  Russix Member Username: Russix Post Number: 73 Registered: 11-2006 |
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20080511/ENT 04/805110538/1039 "Since 1967, more than 20,000 people in Detroit have been shot to death or otherwise killed. It's about time someone made a documentary like "Murder City."" | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 2489 Registered: 10-2006 |
It's about time that someone documented that Detroit has a high murder rate!! If it weren't for this documentary, everyone would have the impression that Detroit is a quite peaceful urban city (sarcasm implied). Give me a break! This subject or similar subjects is covered over and over again. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 1003 Registered: 05-2004 |
Sometimes the truth hurts. Until there is a major change, Detroit will not make a comeback. | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 202 Registered: 07-2007 |
Covered literally as well in the city, it seems. (Message edited by GreatLakes on May 12, 2008) | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 11672 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm curious why they chose 1967 as the cut off? The simple fact of the matter is that Detroit has always been a violent city. Using 67 as a possible arbitrary date makes me wonder. I am not defending the violemce that the city has seen in the last 40 years but let's not try to imply that everything was flowers and puppies prior to that infamous year. | ||
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey Post Number: 567 Registered: 03-2006 |
I would like to see this movie. | ||
Gaz Member Username: Gaz Post Number: 197 Registered: 04-2008 |
I don't know if I would watch this one. Detroit just does not need this. Let's look at the good things happening in Detroit and try to build on that. | ||
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55 Post Number: 1675 Registered: 09-2005 |
Yes, I think that Texas should also make a film documenting that they are the execution capitol of the U.S. It should do wonders for their economy. They really need to publicize that fact. A short documentary on how they are the religious cult capitol of the U.S. would probably do wonders also. | ||
Ladia Member Username: Ladia Post Number: 10 Registered: 05-2008 |
i don't like all the negative attention. | ||
Macknwarren Member Username: Macknwarren Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2007 |
As to the question of why use 1967 as some sort of cutoff date: I can't speak for the filmmaker, but the number of homicides jumped in the 66-67 era and have stayed high ever since. Same thing for most other serious crime, including arson and fires in general. Detroit had 225 homicides in 1926, right in the middle of Prohibition, Roaring 20s etc. The yearly homicide total never went over 200 again until 1966 (214). In 1967 it hit 281; '68 it was 389, then never went below 400 until 2000. So '67, the riot year, of course, actually is a rational cutoff. | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 203 Registered: 07-2007 |
quote: Um, violent, perhaps, but to varying degrees. In 1951, 129 homicides occurred in a city of more than 1.8 million. In 1964, there were 125 homicides. By 1974, there were 714 homicides. ref,ref2 | ||
Retroit Member Username: Retroit Post Number: 81 Registered: 04-2008 |
If you think this is bad, wait till Granholm's Film Incentive Package kicks in! There's no limit to Detroit as a setting for "gloom & doom" movies. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 11708 Registered: 10-2003 |
If we can leverage the blight and doom and gloom parts of the city to create jobs and bring in investment it is a good thing in my book. I woudl prefer the blight not exist but if we are dealing with it we may as well use it as an opportunity. | ||
Lombaowski Member Username: Lombaowski Post Number: 92 Registered: 11-2004 |
I bought this. It's on it's way via mail. | ||
Ladyinabag Member Username: Ladyinabag Post Number: 594 Registered: 03-2007 |
I bought it from Amazon as well; only $16.99 + shipping. Such a deal. | ||
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn Post Number: 236 Registered: 02-2005 |
I'd be interested to hear reviews of this documentary from other people on this forum. | ||
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey Post Number: 571 Registered: 03-2006 |
I just went to Amazon to buy a copy and it says they're out of stock. Huh. The DVD sold out. http://www.amazon.com/Murder-C ity-Detroit-Years-Violence/dp/ B00153ZQTG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8& s=dvd&qid=1210763766&sr=1-2 | ||
Nip Member Username: Nip Post Number: 126 Registered: 11-2003 |
The price dropped to $12.64 | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 1025 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Since 1967, nearly 800,000 people in America have been shot to death or otherwise killed. It's about time someone made a documentary about that fact. quote: Any attempt to examine violent crime in Detroit simply as a local problem, while ignoring the greater national problem, will only lead to misunderstanding and error. This is like asking why Las Vegas has one of the highest foreclosure rates in the country, without considering the nation-wide mortgage crisis as a possible factor. | ||
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey Post Number: 611 Registered: 03-2006 |
Nip: where? I would like to buy it. | ||
Nip Member Username: Nip Post Number: 127 Registered: 11-2003 |
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer -listing/B00153ZQTG/ref=dp_olp _2?ie=UTF8&qid=1210763766&sr=1 -2 Currently going for $11.99 | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 212 Registered: 07-2007 |
quote: They did. It's called Bowling for Columbine. quote: No, because the original question is "Why do Detroiters keep killing each other at such a high rate?" not just why do Detroiters kill each other as seen in other cities. Any attempt to paint Detroit's crime problems as just typical of national crime rates is both misleading and a disservice to Detroiters who want real results. | ||
Gaz Member Username: Gaz Post Number: 253 Registered: 04-2008 |
ANY area - not just Detroit - that has high unemployment, little or no money, a piss poor educational system, etc. is going to have crime. Why the media continues to single out Detroit is beyond me. St. Louis, Buffalo, Chicago - just about any where in the rust belt - has similar problems. Bring in jobs, businesses, upgrade the schools and get rid of the current city "leaders" and you will see a different city. | ||
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm Post Number: 1662 Registered: 02-2005 |
Gaz, I think the media focuses on Detroit because it has the highest per capita murder and overall violent crime rate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U nited_States_cities_by_crime_r ate |
