Hans57 Member Username: Hans57
Post Number: 266 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 10:54 pm: | |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/M ETRO/802130385/1148/AUTO01 It looks as though Detroit will finally be part of the "fantastic" Dream Cruise. While I think this is going to be a good event for the city, we still have guys like this: Some cruisers say that despite the event's good intentions, they won't be driving south of Eight Mile. "The safety factor is dwindling and you can't depend on the cops anymore," said Paul Schubring, 45, of Berkley, who has cruised in his 1979 "torch red" Malibu coupe for the last eight summers. "In general, I don't like being down there," he added. "It's not like I'm totally snubbing Detroit but I am, sort of." |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 956 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:35 pm: | |
"It's not like I'm totally snubbing Detroit but I am, sort of." Seriously, wtf does he mean by that? You are either snubbing it or you are not. Sounds like a snub to me. |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1615 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:43 pm: | |
"In general, I don't like being down there," he added. "It's not like I'm totally snubbing Detroit but I am, sort of." I hate dumbass suburbanites. It's not like I'm totally snubbing the Suburbs but I am, sorta of. (Message edited by detroitrise on February 18, 2008) |
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 161 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:10 am: | |
LOL. They don't mention the crime involved with the "suburban" Cruise? I grew up in Huntington Woods and had to try to fall asleep to the revving of engines and squealing of tires past 2AM. Not to mention the drunken fights, the littering, the noise and the menacing driving behavior. Not to mention the fact that it is SO overcrowded that they should call it the Woodward Dream Crawl. They could use more space. All of that suburban crime makes me want to stay in Detroit for the Cruise, huh? |
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 217 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 9:00 am: | |
That Malibu is a "Trailer Queen" I'm sure! |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 5164 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 9:06 am: | |
I don't even understand why they quoted that guy. Who cares if he doesn't want to go South of 8 mile? The cruise is not being extended there. It's like they only quoted him to have some way to knock the city. His quote is irrelevant to the story and event. The event is basically a festival downtown.
quote:Aside from the charity event, the official cruising route along Woodward Avenue -- traditionally from Ferndale to Pontiac -- will not be extended south of Eight Mile, said Dale Dawkins, board president and CEO of Woodward Dream Cruise Inc. That's because historically cruising on Woodward took place in the suburbs, said Dawkins, who is also a Bloomfield Hills commissioner. "If we don't stick with that, we kind of lose the whole basis of this." |
Gotdetroit Member Username: Gotdetroit
Post Number: 123 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 9:11 am: | |
Dream Cruise: Do. Not. Want. The little event that was held in Campus Martius last year was just fine by me. |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 1050 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 9:16 am: | |
If you've got a complaint I'd file it with Catherine Jun and not the guy who said it. As JL stated why is that comment even pertinent to the story? He's just a guy who has a car, it's not like he's one of the organizers of the event. |
Tk65 Member Username: Tk65
Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:06 am: | |
Sorry wont be going down there. I dont like taking my shitty car to Detroit let alone my nice one. |
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle
Post Number: 344 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:18 am: | |
yes, lets start making note of the writers who include these unnecessary and negative quips in their column. It's just as easy to find people who are enthusiastic and excited that Detroit will be art of the cruise. Time to make mountains out of mole hills in my opinion. Its these small underhanded comments that shape public opinion, r at least continue to reinforce negative stereotypes. I will be emailing the writer shortly. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 5174 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:22 am: | |
quote:Sorry wont be going down there. I dont like taking my shitty car to Detroit let alone my nice one. Again, the story clearly states Detroit is not part of the cruise route. It wasn't historically, and it won't be as part of the event. This is a festival downtown celebrating automobiles. Nobody is asking you to "go down there". |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 11335 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:24 am: | |
quote:Sorry wont be going down there. I dont like taking my shitty car to Detroit let alone my nice one. Nice to hear you have a shitty car to go with your shitty attitude. |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1619 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:34 am: | |
LOL Jt1! |
Tk65 Member Username: Tk65
Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:38 am: | |
How many super nice muscle cars have you ever seen in the city of Detroit. A suburban family is not going to venture into the city with their car thats worth thousands of dollars. Thats just a fact. |
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill
Post Number: 459 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:42 am: | |
I think Tk is overlooking the fact that those of us "down there" and living "down there" dont particularily care for those types of people/attitudes around us anyway. They only bring negative energy. Many of us dont drive "shitty cars" and actually live "down there".Thankfully , there are many people all over the metro area that don't have that attitude. |
Tk65 Member Username: Tk65
Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:46 am: | |
Every year around cruise time the question of why the cruise doesnt extend into Detroit gets brought up. People do not want to go there with their nice cars. |
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c
Post Number: 1180 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:50 am: | |
Some degenerate rednecked comments that grind me: "Dahn der n Dee-troit" "Dahn n Dee-troit" "Dahn der" |
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision
Post Number: 569 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:52 am: | |
It's pertinent because it's the perceived majority attitude of this region and most readers of the paper will agree with it. It's getting better, but it's still easily the majority in my experience. |
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle
Post Number: 345 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:07 pm: | |
Tk65 why bother to participate on this forum where people come to support the city (for the most part) and talk about positive change. 'fraid dem po folks gunna take yo car? There truly have been an inordinate number of trolls on here recently. Next up: Detroit Dream cruise to be manned by guards with automatic rifles to keep the suburbanite safe. |
Tk65 Member Username: Tk65
Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:08 pm: | |
Man, that "down there" really struck a cord huh? Well, when I am on Woodward, cruising, I am not going to continue on "down there". "Down there" is where the event is, so I have to drive south from up there to get down there. Thats if I was going down there, which I am not. I see where you were trying to go with my statement however. If I was going to go to Detroit, which I do every weekend, I would drive over there. And it would take me about 2 minutes to get over there. So squash the scared suburbanite that doesnt really know thoughts okay? |
Rob__bob Member Username: Rob__bob
Post Number: 57 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:11 pm: | |
concur x2 w/Mdoyle |
Tk65 Member Username: Tk65
Post Number: 27 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:15 pm: | |
Again, people get all up in arms about a true statement. Ill be damned if I bring my 50,000 muscle car into the city. There is no reason for it to be there. I however have no business not going into the city. I am a Tigers season ticket holder and play basketball on the weekends in Brightmoor. OOOOOOOHHHHH NOOOOOOOO! This guy isnt who we thought he was. I support the hell out of the city, but I am not a blind loyalist. And I am not stupid enough to bring a car thats going to stand out like a sore thumb into Detroit. |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 1248 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:18 pm: | |
Mdoyle, you are exactly correct. If Tk65 doesn't want to venture into Detroit, that's great for him. He should be posting on BloomfieldHillsYes.com, however, not one devoted to Detroit. |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1621 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:19 pm: | |
Tk He prefers to keep certain stuff out of the city in fear of safety and he visits only for sports. Sounds like a typical suburbanite to me! Heck, I'd prefer to not visit the suburbs if it wasn't for shopping. It's too dull and destroys the environment/inner city vibe. (Message edited by detroitrise on February 19, 2008) |
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 585 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:24 pm: | |
Tk65, I've seen more expensive cars than you $50,000 muscle car on the streets of Detroit before. I've seen , Navigators, Escalades, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and even a Bentley downtown. Your $50,000 car isn't as expensive as any of those cars yet the people driving them don't seem to be afraid and they drive those down there all the time. What would you be so scared about? Are you afraid someone is going to try to car jack you in the middle of an f'ing parade? How paranoid are you? |
Sciencefair Member Username: Sciencefair
Post Number: 58 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:24 pm: | |
"A suburban family is not going to venture into the city with their car thats worth thousands of dollars. Thats just a fact." My car is worth thousands of dollars and my family and I live in the city. That's a fact. |
Dds Member Username: Dds
Post Number: 554 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:27 pm: | |
Sounds to me like the Detroiters have the exact same shitty attitude toward the suburbs that suburbanites are having towards Detroit. |
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle
Post Number: 346 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 12:39 pm: | |
Dds I see where your coming from so I'm going to speak on my own behalf (and possibly destroy my credibility) What I and most members of this forum mean when we say suburbanite is actually more of a mindset shared by the majority (not all) of suburbanites. Typically referring to those between 35-70 years old who belong to a time when race played a big issue in th opinions formed about the city and the 35-55 year olds who for the most part have never had any relationship with the city at all. I myself, a wayne state student of 5 years, live in the suburbs with my parents for lack of money. It's sad I know, but I spend nearly all of my meager income in Detroit, all of my good friends live in Detroit, I spend 6 days a week often sleeping on friends couches because I choose to stay in the city as long as possible, to goto bars in Detroit, goto civic events, goto school etc. Also I am a big big advocate of the city and have changed many friends minds about going to the city over the last 5 years. To them, now, there is no where else to be. These are MSU, U of M grads that could work anywhere but theyve seen the city and what it has to offer and love it. A friend and I are even weighing the possibilities of starting a business. So while I may be from the suburbs, I wouldn't include myself in the what many forumers refer to as "suburbanites" |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 1250 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 1:13 pm: | |
"Sounds to me like the Detroiters have the exact same shitty attitude toward the suburbs that suburbanites are having towards Detroit" Really? Then why was the issue of "crime" only raised in the context of extending the Dream Cruise into Detroit? How many comments did you see in the past about Detroiters not wanting to venture into the suburbs for fear of their cars being stolen? Your comment does not reflect the facts. |
Rel Member Username: Rel
Post Number: 165 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 1:22 pm: | |
MDoyle, well-said. There is the techincal term, suburbanite. Then there are those of us who are former residents & wanna-be residents who cringe when they hear Detroit-phobic or Detroit-ignorant stuff (and speak up about it). Perhaps we could scientifically observe these fascinating species : Examples of comments that could only come from Antidetroiterpoda Suburbanite: "I'm never goin' down' dere', ya here?" "Y'all stay away from muh truck" Habitat: mainly Hazel Park. Small colonies have recently been discovered downriver. Mating habits: Anything involving a cousin. Ignorantoni Suburbanite: "Wayne State and Belle Isle are downtown, right?" "The only roads I can drive are Woodward & Jefferson, right?" "I hear Detroit has amazing architecture, like the Greektown Casino" Habitat: Mainly Clinton Twp. with small colonies in Birmingham. Eating habits: Anything in Greektown because they have foot patrols. Friendlymotownboosterida Suburbanite: "I know gas is expensive, but I'd rather get my groceries from Eastern Market" "My car should be fine parked here" "Let's go to the DFT instead of the Star Theatre" Habitat: mainly Royal Oak, Ferndale with colonies discovered in Ann Arbor. The above are generalities, folks. I am poking fun at the term, not anyone here personally. I think that the term "suburbanite" needs to be taken with a grain of salt on this forum, because it depends on the context. Pick your species ;) |