Post Number: 3
|Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:20 pm: || |
I like that neighborhood, the Indian Village. Is it a good place to live? I saw a foreclosure when I was in town visiting last week. I Would like to know more about the neighborhood.
Cocoabee from Providence, Rhode Island.
Post Number: 1030
|Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:25 pm: || |
Not only will you be living in a historic part of Detroit, Indians enjoy special rights as well!
Post Number: 437
|Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:29 pm: || |
Indian Village is a fantastic neighborhood! Beautiful homes and great neighbors. Close proximity to the freeways, Belle Isle, Eastern Market, and down Jefferson from Downtown & the Pointes. Decent grocery shopping in Harbortown, too. One of the more "walkable" parts of the City.
We hope to see you again in Detroit!
Edited to add link...
(Message edited by rel on March 14, 2008)
Post Number: 4
|Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 10:17 pm: || |
I'm looking forward to visiting again in a few weeks. Thanks.
Post Number: 1031
|Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:00 pm: || |
We hope your people find the Indian Village Reservation pleasing.
Post Number: 187
|Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:31 pm: || |
You might check this out:
Post Number: 266
|Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:29 am: || |
Watch out for the termites...
Post Number: 372
|Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:39 am: || |
here is a video!!
p.s The radio was playing not great music when I filmed this....
Post Number: 2085
|Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:43 pm: || |
Cocoabee, I can confirm that Indian Village is a great neighborhood, and neighbors are very active to ensure it stays that way. If you are seriously looking, I recently compiled a list of all homes for sale in the neighborhood, email me at dway at mailcan dott com if interested.
Current prices range from $39K for foreclosure fixer-uppers to $750K for the grandest homes. While I might sound like a salesman here, I think it's actually not a bad time to buy if you're looking at foreclosures... prices on the foreclosures have dropped to the point where people are starting to buy. While no foreclosed homes had been selling for a couple of years, just in the last few months 3403 Iroquois, 3460 Iroquois and 3488 Burns (all foreclosures) have all sold to new buyers, for example. I think the foreclosures problem hit our area earlier than most of the rest of the country, so we are bottoming out on prices earlier, too.
Post Number: 25
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 6:15 am: || |
Just be aware that there are violent crimes everywhere. Had a friend who returned home, let his dog out in the back yard and didn't lock the door. A masked person came in, beat him and then shot him. Fortunately it did not kill him. Robbery was the motive. Don't let this beautiful neighborhood fool you. It is just as dangerous as any other part of Detroit.
Post Number: 448
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:42 am: || |
Grumpyoldlady, I am sorry to hear about your friend. I am sure Cocoabee is logical enough to know that crime happens everywhere. I looked at Indian Village's stats on the Detroit Police Department website and it fares much better than other parts of the City (posted on relevant thread). On a side note, I lived in Indian Village for years and was not once the victim of violent crime.
http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/De partments/PoliceDepartment/tab id/141/Default.aspx
On a related note, I now live in Bloomfield and still lock my car every night, as well as my home, whether I'm in or out of it. There is something to be said for prevention, no matter where you live.
Post Number: 133
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:52 am: || |
"It is just as dangerous as any other part of Detroit"
That is not reasonable. All parts of Detroit are not equally dangerous, not even close, and I don't know why people would want to say that they are.
What is true is that all parts of Detroit are policed by the DPD, and they may not provide police services up to the standard you might expect.
Post Number: 5267
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 2:08 pm: || |
I know a number of folks in IV and I have heard about the wonderful neighborhood feel. However, I have also heard of nightmare stories about armed robberies and break-ins. Indian Village is an "open" district meaning anyone can walk through or drive their vehicle down any street. I wouldnt live there without an alarm or gun.
Post Number: 737
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 3:25 pm: || |
Any scalpings lately?
Believe me, living in Detroit is a hell of a lot more dangerous than living in most of the surrounding suburban neighborhoods.
Post Number: 5
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 4:52 pm: || |
When I was in town, I visited friends of friends that were living in Arden Park. It is also a beautiful neighborhood as well. I had a good time when I was in town, we went to a couple of casinos, that was lots of fun. The only thing that happened was that my watch band link broke during the visit while out sightseeing. I couldn't find a jewelry store no matter how hard I looked. I went to some mega pawn shop to see if they did onsite repairs and the guy wanted to buy my watch with some lowball offer, and when I told him I wasn't interested he seemed offended and didn't want to tell me where I could find a jeweler. Where is there a good jewelry store for future reference?
Judging from the mixed bag of replies there are both some that are for and against living in town.
Post Number: 715
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 5:06 pm: || |
You just pay a lot for taxes. Not for services but for your mayor's jollies.
Maybe by the time you arrive here, he'll live at that motel in Madison Heights for good.
Post Number: 1052
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 5:47 pm: || |
Really rocketman? Taxes are high? Wow, thanks for the heads up.
Coco, you are right, there are not a lot of legitimate jewelers left in the city. Here's a few though: Facets of Todd Michael (Fisher Building), Simmons and Clark (Broadway, Downtown), and Muccioli Studio Gallery (Beaubien, Downtown).
Post Number: 57
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 6:04 pm: || |
You people are as bad as the media and their BS op-eds!
My taxes are high and I'm always scared in this city!
...oh wait woops, my taxes are low, the years I've lived in the city I haven't run into one single crime except for suburban teenagers getting drunk in the parking lot and throwing there empty case of beer all over, oh yeah then theres the time I saw some of them throwing rocks at a building which just had its windows replaced.
Cocoabee, welcome to a place where millions of suburbanites piss on their city dailey in many, many ways. (except for my Ferndale friends, who although are persuaded not to live in the city by the pissers, still support it)
Post Number: 7
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:37 pm: || |
Well, I liked my visit to Detroit. I'm puzzled as to why so many people on this website bash it as they do. Way to much anger. It's simply unhealthy.
Post Number: 462
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:00 pm: || |
Cocoabee, on behalf of the naysayers, I apologize. It's this kind of negativity that won't get the City anywhere.
I hope you won't see it as representative of all Detroit. Also, keep in mind that this is an online discussion forum, where people love to create controversy and get a rise out of each other. Come back to Detroit and continue to enjoy your visits! Let your friends in Arden Park show you around again, and if they want to pawn you off for a day, it would be my pleasure to show you around town.
Thanks for inquiring about Indian Village. It's a great neighborhood, and anyone who lives/has lived there will tell you the same thing.
Post Number: 598
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:55 pm: || |
I've lived in Indian Village since 1965 and in those 43 years I've had two B&E's, only one serious, and have been stuck up once. That's less than one crime every 13 years.
Crime is less here than most places in the city. Part of the reason is we have both a very good paid patrol and a civilian patrol.
The real secret to good security is making your home look like someone's there all the time. Have a large barking dog, leave your lights on at night, either have an alarm or at least a sign saying you have one, and all the common other things that make it look like you're home, when you're not.
As has already been said, there is very good social life with monthly Village parties each in a different home, a strong neighborhood association, good schools both in the Village and not far away, an excellent grocery market, and much more.
The YouTube video that was posted earlier in this thread, had a lot of footage shot outside the Village in a section west of us that has some run-down homes.
Indian Village, whose first of the 350-some homes was built in 1895, is only three streets wide - Seminole, Iroquois and Burns - running north one mile from East Jefferson to Mack.
Post Number: 599
|Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 9:16 pm: || |
For more on Indian Village, go to:
Post Number: 116
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:03 am: || |
There's something a bit TOO cliche'd about this post.. as if the drive north on Burns isn' t cliche' enough.
hamtragedy, in Chicago ( a 21st century city) for 2 wks. laughing my ass off.
Post Number: 140
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 6:16 am: || |
I think it is silly that one even considers 2 breaking and enterings and 1 stick up to be minimal. Granted, my grandmother who lived in the country had her house broken into about 15 years ago, so it's not as if inner-city residents are the only victims.
Where I live I always leave the front door unlocked and never fear that anyone would go in and take anything. There would actually be times where I accidentally left the front door wide open (with only a screen door keeping any potential thieves at bay). I always got comments about that as if it is strange that I never lock my doors.
Post Number: 3692
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 7:00 am: || |
Granted, my grandmother who lived in the country had her house broken into about 15 years ago, so it's not as if inner-city residents are the only victims.
Where I live I always leave the front door unlocked and never fear that anyone would go in and take anything.
I'm sorry, that is just foolish no matter where you live. You have no way of knowing who is passing through your neighborhood at any given time. Locking things is an easy enough precaution.
(Message edited by Pam on March 17, 2008)
Post Number: 675
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 7:16 am: || |
Just checked out the website referenced above for crime stats and... no information at all. Very much like the response of the DPD and most of your neighbors when you're a Detroiter.
Post Number: 76
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 7:30 am: || |
Precaution and security are important in any urban environment. Indian Village is a great place to live. I don't live there but know many who have or do. Beautiful historic homes and a great community of neighbors. The D is really a great place to live despite all its bumps and warts. The key, is to live in communities with established identities and to volunteer to help bolster adjacent neighborhoods to get on their feet. Hope you pick one of the many great Detroit communities in which to reside. If you choose to reside in suburbia but want history and easy access to Detroit consider Grosse Pointe Park.
Post Number: 360
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:57 am: || |
Behold - the Detroit experts continue to share their wealth of knowledge and perspective:
"...I think it is silly that one even considers 2 breaking and enterings and 1 stick up to be minimal. Granted, my grandmother who lived in the country had her house broken into about 15 years ago, so it's not as if inner-city residents are the only victims."
"Just checked out the website referenced above for crime stats and... no information at all. Very much like the response of the DPD and most of your neighbors when you're a Detroiter."
"You just pay a lot for taxes. Not for services but for your mayor's jollies."
"Don't let this beautiful neighborhood fool you. It is just as dangerous as any other part of Detroit."
Did you know that there are also no big-box stores within 5 miles? And that the nearest Chili's in in Eastland; the nearest Wal*Mart in Warren? [GASP] What a cultural backwater! Who would live in such a barren wasteland!?
Thank God there's such safe and civilized areas such as Macomb Township, Romeo, Waterford and Novi; areas where you can head down to the Wal*Mart, buy some good ole 'Merican goods, top it off with a .5 lb burger and Bud Lite at Chili's for $10 (as opposed to those $5 MGD's at Union Street - omg - what a rip off! and not even have to worry about locking your doors because crime is so utterly non-existent. Ahhh, the good life.
Post Number: 849
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 10:21 am: || |
"Well, I liked my visit to Detroit. I'm puzzled as to why so many people on this website bash it as they do. Way to much anger. It's simply unhealthy."
Well we live here every day and that anger is not for no reason. Detroit is a love/hate relationship. Sometimes it is the greatest place, other times you wish it would wash away down the Detroit river. Detroit for all its good has a whole lot of bad. Many people choose to ignore the bad but it is very real and you should not ignore it.
I am also sick of these people that blow so much smoke up their ass because they live in the city and not the suburbs. Who cares you are not smarter or more enlightened because you choose to live in an urban environment. Same goes for the people in the suburbs who live there and dont lock their doors or can shop at Target more easily. Different strokes for different folks get over yourselves please.
Post Number: 676
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 10:22 am: || |
And behold, another know-it-all claims to have the only valid perspective on the issue.
Thanks for sharing, Registered. Detroit rises, right?
Post Number: 1057
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:00 am: || |
Craig, thanks for identifying a know-it-all for us. If you find anymore, let us know.
Coco, on DYes it's usually more snark than anger. Come to Detroit and you will be pleased with all the interesting folks you will meet. It's a big city, a big diverse region, and it's filled with plenty of down to earth people who aren't angry. Well . . . except for Rasputin, but he moved. Rumor has it that after his cat got eaten by the neighbor's pit bull, he moved to Livonia.
Post Number: 3695
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:00 am: || |
As a matter of fact when a poster asks "is it a good place to live" then some perspectives are more valid than others. Who should they listen to, someone like Bob Cosgrove, or someone who hasn't set foot in the city in 30 years and/or has not been to the area in question?
Post Number: 361
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:07 am: || |
"Detroit rises, right?"
Just as sure as the majority of those on this website will continue to share their riveting perspectives, grand ole memories and valuable comments on all that is Detroit...
Post Number: 880
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:12 am: || |
why are you all of a sudden posting again if you hate everyone here? Go away
Post Number: 5
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:17 am: || |
i often leave the door to my woodbridge home unlocked at night. get a pitbull, let him roam around the yard for an hour each day so people know it lives there, and nobody will think twice about entering your home.
Post Number: 675
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:22 am: || |
I never have understood the door unlocked thing. I grew up in Central Michigan and no one did that there. Why is it that such a dumb action is always pulled out as a measure of safety? When in reality it is just a measure of stupidity, and shear obliviousness to ones surroundings no matter where you live.
Anyway IV is a great neighborhood, I like it more than Palmer Park because it feels more open to the community that surrounds it. There are truly beautiful homes and great people there. I would live there in a heart beat if I could afford it and had the resources and time to manage a house.
Post Number: 139
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:22 am: || |
There is a dead crime statistics link on the referenced page, but there is also a live one.
The one that works takes you to:
And you can see crimes for the Indian Village area if you ask for the area around Iroquois and Kercheval.
Post Number: 881
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:27 am: || |
Based on the crime map, the 3 streets that make up IV have little or no crime reported in the last 30 days, though all streets surrounding it do.....
Post Number: 544
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:02 pm: || |
I find it hilarious how some posters seem to think that if you dont have a Chillis nearby or a Walmart your life isnt worth living.. I guess we should feel bad for them that they have to drive 45 minutes for a ball game, casino, entertainment, a major waterway, major restaurant districts, the DIA and on and on,,but I really dont, I also find it hillarious when a person living in the Village reports on liking their area that some on here who live 45 minutes away act like they know better,, CoCo make your own mind up where you want to live and listen to people who live directly in their neighborhoods. The metro area has alot of watchers who think they have every area of Detroit properly figured out, Trust me ,they dont,, I cant believe the lack of knowledge some of the people who come to my place have,,They keep telling me they didnt know places like where I live ( Lafayette Park) existed,, Well if one opens their eyes maybe they might see,.
Post Number: 1401
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 3:17 pm: || |
Registeredguest - If your definition of a cultured area is distance to WalMart or Chilli's then I'm unsure I share your definition of culture. My definition would include proximity to musuems, theaters, sporting venues, bars, restaurants, diverse neighborhoods, recreation, and more. Indian Village is within a few miles of all of this. Is your neighborhood?
Post Number: 3697
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 6:48 pm: || |
Registeredguest - If your definition of a cultured area is distance to WalMart or Chilli's
He/She was being sarcastic.
Post Number: 766
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:01 pm: || |
I was raised near Indian Village (and my parents still live there) and we were never victims of ANY crime. No break in, no stolen car, no nothin'.
Indian Village is awesome... SO much house for the money. great people... Also... close proximity to Detroit's GREATEST middleschool... The WALDORF SCHOOL.
Post Number: 22
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:16 pm: || |
I think you tend to get what you are looking for. Lot's a folks feature crime and danger and shit on this site. If that is what you are looking for you can find it. It you look for entertainment, sports, music and art and great museums and stuff you can find that too.
If you believe it is a dangerous world you can lock up your house and your car and get a guard dog and gun and hole up in your castle.
Otherwise you can go out for a walk and enjoy the sunshine. Depends on what you are looking for.
Newcomers have heard of Detroit and know its reputation. They don't need to come here and listen to folks who live here bad mouth it too.
Post Number: 8
|Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 10:34 pm: || |
I was born and raised in a depressed area. A former mill city complete with vacant foreclosures stripped of their copper, and a rising number of citizens without good jobs. I'm not intimidated.
It's just unfortunate that my generation (gen x) had to inherit these post-industrial socio-economic problems. Many of us believe we truly missed out on the glory days of America.
Post Number: 678
|Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:54 am: || |
Yeah Gen X missed out on the glory days, you guys are just the start, I don't even want the think about what my generation and the ones after mine are going to have to deal with whatever you want to call them Gen Y, Echoboomers, etc.
Post Number: 2534
|Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 1:33 am: || |
I would look on parker...i know of at least one beautifully restored 4k sf 4+ bedroom, that could be had for a steal.
great neighbors. great block. can't beat it.
Post Number: 79
|Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 1:16 pm: || |
Detroit is a love/hate relationship. Grew up here. Left when our kids were little. As empty nesters we came back. We are in East English Village. Unfortunately, there are a lot of Emma homes (foreclosed properties)we look out for these homes and report problems to our local neighborhood organization. We occaisionally feel frustrated but mostly our urban experience is very rewarding. We spend the bulk of our money in Detroit. We do not fear to go anywhere in its borders. West Village is also a great small community that was mentioned by another poster. We had a small office in Islandview Village which is adjacent to West Village. I have adopted the mantra I am Detroit and I am an Eastsider. You will love the people and the experience. Urban pioneer comes to mind though I am sure I will be heckled for this comment.
Living in an urban setting adds a certain spice to life that can't be found in the burbs. It is true that no major chains exist in the city, so if your idea of a Saturday afternoon at the mall is your idea of a fun outing don't move here. Or at the least, be prepared to drive.
I lived briefly in Macomb Twsp. Every store imaginable was around the corner. We ran screaming from that environment in under ten months. I do hope you try our city on for size. It isn't everyones ideal environment but is interesting.