ikea. No one is going to ride SMART or DDOT to Ikea and lug their furniture box home. Forget it.
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Everywhere else in the country, you drive your SUV to Ikea. No one is going to ride SMART or DDOT to Ikea and lug their furniture box home. Forget it.



That's why they deliver, omniscient one.
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Sg9018
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Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Focusonthed IKea is under construction in Brooklyn. The neighborhood is called Red Hook. Here a link to what the plans is going to look like,
http://gothamist.com/images/20 04_10_ikearedhook.jpg
The Ikea will be close to Interstate 278,Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn.
You can buy small things that you can hold in a Ikea bag. The things you can't lug cn be delived like Danindc said.
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 1:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^^Look at that? Still, lots of parking (especially for New York). It won't work downtown.

Will it work in a city? Sure, there's plenty of big-box development on former industrial sites in Chicago...gives people what they want and keeps it out of historic and dense neighborhoods. Will it work downtown? No.

Dan, no need to be sarcastic. I'm one of the bigger transit and urban proponents on this board, I just don't see a downtown Ikea working anywhere, much less Detroit. It's not their model.

I'm also fairly certain that most Ikeas do not include the fleet of yellow delivery trucks pictured there. Not all Ikeas offer delivery themselves, they'll just help you find someone to deliver it for you. And it's definitely not included.

(Message edited by focusonthed on January 08, 2008)
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Danindc
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Dan, no need to be sarcastic. I'm one of the bigger transit and urban proponents on this board, I just don't see a downtown Ikea working anywhere, much less Detroit. It's not their model.



I'm not being sarcastic. I've taken the bus to Ikea quite a few times, and it's worked out fairly well. Does that mean it's a good idea to put one of these big blue shitboxes in a downtown neighborhood? Absolutely not. Does that condition mean it has to be in a remote cornfield amongst acres of asphalt and no transit access?
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Dannyv
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what I heard, the Canton IKEA store is under performing to expectations. Many staff members, who were initially hired for the opening, have been laid off.
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Renfirst
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If they open up another IKEA I'll be extremely surprised...

If traffic congestion is a sign, the Canton store hasn't been that busy lately... not the same crowds as before...
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe not as many new residents moving in and out, that need cheap, "trendy", throw-away furniture? Related to the "brain-drain"? Everyone that wanted Ikea has already bought what they needed?

I have to imagine they're still pretty slammed at the beginning of college semesters though.
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Mwilbert
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have no idea what their expectations were, but when IKEA first opens a store, particularly when it is the first on in a region, they get lots of people who want to see what an IKEA is like and drink some lingonberry juice, or people who knew it was coming and were waiting to buy something. After a while, it gets more sedate.

Of course, it is hard to imagine that IKEA would be immune to the housing slump, or the economic situation in general, so it is entirely likely they aren't doing as well as they expected.

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