Nyct Member Username: Nyct
Post Number: 95 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:55 am: | |
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20080513/BUS INESS04/805130314 |
Tiorted Member Username: Tiorted
Post Number: 141 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:57 am: | |
quote:Prices will range from about $100,000 to around $190,000. this project has zero chance of succeeding |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6616 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:02 am: | |
I think it's kind of cool, and would be a very Detroit-style place to live. This isn't the first I've heard of this type of development, I saw projects like this on TV in the past. |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 1474 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:07 am: | |
quote:this project has zero chance of succeeding you have an actual solid information to back that up, or are you just criticizing developers for actually trying to do something? |
Jonnyfive Member Username: Jonnyfive
Post Number: 135 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:10 am: | |
Pre-fab shipping containers or pre-fab concrete slabs like at the new apartments at Woodward and Forest? Personally, I think the shipping container rendering looks better and it even uses recycled materials. If it doesn't sell, it'll be for reasons other than an aversion to living in building made of recycled metal. |
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto
Post Number: 5068 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:11 am: | |
If people are willing to pay money for wood boxes made of chipboard, with a bit of plastic stapled around the outside, why wouldn't they pay money for a metal box? |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 1109 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:13 am: | |
Friends of my family in Copenhagen, Denmark live in reused shipping containers. Their home is just as modern and as comfortable, and perhaps even a bit more open than my own. I think this would be an interesting concep to explore in Detroit. |
Waymooreland Member Username: Waymooreland
Post Number: 57 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:16 am: | |
That's cool as hell. When I first read the topic, I thought the same thing as Tiorted, but after seeing the rendering and the photos of existing "Container City" projects, I actually really like it! (Message edited by waymooreland on May 13, 2008) |
Mwilbert Member Username: Mwilbert
Post Number: 225 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:17 am: | |
http://www.containercity.com/ This isn't an untried idea, just new to Detroit. |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 1475 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:18 am: | |
if anybody wants to see what it looks like in person, there's a small model/example inside MOCAD right now. the exhibit runs until 7/28. |
Nyct Member Username: Nyct
Post Number: 96 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:23 am: | |
i think it's a fantastic idea, especially from a developers standpoint. $1.8 million??? There's a potential to turn that into a lot more. Even the doubters have to admit that a development like this is at least slightly better than one burnt out house on an entire square block. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6617 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:24 am: | |
quote:If people are willing to pay money for wood boxes made of chipboard, with a bit of plastic stapled around the outside, why wouldn't they pay money for a metal box? Haha, you are SO right, Barnes. And watch all your friends come running over when there's a Tornado warning. |
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway
Post Number: 1678 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:31 am: | |
Actually, I am little surprised they're trying to pull this off as a for-sale development. I thought that style of housing and that location near Wayne State would make it more an ideal place for rentals. |
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav
Post Number: 544 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:24 pm: | |
If nothing else; dig a hole...drop in a shipping container - presto: instant storm (and marijuana-riot) shelter! |
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 457 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:37 pm: | |
I might of seen something similar to this in Architectural Record. It actually did look pretty nice. Although for $190,000, I hope spaces aren't all that confined. |
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 229 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:44 pm: | |
The pictures from the link look neat, but I have to ask the dumb question: how are these things to heat and cool? Are they easy to insulate and vent? I just see them getting very stuffy in a humid Michigan summer. |
Erikto Member Username: Erikto
Post Number: 701 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:53 pm: | |
I didn't see the pictures, but this idea has of course been tried. I was laughed at when I thought of this out loud when I worked on a loading dock, and a decade later (two weeks ago, actually) I was looking at a web page of cutting edge architecture, and there it was, a shipping container housing development. Containers are 20 and 40 feet long, standardized for trains and trucks. |
Jonnyfive Member Username: Jonnyfive
Post Number: 137 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:58 pm: | |
"presto: instant storm (and marijuana-riot) shelter!" Awesome. Gannon is convinced the marijuana riot is nearly upon us. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 3242 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:00 pm: | |
How terribly terribly sad:quote: there are 700,000 empty shipping containers piling up near U.S. ports around the country, including at a yard near Fort and I-75 in Detroit. The containers tend to be cheaper to build new than to return to their country of origin, so once delivered here and emptied, they pile up by the thousands. brings to mind the words of Shelley:quote:My name is Ozymandias, king of kings Look on my works ye mighty and despair! Nothing beside remains: but the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare, and the level lone sands stretch far away. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6621 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:06 pm: | |
Yeah, and it's wasteful too. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6622 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:08 pm: | |
Look at this house made from shipping containers:
You can't even tell. They put vinyl siding on it, which really camoflauges it. |
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav
Post Number: 546 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:12 pm: | |
Rustic.... Sadly, the (real) reason shipping containers tend not to return to point-of-origin speaks more to the horrendous trade imbalance between the US and our so-called trading partners. |
Mwilbert Member Username: Mwilbert
Post Number: 226 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:31 pm: | |
"Sadly, the (real) reason shipping containers tend not to return to point-of-origin speaks more to the horrendous trade imbalance between the US and our so-called trading partners." There was some truth to this, but not so much right now. This is from the April 10th Wall Street Journal (unfortunately behind paywall) What has happened now has thrown a wrench into the works. Cutbacks by U.S. consumers have slowed the growth of imports, while the weak dollar is making the U.S. into an export machine. Meanwhile, the places where most of these exports are originating are far from where boxes are being unpacked and soaring energy costs make it too costly to just load them on trucks and move them around. "There are some places, particularly in the Midwest, where there's a complete lack of containers," says Philip Damas, the head of container research at Drewry Shipping Consultants in London. |
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster
Post Number: 2267 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:35 pm: | |
Looks like someone's been reading their Dwell magazines.
quote:I might of (sic) seen something similar to this in Architectural Record. It actually did look pretty nice. Although for $190,000, I hope spaces aren't all that confined. The $190k one is apparently 1920 sf. That's a great value. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 7347 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:46 pm: | |
Shipping containers for condos. Could be a good ideal for the 21st Century. |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 1828 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:50 pm: | |
I'd do it. Talk about unique. And living in a metal box isn't much different than living in a plywood box or a concrete box. Obviously it would be finished (and insulated) inside to your liking. |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 4045 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:58 pm: | |
Shipping container refugee housing: http://www.vestaldesign.com/de sign/shrimp-refugee-housing/ |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 1477 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 1:59 pm: | |
$190,000 is for the largest on. it'll be 3 bedroom, 3 bathrooms. the nice thing about the shipping containers is that the corrugated metal siding is not structural; you can take it out anywhere you want without compromising the integrity of the individual boxes. bedrooms will average about 12ft. x 12ft. the larget unit will have a living/dining area of about 20ft. x 32ft. (four 20ft. boxes put together. all units will have a 6ft. x 16ft. balcony. you can also insulate the boxes to be just as efficient (if not more) as regular housing). if anybody wants to get a feel for how they can be fit out on the inside and out, i strongly encourage you to see the installation at MOCAD. keep your eye on thepowerofgreenhousing(dot)com for more updates on floorplans and elevations. |
Blueidone Member Username: Blueidone
Post Number: 224 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:09 pm: | |
Pam: That refugee housing looks great! Easy to ship wherever it's needed. Easy to put up. Much better than the "trailers" they used in New Orleans I would think! What a wonderful idea to use these for housing! |
Troy Member Username: Troy
Post Number: 227 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 2:27 pm: | |
I love this project. I was hoping to do one in the future as well for a personal residential project. There are a lot of great sites out there with concepts and actual builds. This would be a great addition to Detroit. I just wish it was planned for the cass corridor. So I could walk by it each time I cruise the neighborhood. http://www.demariadesign.com/i ndex.php?option=com_content&ta sk=view&id=22 http://www.architectureandhygi ene.com/main.html |
Sumotect Member Username: Sumotect
Post Number: 286 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 5:26 pm: | |
I like the work of Lot-ek http://www.lot-ek.com/ They make those boxes look pretty cool. |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 1479 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 6:05 pm: | |
pretty mod, but very cool: http://archinect.com:80/featur es/article.php?id=74943_0_23_0 _C the project here was just on channel 7's news at 5. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 6811 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 6:20 pm: | |
Some of these container cities are reminiscent of the "Habitat" housing of the 1967 Expo '67 Worlds Fair in Montreal. |
Retroit Member Username: Retroit
Post Number: 82 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 6:31 pm: | |
One man's trash is another man's ..... home! The ingenuity of man is truly amazing! Now if only we could figure out how to turn abandoned HOUSES into livable homes! |
Dds Member Username: Dds
Post Number: 622 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 7:00 pm: | |
If I'm not mistaken, there is a house of this kind on the Leelanau Peninsula overlooking Lake Leelanau. It always looked very cool. Similar to the pic Johnlodge posted earlier in this thread. |
Treelock Member Username: Treelock
Post Number: 322 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 8:16 pm: | |
Supersweet. |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 1480 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 10:38 am: | |
national press: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0 ,2933,355295,00.html http://www.treehugger.com/file s/2008/05/container-condo-detr oit.php http://www.wkrg.com/news/artic le/shipping_container_condos/1 3846/ another cool example from salt lake city: http://www.citycenterlofts.net /index.html |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 11727 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 10:46 am: | |
Can we buy these for some of our CC members, then lock the door and put the containers on a ship to a faraway land? |
Elsuperbob Member Username: Elsuperbob
Post Number: 123 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 1:20 pm: | |
Here's another take on it by Andrew Maynard. Living in a pile of shipping containers that is constantly reconfigured. http://www.andrewmaynard.com.a u/corb.htm |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 576 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 2:02 pm: | |
I don't want to live in a shipping container. |
Blueidone Member Username: Blueidone
Post Number: 227 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 2:04 pm: | |
^^^ Kind of reminds me of the movie "I Robot" in the scene where the main character finds all the old robots... But I still think the idea is a great one for using up the piles of these things and providing new housing. I'm hoping that after the designs get finalized and some projects are built, the cost will drop a little. |
Mayor_sekou Member Username: Mayor_sekou
Post Number: 2361 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 2:15 pm: | |
Its better than whats in the area now which is exactly nothing and Woodbridge so yeah go right ahead and build away. |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 579 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 4:21 pm: | |
Reminds me of a scene in "Dexter". |
Mackcreative Member Username: Mackcreative
Post Number: 230 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 4:40 pm: | |
I would love to live in one of those units, too bad I'm stuck in my absolutely lovely home in the area of "exactly nothing and Woodbridge." |
Monahan568 Member Username: Monahan568
Post Number: 311 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 7:05 pm: | |
so let me get this straight we can't sell any more lofts/ apts but we are going to convert shipping boxes into condos all of the people on this site that think this is a good idea are the same red stripe drinking / american spirt smoking people who think that the cass corridor is a great cultural area. cue the whores and make mine a blonde! (Message edited by monahan568 on May 14, 2008) |
Mackcreative Member Username: Mackcreative
Post Number: 231 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 9:24 pm: | |
Please get this straight: good green design replacing a burnt down building, if getting behind that makes one some sort of caricature to you that's fine, though you're totally off base. |
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 1209 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 10:30 pm: | |
The best part about them (the containers), is that they are bullet proof, unlike their poor mans equivalent: the cardboard box. Make mine a double wide! |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 5358 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 10:49 pm: | |
They're nice but too strong.
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Django Member Username: Django
Post Number: 368 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 10:52 pm: | |
I knew a couple of dudes who moved out of S.F. and bought some beautiful land in No. Cal. They had a couple of thoes containers delivered up there to their mountain top to live in while they built their dream house. Total old school gay hippies. They were awsome. By now there house should be done. Thoes containers worked well for them long before anyone else thought of using them for that kind of thing |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 3243 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 11:23 pm: | |
live in a shipping container ... and THIS could be your vacation home ....
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Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 4779 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 11:50 pm: | |
I think it's pretty cool, just strange to see such a space-saving, fairly dense design in a Detroit neighborhood. |
Terridarlin Member Username: Terridarlin
Post Number: 61 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 6:21 am: | |
Rustic, very funny POD vacation home. I think it's an interesting idea, but I see it more in a community like Seattle. I took Lowell’s latest tour, and with so much magnificent architecture slated to be torn down; I have to wonder why live in a shipping container? |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 3244 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 11:24 am: | |
"why live in a shipping container?" sheet metal blocks gummint mind kkkontrol rays. |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 587 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 11:28 am: | |
Why not build cheap new Detroit public schools out of these? |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 3245 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 2:13 pm: | |
"Why not build cheap new Detroit public schools out of these?" sheet metal blocks gummint mind kkkontrol rays. |
Pgn421 Member Username: Pgn421
Post Number: 563 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 6:59 pm: | |
i saw an ocean container at Detroit Harbor Terminal years ago.the doors were blown off. it had navy beans that ,was in the hot sun,a gas formed inside.it looked like a bomb hit it |