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One_shot
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 11:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Went there for the first time this weekend and I felt like I was walking into Biff's from Back to the Future. SMOKEY as HELL and just cramped. The elevator to the parking garage sounded like it was crying for help. Figured we'd check it out after the remodeling but didn't like it. We we already at MGM so maybe thats why it looked like such a pit. We made a lap and went over to MGM. Night and day difference. I will say the lighting on the hotel tower is almost hypnotic though! I recommend MGM for a night out. You don't have to gamble and its cool just looking at the decorations of all the restaurants!
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 11:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree...I went to MCC a couple of months ago and couldn't wait to leave, and I don't plan on going back
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Club_boss
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 11:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"and I felt like I was walking into Biff's from Back to the Future."

Too funny
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 11:21 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"and I felt like I was walking into Biff's from Back to the Future"

Sweet! Detroit has its own version of Universal Studios!
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Detroitstar
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 11:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MCC is the most poorly maintained casino I have ever seen...in any city. Parking garage 1 is poorly lit, poorly signaged, and noisy. That's not an appropriate greeting for your visitors.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 11:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember, the same wealthy family that is destroying our downtown for more parking at their sport venues is the same wealthy family who owns and operates our fair casino/hotel.

So, I'm not surprised at all.

(Message edited by detroitrise on January 14, 2008)
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Downtown_remix
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MCC casino space is only 20% complete. The 2rd and 3rd floors have been closed for a year. They say the remaining portions of the casino should be complete by late March.
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Mdoyle
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Biff
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One_shot
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All that was missing was an Illitch Hall of Fame!
The garage was dirty and confusing. I was glad MGM was literally a minute away.
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One_shot
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha! Great image Mdoyle...Even the lighting theme is the same!
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Jjaba
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mdoyle studs up with a perfect photo. jjaba saw it late at night on the Grand River bus. After you win big at the MCC tables walk the other way and enjoy Carl's Chop House, a long standing Detroit tradition.

jjaba.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funniest thing I ever saw at Carl's was when DPD Deputy Chief Joe Areeda drove up in a Delorean. He parked it in the lot (being a cheapie and avoiding the valets), only to have two cars park close on either side and he couldn't get the gull-wing doors open.
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Melody
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This thread rules! Two Back to the Future references in the first dozen posts? That's heavy.
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Mdoyle
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Now son, we can do this the easy way or the hard way..'THE EASY WAY'"

Mike Ilitch = Biff Tannen
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Fareastsider
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know about two years ago in the city I saw a kid walking around with his pocket lining hanging out of his pockets like the fashion of 2015 in Back to the Future. I have seen it other times since then. The future is NOW!
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Drankin21
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heavy Melody? Is there something wrong in the future with Earth's gravitational pull?

make that three
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Lo_to_d
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They could start enhancing it by putting an entrance from the f'n street. They should have just put the slot machines in the parking garage at each stall. That way people wouldn't have to get out of their cars.
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Bongman
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to go exclusively to MGM, but i'm turned off to the new one. Their video poker games suck major ass. I've recently started going to Motor City, and find it quite pleasing. Their poker games are better. Their cash-in tickets accept any value, and the waitresses seem like real Detroiters. That elevator needs serious work, and I was stuck in a huge traffic jam on the roof Saturday afternoon. However, I also hit a royal 4 times since New Year's, so if that keeps up, I can stand a little inconvenience. I go early in the morning, and leave as soon as the buses show up. MCC is the only casino where panhandlers seem to be tolerated. Their logo on the hotel looks a lot like WWWW-FM's old one from the rock days. Also toured the Hotel Saturday. I didn't get the impression anyone was actually staying there.
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Melody
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"MCC is the only casino where panhandlers seem to be tolerated."

INSIDE the casino? Really? That's something that should never be tolerated anywhere, especially a casino.
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Bongman
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 2:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't say it's tolerated, but I've been hit up for dollars several times. That never happened at MGM. I don't really look for ambience when gambling. It's a seedy proposition, and the smokier the better. In fact, if someone sits down next to me and asks me to stop smoking, I just stare at them and say no, I was here first....you should have brought a mask (I see that too). Downtown Vegas is a lot more fun than the strip IMO.
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Melody
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 2:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Downtown Vegas is a lot more fun than the strip IMO."

I totally agree!!

However, I would get SO pissed if someone asked me for money in a casino. For some reason that seems as inappropriate as standing too close to someone at an ATM.
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Bobj
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 3:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good to know that there is more to come, I wasn't that impressed with the casino part
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Civilprotectionunit4346
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 3:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I read an article recently that in Atlantic City they are going to be building more newer casinos w/shows & etc like the Vegas ones. Ive been to AC before...once you leave the casinos it's not a fun place to walk around. I was with friends and we got hassled by prostitutes & some homeless.
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Mdoyle
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 4:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, well at least I know how to deal with homeless people from experience in Detroit. In Vegas those damn guys snapping those fliers in your face every 3 feet is much more annoying than kindly turning down one or two peoples request for a few quarters.
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Genesyxx
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 8:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always hated Greektown. The parking structure was terrible (won't even get into the elevators) and its even more cramped than MCC.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 11:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just down Trumbull is the Teamsters Headquarters Office with their sign prohibiting foreign cars in the parking lot. Visitors want their picture taken in front of it. Another downtown tourist attraction for ya.

jjaba.
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Nellonfury
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 8:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To me, MGM Grand and Casino Windsor(Caesars Windsor later on this year)are the ONLY two casinos that WORTH going to!
I agree with most of you people about MotorCity.
Their parking garage is very poorly, it feels like you're in a Michael Jackson 'bad" video.I've been in MotorCity ONCE, stayed for five minutes and left.Other that that,the neon light display at the MotorCity hotel does look nice, but I hate the casino.
I also agree with Genesyxx about the Greektown parking garage.The city kinda rush through it, especially that "stupid looping ramp"
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Lowell
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 9:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have only been to MCC once, about three years ago for a walkabout, before the present revisions. Smokey yes, but I recall that there was quite a large non-smoking area on the upper floor. Didn't seem as busy as the other floors however.

I suspect the others have non-smoking gaming floors too. Do they?

As for casinos tolerating the homeless, they should. Afterall they are creating some of them.
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Rax
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:55 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

As for casinos tolerating the homeless, they should. Afterall they are creating some of them.



Are you being serious? The casinos in Detroit are providing more unskilled jobs to Detroit's population than almost any other industry. Ask any homeless person on the street about their situation and let me know if ONE of them blames the Detroit casinos.
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Gistok
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 3:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes the MotorCity Casino gaming area is still a work in progress... with a lot of gaming areas still off limits. It won't be finished for several more months.

Criticizing while under construction hardly seems fair...
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Downtownguy
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 4:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't MCC have a grand opening of their casino last summer? What's the point of having a grand opening if you're not done?
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Broken_main
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 4:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Downtown...They did not want to lose one red cent. they did close it down for a short while while they were expanding the casino.
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Gistok
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 4:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

... probably to take some of the publicity away from MGM... But MotorCity is still a work in progress... just look at the roof!
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Jerome81
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 8:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I read a review of MCC in one of the Chicago newspapers and they gushed about the place. They raved about the rooms, the restaurants, etc. I don't recall what they said about the gaming, but it sure seemed like they loved the place.

I've only been to Greektown 1x this past July. It struck me as really tiny and really busy.

Of the 3 (seems people are only comparing MGM and MCC), which is the best for gaming? Coming in for the auto show this weekend with a friend who has never been to Detroit and likes to play some craps and blackjack. We might hit it up.

Is the MGM the "permanent" casino or the "temporary" one? Greektown is still the "temporary"?
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Renfirst
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 11:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OMG, we've got a Biff's in downtown Detroit!

It doesn't surprise me, the condition at MCC... have you ever been in a Little Caesers? They don't seem to care about appearances...
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Lowell
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rax, I am sure no one homeless person could pin the loss of their home on one specific casino, but gambling is a known contributor to homelessness and more. A classic example of this happened a couple of years ago when a very successful businessman from Farmington Hills, who depressed by his gaming losses, took the lives of his wife and two children before taking his.

His losses destroyed the company he partnered in and caused job losses. Studies has shown that 1 in 5 gambling addicts attempt suicide.

That said, I do not opposed gambling or any other personal choices, recognize the downsides of it and am delighted to see the jobs and tax base it has created in Detroit.

But I am also not going to put lipstick on a pig. Like drinking, drugs and other vices, it is dangerous and destructive to certain personalities.
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Novine
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 3:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MGM is the permanent casino. Greektown is still in their "temporary" location. I haven't heard anything recently about their efforts to build a permanent facility.
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Rax
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 9:05 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can understand your point Lowell. But a person with a true gambling problem doesn't need a casino to get their fix. Just like a drug addict doesn't need legalization to get high. I'm tired of taking responsibility off the individual. I understand that gambling, alcoholism, etc are sicknesses. Suggesting that the MCC should allow the homeless to congregate in the casino because they somehow "owe" it to them is ridiculous in my opinion. Should a bar owner allow a bum to sleep on the floor because he's an alcoholic?
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Detroitstar
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 9:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Novine, Greektown is expanding their temporary facility and building an adjacent hotel tower as we speak.
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Imhere
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 10:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I never really cared for MCC, before the renovations started. I went a few weeks ago to see what it was like with the renovations on-going. Still didn't really care for it. I'm not sure what I don't like about that place, but was never my favorite.

I really like the new MGM and spend most of my time there.

I went to Greektown just to see the new garage and I hate that spiral ramp. I understand the need for it with the space constraints, but..

Greektown also seemed very compact. Everything seemed right on top of each other. Greektown used to be my favorite, but they took out over half of the gaming tables for slot machines and I don't care for slot machines.
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Detroitstar
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 10:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure why all the hate for the spiral ramp at greektown...it is time efficient both in and out. If there is one thing I hae in a parking structure it is trying to pass through several floors that I already know are full and the backup that ensues. This system makes getting in and out extremely easy.

As for gaming space, I gotta go with MGM, then Greektown, and MCC as a distant third.
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Gistok
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we ought to give both MotorCity and Greektown the benefit of the doubt, and wait for them to be completed before making comparisons against a finished product (MGM).
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Novine
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Novine, Greektown is expanding their temporary facility and building an adjacent hotel tower as we speak."

Thanks for the update. It's been a while since I've been to Greektown to gamble.
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Royce
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 7:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Truth be told, all three of our casinos are extremely SMOKEY. I really don't know how the workers can stand being in that environment for hours, taking in all of that cigarette smoke.

I'm disappointed that MGM Grand's permanent casino has no "no smoking" floors. At their temporary casino I believe they did. My last few visits there have not been pleasant because as soon as you walk in the door, you're hit with the smoke. Even Greektown is bad. I haven't been to MotorCity since their expansion, but it was never great there either.

It's a shame that gamblers not only have gambling as a crutch, but smoking and drinking to go along with it. Must be tough having all three vices. Man, you would think that in this day and age that folks would have quit smoking along time ago. However, visiting a casino definitely proves how addictive cigarette smoking can be. I'm glad gambling is my only vice.:-)
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Ramcharger
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 8:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree that comparing a finished casino to those that are still under construction is not a fair comparison, however, since MGM Grand has spent almost twice as much as the other two are spending combined, I doubt that many opinions will change.

As for the smoke problem, I suspect that the State Legislature will putting an end to that in the not too distant future.
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Melody
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Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 3:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I'm disappointed that MGM Grand's permanent casino has no "no smoking" floors."

The gaming floor is the ONLY place in the new MGM you can smoke, aside from a large slot area that is non-smoking. Also, anyone can request a non-smoking table. I take that back, a few of the lounges may allow smoking. But the entire hotel, the hotel lobby, the spa and all of the restaurants (including the buffet and cafe) are smoke-free.

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