 
Waymooreland Member Username: Waymooreland
Post Number: 53 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 8:20 am: |   |
http://www.modeldmedia.com/dev elopmentnews/studioone14308.as px Typical Detroit -- retail space is constructed, getting everybody all excited about new stores coming into the city. Then we come to find out that it's basically just a couple of businesses vacating their current stores to move a couple blocks south on Woodward. Whoop-dee-frickin'-doo. |
 
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 267 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 9:21 am: |   |
Wasn't there an earlier thread about the current block where Utrecht is located? Something about Wayne State wanting to demo the whole block for a lecture space. |
 
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 7340 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 9:51 am: |   |
YAY! Keep on building Detroit. Show the world we mean business. Detroit's not a joke and a fool of the city. |
 
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 1200 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:15 am: |   |
"Typical Detroit -- retail space is constructed, getting everybody all excited about new stores coming into the city. Then we come to find out that it's basically just a couple of businesses vacating their current stores to move a couple blocks south on Woodward. " My thoughts exactly. Disappointing. This means more vacant store fronts on Woodward. And Danny, don't you mean a fool of a region? And what? No "KING KWAME" talk? Are you feeling OK? That's not like you to regurgitate the same ol' lines in a post. Surely this news about Radio Shack must have SOMETHING to do with "KING KWAME." |
 
Tiorted Member Username: Tiorted
Post Number: 140 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:21 am: |   |
quote:Wasn't there an earlier thread about the current block where Utrecht is located? Something about Wayne State wanting to demo the whole block for a lecture space i thought they wanted to put a hotel/conference center on that corner |
 
Mrsjdaniels Member Username: Mrsjdaniels
Post Number: 868 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:25 am: |   |
yeah hotel/conf center...but that never really got off the ground...guess it will now |
 
Birdie Member Username: Birdie
Post Number: 42 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:31 am: |   |
i heard (this may be only a rumor) that utrecht was possibly facing closure and that being able to move to this new, smaller space will allow them to remain open. i also heard that wayne state wanted that block for something. it's not as exciting as brand new businesses, but it's good to keep the business we do have afloat! |
 
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle
Post Number: 390 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:40 am: |   |
Yes WSU forced the tenants out and gave them a discount at the retail space that was better in price than the old space. The building will be leveled for a new conference center. The conference enter is 100% needded. Currently the largest auditorium @ WSU is the Community Arts Center. The auditorium is begging to show its age with haphazardly installed projectors, podiums and computer stations that get in the way of the screen and the amount of seating. With large speeches occurring with more frequency at WSU press takes up nearly 1/4 of the crowd and many are left standing outside. The latest case was when Dr. Kevorkian spoke last fall. Nearly 1/2 of the crowd was unable to attend. Lastly is that there are classes going on during all of this commotion right down the hall. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've been in a art history class and had the class disturbed by people yelling or running up and down the hall. Also with the volume of non students in the building and all of the various dangerous tools throughout the building I would have to believe it's becoming a liability for injury and theft. This will be a great thing for the university. -MDoyle, WSU Alum |
 
Waymooreland Member Username: Waymooreland
Post Number: 55 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:43 am: |   |
"Wasn't there an earlier thread about the current block where Utrecht is located? Something about Wayne State wanting to demo the whole block for a lecture space" "i heard (this may be only a rumor) that utrecht was possibly facing closure and that being able to move to this new, smaller space will allow them to remain open. i also heard that wayne state wanted that block for something." Well, in light of that, I take back what I said before -- this is very good news. Hopefully that Domino's will find some new digs, then, too. |
 
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn
Post Number: 853 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:44 am: |   |
Yes, building is to be demoed... Not like WSU has any vacant lots in its possession or anything... Oh well, that building is kinda ugly anyway. - andy |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6618 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:54 pm: |   |
How could that that Utrecht POSSIBLY be facing closure? There is a major art college across the street from them. They have a completely capitive monopoly now that they bought Charette's and closed them down. |
 
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 1430 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:10 pm: |   |
JOhnlodge, All those Art Students finally stumbled accross the internet where they now buy their supplies! |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6624 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:12 pm: |   |
Maybe. Often you can't wait that long to get your supplies though. You get an assignment that's due the next week and you need 24" x 35" watercolor paper, you can either order online or walk across the street, I'm thinking you'll walk across the street. CCS does have it's own store, but it's more expensive for the same stuff and has a smaller selection. |
 
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 230 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:58 pm: |   |
Aww, no new stores? Just relocating the old ones? Boo. Wait… are they going to demo the entire block with Utrecht on it? Marwil’s books as well? I had a feeling the old English and Psychology buildings were going to go, but how big is this conference center supposed to be? Given WSU’s track record with being so friendly and accommodating to small businesses, I’m disinclined to believe anything they say about the financial situation of a business that’s located where they want to be. Remember Z’s Place? Last I heard, Wayne officials wanted to build some sort of arch across Woodward, as a pseudo “gateway” to the university. Hope that idea was tossed in the trash! |
 
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 5777 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:00 pm: |   |
I think that would be nice to be honest with you. It would be a nice landmark if done right... |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6628 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:11 pm: |   |
They could put it on Anthony Wayne Drive or something. Woodward isn't really a "Gateway" to Wayne State. |
 
Troy Member Username: Troy
Post Number: 226 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:12 pm: |   |
the coffee shop is a new business. If the other stores are moved for neighborhood progress then that is a good thing. They still havent announced the restaurant they are trying to get either so there is more to come. |
 
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle
Post Number: 392 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:22 pm: |   |
Johnlodge, Anthony Wayne is not the gateway to WSU at all. It's Student housing on one side and huge parking structures on the other. Warren Ave is the main through fare of WSU. Evelyn, I think its going to be just the block with the utrecht, dominos, radio shack and subway. Also I think it will unfortunately include the old English Department, not marwill, epicurus ect. |
 
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 231 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:22 pm: |   |
Or near Cass. I just never thought of Woodward as a gateway to WSU, despite Wayne State’s officials understandable determination for the college to have a presence on Woodward. Anyone have links to the conference center plans? |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6632 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:27 pm: |   |
Yeah maybe Warren would be the best place, Mdoyle. |
 
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 232 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:34 pm: |   |
I had heard that WSU bought up the property Utrecht sits on. I hope they’ll leave some of those smaller shops alone, though. The fellows in the copy shop were nice guys. Now I’m all curious, and feel like digging through Board of Governors minutes. |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6633 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:39 pm: |   |
I heard they were going to bring these back from Baghdad for their gate.
 Artists Rendering |
 
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 11692 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:40 pm: |   |
That would obviously be a sign that the black people in the city are telling white people to stay out. |
 
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 646 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:44 pm: |   |
Is this the "old English Department" people are referring to? I would not be happy if Wayne State tore down that building. |
 
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle
Post Number: 393 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:48 pm: |   |
I just read through a good portion of the master plan and it seems like there is only one mention of a conference center and that was to be on Canfield. There is mention of student housing and a parking structure for that site. Aside from that it seems that little of the 2020 master plan has been realized. With only 12 years left they better get going quick. Much of the plan has to do with street scape, parking (redevelopment of misplaces and misused parking such as flat lots) and even mentions the development of a Woodward light rail line. |
 
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 5780 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:48 pm: |   |
lol John Lodge and Jt1 |
 
401don Member Username: 401don
Post Number: 449 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:52 pm: |   |
It's sad what has qualified as development news in modelD lately. |
 
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 233 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 3:04 pm: |   |
Thanks for the pic, Johnlodge! Where did you find it? But that image... more green glass and steel! Why, Wayne State? Why? |
 
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6637 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 3:10 pm: |   |
The picture, I dunno I just google image searched for wayne state campus. |
 
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 1431 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 3:28 pm: |   |
That pic is the new Education Commons building currently under construction on Canfield Easts of John R. It's part of the Medical School, not main campus and will connect Scott Hall to the lIbrary. The nice thing about this building is that it will turn the front entrance to the Medical School onto Canfield instead of the fortress like main entrance to Scott Hall which faces a courtyard instead of the street. The DMC has talked about building an arc over Mack or St. Antoine as part of the entrance to the DMC. I haven't heard anything about WSU building an arch over any street. |
 
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 234 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 4:20 pm: |   |
I heard it being tossed around as an idea during a WSU Board of Governors meeting, when they were discussing the plans to build the Welcome Center in 2001. I don't know if anything became of it, or if one of the governors just mentioned it. |
 
Courtney Member Username: Courtney
Post Number: 170 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 1:52 pm: |   |
Bear, no the old English dept building is at 51 W Warren. The picture you linked to is the Simons Building which houses University Press. |