  D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 187 Registered: 12-2007 |
http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/ 29/detroit-stockton-flint-biz- cz_kb_0130miserable.html On Second thought, that is rather depressing | ||
French777 Member Username: French777 Post Number: 319 Registered: 10-2006 |
That list makes me so mad... Detroit, NYC , Philly and Chicago!! They all have GREAT Entertainment/Shopping ( not so Detroit) and fun stuff to do!! | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 2284 Registered: 10-2006 |
"Misery is defined as a state of great unhappiness and emotional distress. The economic indicator most often used to measure misery is the Misery Index. The index, created by economist Arthur Okun, adds the unemployment rate to the inflation rate. It has been in the narrow 7-to-9 range for most of the past decade, but was over 20 during the late 1970s." At least Detroit is less miserable than in the past! | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 4894 Registered: 10-2003 |
If New York is on this list of most miserable cities, I wouldn't take this as an indicator of meaning much about cities. What the hell more do you want from a city than New York? Huge population, low crime rate, culture and entertainment up the wazoo. Give us some of that misery, PLEASE. | ||
401don Member Username: 401don Post Number: 246 Registered: 11-2007 |
The report also draws a strong correlation between taxes and misery. In Canada, I'm happy to pay taxes for Healthcare. In France, the entire country pays a tax to support and maintain the beauty/cultural richness and pristine condition of Paris. They are happy to do it. Maybe if Michigan did the same, Detroit would still be the "Paris of the Midwest." It's not about paying taxes, it's about getting value for your money.(which brings us back to Kwame). | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 412 Registered: 04-2004 |
It's interesting that the top miserable cities: Chicago, NY, and LA are the places young people are flocking to. | ||
Missnmich Member Username: Missnmich Post Number: 638 Registered: 11-2004 |
Any list that includes the sleepy San Joaquin Valley cities of Modesto and Stockton in with the major players (N.Y., L.A., Chicago) is skewed to start with. Modesto and Stockton have long commutes because of commuters to San Francisco, and San Jose. They may be miserably boring, but they're halfway between the Sierra and Coast Ranges, beach or Yosemite -- with dry heat and oleander and eucalyptus lined freeways. Detroit and Modesto? Literally (MI) apples, and (CA) oranges ... (Message edited by missnmich on January 30, 2008) | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 4990 Registered: 10-2004 |
quote:You're misunderstanding the listing. As in the Big Ten football standings, there are usually only one to three teams ever in contention. The rest are listed because of formality. After all, there are eight to ten other teams to fill the list. Same with the Forbes list. Only the first three were in any contention. The remaining 147 cities in the top 150 in population had to be included along with the Big Three. It was merely a formality. Or to put in another way: There were two leagues--a major league as in MLB and another (Class AAA and under) minor league. No real, legitimate comparison between being ranked #1 and #4... | ||
Dbest Member Username: Dbest Post Number: 80 Registered: 03-2007 |
Wow what a great piece on the city. Ive grown tired of reading these articles pertaining to Detroit mostly because they are meaningless to me. I dont expect the media to offer any assistance in helping with the perception of the city, which is what I'm always hoping for, anything positive but no they bash. FAH-Q Forbes | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 4999 Registered: 10-2004 |
Detroit ranked 150 out of 150 on crime. That's believable, and that also reflects the FBI crime statistics for 2006. The 2007 rankings weren't yet updated on the Wiki the last time I checked. Some of Detroit's crime rates for 2007 were less than those in 2006. But, Detroit's rankings for crime should not change too much because they were so much higher in 2006 than most of its nearest "competitors." | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 525 Registered: 11-2003 |
Doesn't surprise me. Kicking Detroit is great press. This is why there is a task force being formed (or may already be done) that does crack PR on a regional basis in response to things like this. Most other large cities have such a group. I was at an event this morning in the Almighty Suburbs(tm) that really hit home the fact that we as a region do not speak well enough of ourselves - we many times are our own enemy and should like ourselves a little better before we expect others to like us. And part of that is cooperation as the reality is that we are all in one boat - this Forbes article speaks to the entire Detroit region. | ||
Civilprotectionunit4346 Member Username: Civilprotectionunit4346 Post Number: 622 Registered: 06-2007 |
Quite an interesting article. I could see why most the populous here is very upset/miserbale/sad. Well due to all the manufacturing jobs moving overseas(not just in this state as well), companies cutting jobs, people's disposable income has mostly vanished due to rising utilities & etc, and the way the state is in a recession I could see why. I understand most people on here like to shed a positive spotlight on the city & some of the surrounding areas here. I don't want to sound negative nancy again...me & my girl have been discussing jobs & us moving in and living together. Thing is she currently is unemployed & is having a tough time finding a job in the ultrasound field. Recently she told me she found some one's down in Jacksonville, FL area and is going to apply for them because she desperatley needs a job in that field. I lived in the jacksonville area for about 4yrs when I served in the service, so I know the area & place to go eat, places to go for fun & etc. We might become one of those number of people that have to leave due to financial reasons. It would be great to see the state become more prosperous, but we gotta do what we gotta do to survive and all. Now back on track about that article. I see their is quite some other cities that have a grumpy factor to them. NYC didn't suprise me due to all the traffic & congestion there. They should include Northern NJ in that list as well. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 2289 Registered: 10-2006 |
"In Canada, I'm happy to pay taxes for Healthcare. In France, the entire country pays a tax to support and maintain the beauty/cultural richness and pristine condition of Paris. They are happy to do it...It's not about paying taxes, it's about getting value for your money." That's partly why the Danes are the happiest people on earth. People there are more free to choose any profession as about two-thirds of their income goes to taxes. That also allows that government to pay for nearly every program that people want and need. | ||
Noggin Member Username: Noggin Post Number: 103 Registered: 09-2004 |
During the depression in the 30's a bunch of people left Oklahoma were called "oakies" (usually derisively). They would travel around settling for low paid jobs to feed their families. What would you call the modern version of Michiganders doing the same thing? | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 200 Registered: 12-2007 |
Smart? | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 2290 Registered: 10-2006 |
When Michiganders go out of state to find a new job, chances are that it is not lower paying than Michigan would be offering them... |
