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Iheartthed
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Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Newark marked its 33rd day Friday without an official homicide, a startling fact for a city that has averaged about two killings a week over the last few years and saw homicides spike 50 percent from 2002 to 2006.



http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/ 02/15/no.homicides.ap/index.ht ml
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This should serve as inspiration for Detroit.

I'm going to Newark a week from today.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congrats Newark :-)
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Detroit313
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Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good news we could all use!

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French777
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 8:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is Detroit's Record?

anyone Know?
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Digitalvision
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It looks like it's "Broken Windows" in practice:

From the article:
"McCarthy attributes the drop in homicides to a broader strategy to fighting crime that includes prosecuting petty crimes, like loitering and public drunkenness, as well as more serious ones."
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Rosedaleken
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congratulations, but I'm sad that this is newsworthy...
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last year I took the train to New York City from Trenton and I remember a large sign that you could see from the train at Newark station. It read as follows:

HELP WANTED: to stop the killing of Newark's school children

That billboard was not good for tourism, but it did drive home the point.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^If you click the link, you'll see the billboard in the article.
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 12:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess I got the details wrong -- and I guess I was not the only person to see that sign!
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YAY! Newark is murder free. For a while
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit needs this kind of broken windows policing. But instead of demanding that, we demand that people:







(Message edited by johnlodge on February 18, 2008)
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Jjaba
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newark has been attracting a whole new generation of Hispanics. They are really trying to revitilize. Maybe something really is happening to change things there. It is hardly a large city, compared to Detroit.

jjaba.
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Crumbled_pavement
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Johnlodge, I think that "stop snitching" thinking is part of the criminal culture more so than the average person's thinking. Sure, there are those that won't report a crime, but it's generally not because they don't want the criminal to get in trouble but because of fear of their own safety. I think a few knuckleheads started this "stop snitching" nonsense and it was blown way out of proportion. Or maybe I'm just old and out of touch?
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Cdwaters
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I worked at UPenn's school of medicine and a med student came in wearing a stop snitching shirt. My blood boiled. I wonder if he'll still be wearing that shirt after his ER rotation dealing with babies who are the victims of drive-bys. Someone smart enough to get into an ivy league med school showing his ignorance.
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Buyamerican
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"There was a fatal shooting of a 30-year-old man by an off-duty Newark police officer on February 3. But Newark police spokesman Lt. Todd McClendon said that doesn't count as a homicide under the FBI's reporting guidelines"

What are the FBI's guidelines regarding murder?
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Cdwaters
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 2:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.nj.com/news/index.s sf/2008/02/initial_review_find s_fatal_sho.html

Here's the story on that Feb 3rd shooting, I don't know what the guidelines are, but this definitely doesn't sound like murder to me.

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