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Zrx_doug
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is weird..a friend lives in an apartment complex owned by Hartman & Tyner (They seem to own a LOT of 'em in Michigan, as well as numerous dog & horse tracks, casinos, etc..)
Anyway, this friend is questioning the natural gas billing for his apartment. It seems that he's being billed for measured units of natural gas in three different categories (heating, cooking, and hot water), despite the fact that there are no individual metering devices for each apartment (much less three of 'em).
His whining led me to do a little bit of searching, and I found that this company had been in trouble for this in the past, agreeing to revamp their billing process to fit within the Public Service Commission guidelines back in '05.
Here's the thing..he's paying more in all three categories for a one bedroom single occupant apartment than families of three/four in the same building are.
It seems that this company is screwing it's tenants, and I was wondering if any of y'all on the forum were familiar with this issue, or if there was any sort of legal doings in the works.
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Blueidone
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't now if there are any legal doings, but my apartment complex out in Warren uses the same company. All the office can tell me is that they use a formula based on size of unit, number of occupants and such.

This winter it was ok because all my bills were under $60...but last winter, I had some that were $150...for two people in 1100 sq feet, and we keep the heat at 68 to 70.

Please let me know if you learn anything more, and if you have the MPSC guidelines, I'd love to know what they are.
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Zrx_doug
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't really find anything other than what I already mentioned..just do a Google search for "Hartman and Tyner," you'll get a few hundred pages of stuff to read thru, very little of it flattering to the landlords.

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