 
Crains Member Username: Crains
Post Number: 26 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 2:51 pm: |   |
Developer envisions Hollywood-like streetscape for Silverdome A high-tech entertainment center may come to Pontiac if a developer wins the bid for the Silverdome. The Oakland Press reports California-based United Assurance Co. is proposing a venue combining entertainment, sporting events, hospitality and broadcasting. http://crainsdetroit.com/apps/ pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080219 /REG/336461878/1050 |
 
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2713 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:04 pm: |   |
I'll believe it when I see it. How about they make a park there or something? |
 
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 5525 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:08 pm: |   |
How are they going to get around the fact that the Silverdome sits in the middle of a mile of asphalt? |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 5189 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:09 pm: |   |
I heard they were going to develop it into a giant spaceship that can fly to Jupiter and back in three days! It's going to be powered by magic fairy dust, and the government will give all Michiganders a million dollars each so they can afford to ride it during our tough economic times! |
 
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 168 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:10 pm: |   |
"It envisions the handprints of Madonna, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross and other Michigan stars lining a Hollywood Boulevard-themed streetscape that winds between restaurants, hotels and shops." A another fake-downtown outdoor mall? No thanks. The Fountainwalks and Partridge Creek have had underwhelming results. |
 
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2714 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:14 pm: |   |
Partridge Creek is struggling already? |
 
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1623 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:19 pm: |   |
How screwy can the people in this region get!? |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 5190 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:20 pm: |   |
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Revolutionary Member Username: Revolutionary
Post Number: 142 Registered: 09-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 3:39 pm: |   |
Someone here suggested we jump it with a school bus. |
 
401don Member Username: 401don
Post Number: 269 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:22 pm: |   |
They should make it an auto theme. It would attract several hundred people annually. |
 
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa
Post Number: 1068 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:53 pm: |   |
^ AutoWorld South.... |
 
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 170 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:54 pm: |   |
Iheartthed, I didn't say "struggling"... it is not meeting expectations. Those can be two very different things. |
 
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2717 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 5:02 pm: |   |
quote:I didn't say "struggling"... it is not meeting expectations. Those can be two very different things. Semantics. The takeaway point is that for a brand new development it's not performing. Is that correct? Btw, I have never been there nor will I probably ever visit it. Most of my family lives on the west side of the city and the western suburbs, so I would never really have an opportunity to go way over there during a visit home. All I know about this place is what I read here. With that said, I never expected for this to be a smashing success. I am just surprised that it is showing strain so soon. |
 
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 171 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 5:16 pm: |   |
Respectfully, those are still two very different terms. "Struggling" can mean something very different than not meeting high hopes/projections. Ask any storekeeper. I've never been there either... and I don't plan to. All I had heard is that it was performing below optimistic expectations. Seriously, who thought it as a good idea to build outdoor malls in a state with bitter winters? Iheartthed & others... I hate to be a nay-sayer and not offer any solutions. Does anyone else have ideas? I do like the auto-theme idea that was mentioned... maybe the world's largest indoor vintage car dealership, lol. |
 
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2718 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 5:25 pm: |   |
^Fair enough. As for how I feel about the prospects of the Silverdome... Tear that schitt down? What else can they do there? It's not located in a centralized location. It was built with the specific intent for people to park their cars in a humongous parking lot, attend an event in the stadium and go home. There is no compelling reason for anything else to be on that site other than a football stadium or a forest. Since it's prospects of remaining a football stadium are dim at best, I say it's time raze it and turn it into park land. |
 
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 173 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 5:37 pm: |   |
I doubt the City of Pontiac would dig that idea... losing million$ when they could $ell it. And on top of that, paying to raze & reforest it. |
 
Hunchentoot Member Username: Hunchentoot
Post Number: 72 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 5:47 pm: |   |
Love your rendering, Johnlodge |
 
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2719 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 5:49 pm: |   |
quote:I doubt the City of Pontiac would dig that idea... losing million$ when they could $ell it. That's if it's really worth anything. Michigan is losing population. The metro area growth has been stagnant for 3 decades. What demand is there to put something new there? |
 
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 174 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 6:12 pm: |   |
Uh, I'm not an expert in economics, but I would say that their $18 Million is something, right? Better than having to pay to tear it down. I saw Pontiac should take the money and RUN! |
 
Cmubryan Member Username: Cmubryan
Post Number: 532 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 7:33 pm: |   |
Yes I agree that this type of idea-combining an outdoor mall with our motown theme is passe, overdone and cheesy. We need to stop living in our past and focus on bringing something original and unique. |
 
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 176 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 7:39 pm: |   |
Come to think of it, it's a crazy idea, but original... A huge, indoor vintage/antique car marketplace. It could be a destination for car collectors across the globe. Rare cars, parts, memorabilia, etc. Free shuttles to Henry Ford, other museums, Rouge Plant, etc. Here's to fantasies... |
 
Catman_dude Member Username: Catman_dude
Post Number: 272 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 7:57 pm: |   |
Turn it into a Mega-Bingo Hall on weeknights and a Mega-Flea Market on weekends. |
 
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313
Post Number: 613 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 8:38 pm: |   |
I think it should be turned into a park. <313> |
 
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 830 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 9:56 pm: |   |
Yet another idea for the silverdome site..... (Message edited by fareastsider on February 19, 2008) |
 
Royce Member Username: Royce
Post Number: 2554 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:51 pm: |   |
I like Catman_dude's ideas. With those ideas in mind, why not advertise the Silverdome as a convention center for Pontiac? It has the floor space and the parking spaces. Sounds like an inexpensive way to make use of the stadium. |
 
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 1208 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 12:49 am: |   |
I didn't know palm trees grew in Michigan in the winter. I envision a multi sport plex, but what do I know. |
 
Boshna Member Username: Boshna
Post Number: 201 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 1:01 am: |   |
Gibraltar Trade Center- Norther |
 
Ray Member Username: Ray
Post Number: 1075 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 1:28 am: |   |
Here are some offf the cuff ideas: A permanent Auto-Ramma exhibit. An indoor water theme park. The world's largest Walmart. A monument to the incredible STUPIDITY of the city of Pontiac, which had previous offers for significantly more money and higher quality development five years ago during their first round of bidding... until the lamebrain city government drove the developers crazy and they dropped out one by one. |
 
French777 Member Username: French777
Post Number: 340 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 6:56 am: |   |
A new Shopping mall might be coming to THE ROC at Hamlin and Rochester called The Gardens of Rochester Hills! |
 
Otter Member Username: Otter
Post Number: 21 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 10:23 am: |   |
Johnlodge, That is a typical suburbanite Detroit (oops, Pontiac) hating thing to say - it will be powered by unicorns, not fairy dust! Everybody who's been to The P knows that the exhaust from that much fairy dust makes you sick. |
 
Lmcdet Member Username: Lmcdet
Post Number: 40 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 10:44 am: |   |
I like the idea of an amusement park. Leave the the dome (or make it retractable) remove the seats, turn it into North America's (if not the worlds largest) indoor water park. Expand it into some of the massive parking lot and add Rollercoasters, consessions, carnival games, and different types of rides (the works). It can be a year around amusement park destination. |
 
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2325 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:36 pm: |   |
Ray: "After soliciting requests for proposals Oct. 11 through CB Richard Ellis - the Southfield-based brokerage firm hired to market the 127-acre Silverdome property - the Pontiac City Council voted Feb. 7 to reopen the bidding process because current bids were deemed inadequate." http://theoaklandpress.com/sto ries/021908/loc_20080219248.sh tml |