Hockey_guy Member Username: Hockey_guy
Post Number: 21 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:27 pm: | |
What does everyone think Detroit's population will be according to the census? I'm thinking between 840,000-860,000. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2700 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:32 pm: | |
I think it will be in the 890,000-910,000 range. As shown in the 2000 census, I think the exodus is starting to level off. Most of the people leaving now are leaving the state altogether... |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 2743 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:32 pm: | |
I think whatever number the census bureau comes up with, C of D officials will rant and rave and scream that Detroit was undercounted. The figure will subsequently be adjusted up. History has a habit of repeating itself. |
Crumbled_pavement Member Username: Crumbled_pavement
Post Number: 185 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:41 pm: | |
I partially agree with Ray1936 and lhearthed. I think the population will be estimated at 900K because it was under counted in the past. However, this won't actually reflect the population going up or leveling off. It will reflect a more accurate account. I can tell you first hand the neighborhoods I've lived in have definitely lost population. |
Hockey_guy Member Username: Hockey_guy
Post Number: 22 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:46 pm: | |
I wish I could see in the future and see what the population will stabilize at, 500,000, 600,000? I don't know. Baltimore and St. louis have stopped their losses finally. |
Hans57 Member Username: Hans57
Post Number: 263 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 4:48 pm: | |
I feel that the Mid-Town Cass Corridor, whatever you wan to call it, in the past four years I've lived here, has had an increase in population. More people are living in Detroit that go to Wayne State and CCS. I think the population edit that we recently saw will accurately depict our population; about 900,000. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 5231 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 5:04 pm: | |
DPS enrollment has dropped 34% since fall of 2001. Based upon that, my gestimate for the 2100 enumeration would be a peak of 775,000. I think we may already be near, at, or maybe, under 800,000. The so-called data provided by the Social Compact was essentially nothing more than a brochure, showing Detroit's neighborhoods. A snow job... Another guess of mine is that the Census Bureau let the Social Compact have their figures in those cities they conducted that "research." When the enumeration starting in 26 months comes up with something substantially less than those figures, the Social Compact won't be believed any further. |
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 579 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 5:41 pm: | |
watch it rise above 1,000,000 by 2020. |
Hockey_guy Member Username: Hockey_guy
Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 5:49 pm: | |
What makes you think it will? |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1605 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 5:49 pm: | |
For all we know, the pop. could be above 1 Million right now! Just because the enrollment dropped in DPS or someone faced home foreclosure doesn't mean they left the city, they probably just moved into a new home and attend a suburban school. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2701 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 5:50 pm: | |
DPS enrollment losses are affected more by charter schools than population loss. |
Goose Member Username: Goose
Post Number: 58 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 5:57 pm: | |
detroitrise, how does that make sense?? someone has a home foreclosed, yet they are going to move into a suburban area and new schools that are typically more expensive??? and regardless, if they are going to a suburban school wouldnt than make them not living in detroit??? |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 5234 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 5:58 pm: | |
The number of charter schools was capped long ago... |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1606 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 6:04 pm: | |
Goose, "someone has a home foreclosed, yet they are going to move into a suburban area and new schools that are typically more expensive???" -I don't believe I said that. "and regardless, if they are going to a suburban school wouldnt than make them not living in detroit???" I know of numerous Detroit residents who have their children attending schools in nearby suburbs through the address of one of their suburban relatives or friends. Regardless, they still reside in Detroit. (Message edited by detroitrise on February 17, 2008) |
Crumbled_pavement Member Username: Crumbled_pavement
Post Number: 187 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 6:08 pm: | |
Detroitrise said: "For all we know, the pop. could be above 1 Million right now!" Detroitrise, I severely doubt that. The only way it is possible that we are currently above 1M is if the census severely under counted us in the past. We have definitely lost population, as evident by the record breaking number of vacant houses in the city. Goose, you don't have to live in many of the suburbs to attend school there. When I was growing up, my next door neighbor's two kids went to school in Southfield, a kid around the corner went to Groose Pointe schools. It happens.... |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 5236 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 6:27 pm: | |
The job loss and bankruptcy scenarios are worse than predicted just two/three years ago. Ford's cutback plan for 2012 now has a 2010 (or earlier) time-line. The effect on the Tiers, jobwise, is usually about seven times than of the automakers. The Census Bureau's interim report stated that Detroit only received around 25% of what immigrants (both legal or illegal) it should have picked up. Why? Because of the dearth of jobs in SE Michigan, especially Wayne County and Detroit. It's all about the jobs. There's no way that Detroit is gaining jobs or population. They're both declining and will continue for the first half of the next decade. |
Hudkina Member Username: Hudkina
Post Number: 122 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 6:57 pm: | |
The population will more than likely be above 900,000 by 2010, and could be as high as 915,000. That's a drop of about 5% since 2000. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2320 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 6:20 pm: | |
I predict that the population of Michigan will actually decrease (I think that that would be a first for the state). Either that, or it will see its smallest growth ever recorded and that Michigan will lose two representatives as result of the national population adjustments. |
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav
Post Number: 382 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 6:48 pm: | |
Based upon US Census Bureau statistics/projections current to 2005, it is not far-fetched to predict a Detroit 2010 population of 850,000 http://www.census.gov/popest/c ities/tables/SUB-EST2005-04-26 .xls |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2720 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 7:12 pm: | |
quote:I predict that the population of Michigan will actually decrease (I think that that would be a first for the state). Either that, or it will see its smallest growth ever recorded and that Michigan will lose two representatives as result of the national population adjustments. Well, Michigan's population is already decreasing... http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20071227/NEW S06/712270310 |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 1444 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 7:55 am: | |
910,000 to 919,000 |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 7141 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 9:35 am: | |
Detroit 2010. population 920,675 72% black, 13% white, 10% hispanic, 2% Asian, 2% other. Kenneth Cockerel is Mayor. Martha Reeves is Councilwomen pro temp. The Detroit Tigers won the World Series against the Atlanta Braves 6 to 4. Detroit Lions went to their first ever Super Bowl, but lost to New England Patriots 30 to 27. Detroit Pistons have a worst losing season in record 20 wins and 77 losses. Detroit Shock won the WNBA World championship. Detroit Red Wings won the 2nd straight Stanley Cup against the Dallas Stars. They shut them all out in 4 rounds. Game 1: 5 to 0 Game 2: 2 to 0 Game 3: 4 to 0 Game 4: 3 to 0 The new movie theater and office center complex in Campus Martius is completed. Michigan's umeployment is 5.5% and decreasing due to new alternative jobs. Former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and Former aid Christine Beatty are still in prison for Perjury. Rennaisance Lanes bowling alley on Woodward Ave south of State Fair Rd. was set in fire by an arsonist. Plans to rebuilt the bowling alley is proposed. Plans to expand Cobo Hall is a done deal. For Wayne County exec. Ficano, mayor Cockeral and new Oakland County exec. Brenda Lawrence. N.A.I.A.S. love the ideal. plans for a new arena is a done deal for Mike Illitch and his holdings co. |
Novine Member Username: Novine
Post Number: 436 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 9:38 am: | |
Lots of suburban communities are going to see a loss of population and not just in the inner-ring communities. |
Dannaroo Member Username: Dannaroo
Post Number: 188 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 10:08 am: | |
I think it will be just above 800,000 (maybe about 815,000). The slow trickle of people moving into the Midtown and Downtown areas don't even come close to making up for the people moving out of the city yet. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2721 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 10:59 am: | |
^I don't think people in the Detroit area are that mobile considering the local housing market's stagnation. I think the lack of housing demand is making it hard for current homeowners to move both out of and into the city. Anybody moving now is most likely leaving the state altogether. So this housing crisis might possibly be a blessing in disguise by finally stabilizing the city's population. |
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 3963 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 11:31 am: | |
2010 -- 830,000 2020 -- 785,000 2030 -- 720,000 2040 -- 665,000 2050 -- 680,000 2060 -- 750,000 2070 -- 850,000 Speculation is such fun. Unrealistic and pointless, but fun. (Message edited by Fury13 on February 20, 2008) |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1637 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 11:33 am: | |
2200 -- Ghost Town |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2722 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 11:36 am: | |
>Speculation is such fun. Unrealistic, but fun. How is speculation unrealistic? |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1638 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 11:39 am: | |
"How is speculation unrealistic?" What? |
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 3964 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 11:43 am: | |
It's pretty ridiculous. Most predictions of this sort are off. And what does it matter, anyway? What will be, will be. Hopefully, we'll see a diversification of the local economy down the line, and decreased dependence on the auto industry will result in growth in the later part of this century. Of course, many of us will be dead by then. |