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Lowell
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Post Number: 4775
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hint 1: I would not be asking this question without this birthday.

Hint 2: You are looking at it.

Hint 3: I am not talking about this website and forum.
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Eriedearie
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Birthday of the PC?
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Cdwaters
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Al Gore's invention?
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Rocknrollscientist
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Post Number: 118
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^The World Wide Web?
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Townonenorth
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hypertext? HTML?
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Johnlodge
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Post Number: 6280
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Verdana?
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Townonenorth
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Post Number: 24
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Web Browser?
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Detroitstar
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Post Number: 1068
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The mobile phone...which I use to access this site 90% of the time?
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Jjaba
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Post Number: 6381
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How old is The Forum?
jjaba.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Arial?
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Rocknrollscientist
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Post Number: 119
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was wrong. The WWW was created in 1989 by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN in Switzerland. Although, it was April 30th, 1993 when CERN announced that the WWW would be free for everyone to use.

Thank you, Wikipedia! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W orld_wide_web)
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Hornwrecker
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Post Number: 2009
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Comic Sans Serif?

Oops, that's only 13 years old, designed for MS's epic failure, Bob.
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Iheartthed
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Post Number: 3032
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:22 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm guessing it's something Detroit related considering that this is the "Discuss Detroit" section.
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Rocknrollscientist
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Post Number: 120
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:32 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's when Don Barden connected the city of Detroit via cable. Eventually he sold out to Comcast.
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Lowell
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Post Number: 4776
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Townonenorth is the winner with Rocknrollscientist a close second. The Mosaic web browser, the first html browser, was released. The browser required TLB's html [affectionate acronym for Tim Berners Lee in the web world, creator of html].

15 years ago today, there were 30 websites in the world. Like many great innovations, it was profoundly simple and amazingly deep. Early html had a total of 27 commands making it possible for amateurs like me to crib a page and enter cyberspace. In early 1994, I created my first website, also first artist website in Detroit, and off I went.

I would say a few things have changed since then, like a trillion dollar industry appearing out of thin air. The internet had been around for a long time, but this event is truly the break out moment.

It is arguably the most important event of the past two decades, possibly more. The implications in industry, social networking, politics, telephony, marketing, art and on and on are almost unfathomable.

I often note that I feel like I waited my whole life for it come along.

Happy birthday.
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Detroitstar
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Post Number: 1072
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lowell, are you saying that this site is one of the 30 oldest on the internet? If so, that is pretty amazing.
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Lowell
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No. Mosaic was launched April 23, 1993; I didn't create a website, and not this one, until early 1994. By that time there were probably 100K sites.

The predecessor to this site was "The Fabulous Ruins of Detroit", a 250 page webisode then at http://bhere.com/ruins and first launched unlinked in late 1996.
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Spacemonkey
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Post Number: 446
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very cool. I didn't know you invented the web browser. Props to ya.
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Ray1936
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Post Number: 3046
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, yesterday was also the 25th anniversary of the release of "War Games", with Matthew Broderick as David, the kid who nearly starts WW III. Great flick. The computer in "David's" room is actually an IMSAI 8080. Much of the computer science in the flick was actually hoo-ha, but it made for a good story.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Well, yesterday was also the 25th anniversary of the release of "War Games", with Matthew Broderick as David, the kid who nearly starts WW III. Great flick. The computer in "David's" room is actually an IMSAI 8080. Much of the computer science in the flick was actually hoo-ha, but it made for a good story.



I remember when that movie used to come on as one of the Channel 50 Saturday Afternoon movies.
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Sirrealone
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone remember D.A.R.Y.L.? Came out roughly the same time if I recall.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Happy birthday, Mosaic!

When I first got my hands on it I ran around and installed it on all my coworkers workstations. I just whispered cryptically, "You're really going to want this."

When you post a message here there's a checked option near the bottom of the page that says "Enable HTML code in message." Has anyone ever been able to include any true HTML here? For even a simple HTML comment, it gives me an error message.
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Sirrealone
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

During college, I took some classes one summer when the college was first getting connected to the WWW. I worked in the computer lab and Mosiac was installed for testing on the a couple of computers, but we weren't really supposed to be using it. Since there were very few people around during the summer months, it was usually just us lab rats in the lab. Our boss, an actual college employee, would come out of her office if she heard us talking about it, making sure that we weren't using it.

It got to be that when we were talking about any topic, we'd randomly insert the word 'Mosaic' into sentences just to see if we could get her to jump. Of course, once she realized we were messing around with her, she stopped coming out all the time, and we used it regularly.

Good times! Happy Birthday, Mosaic.
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Lowell
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jimaz, all the 'Enable HTML code in message' means is that if you type in an http:// web address, for example https://www.detroityes.com or use www as in www.detroityes.com, the program will automatically will create a link the code, ditto for email addresses. All other html is ignmored to prevent mischief.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Well, yesterday was also the 25th anniversary of the release of "War Games", with Matthew Broderick as David, the kid who nearly starts WW III. Great flick. The computer in "David's" room is actually an IMSAI 8080. Much of the computer science in the flick was actually hoo-ha, but it made for a good story.



Ray, I had a 300 baud accoustic coupler like the one used in that movie. You dialed the number of a BBS or other recipient modem, then put the phone receiver down onto the coupler when the CHHHHHHHHHHHHH started.
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Fishtoes2000
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 3:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

<p style="font-size:20pt; color: blue; font-weight: bold">Happy Birthday!</p>
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7andkelly
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 3:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of course before mosaic and http:// we had gopher:// !
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Jjaba
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 3:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lowell, then how's come your date of entry reads 10-03 and jjaba's reads 11-03 when we've been around alot longer? Can you tell the world when jjaba's first exciting post was on this Forum?
(Ditto for johnlodge, also 10-03.)
jjaba.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 3:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Early 90s, my brother told me he had to show me something and called me over to his office at WSU. Some of the faculty there were beginning to use Mosaic. After receiving a demonstration of Mosaic, I was not nearly as excited as many others were about it. I became very interested a couple of years later and built my first web-site, an entire 5 pages worth, in basic html, in 1996.
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Otter
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 5:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I soooo do not miss the pre-web text-client email that I had in college. Elm, pine, etc. - good riddance! I still find it a bit remarkable that "teh interweb" did not exist when I was in high school.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 6:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Lowell, then how's come your date of entry reads 10-03 and jjaba's reads 11-03 when we've been around alot longer? Can you tell the world when jjaba's first exciting post was on this Forum?
(Ditto for johnlodge, also 10-03.)
jjaba.



I have no idea when I joined! Or how I got a month on you somehow.
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Townonenorth
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 8:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey I won!

I remember the days of the 300 baud modem. When I got my first 14400 I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Of course BBS'ing was just fine text wise.

I don't know why the HTML doesn't work.


(Message edited by townonenorth on April 23, 2008)
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Townonenorth
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 8:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah never mind. I see Lowell has explained it all. No mischief with the html... Pays to read ALL the posts huh?
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Jimaz
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lowell, thanks for the explanation. You saved me from wasting too much time on it myself.

If I can ever help, just ask.

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