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Umbound
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 5:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plum Market is opening up a third location where the old Farmer Jack was in West Bloomfield. How does everyone that lives in the area think it will do? You've got Hillers right across the street and the Whole foods a mile down. Whats the opinion anyone?
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Atwater
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 6:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And Busch's is opening a location in the spot where Kroger was, at 14 Mile and Farmington Rds, which is 2 miles away from that location, and 1 mile from the Whole Foods. I do wonder what will happen..

(Message edited by Atwater on May 24, 2008)
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 6:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, if it's not an "upscale" market, then it should do fine (as the bargain grocer). :-)
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Umbound
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 6:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, there is so much competition around that area, i know i live here in WB, i think it will be interesting, Ive never heard of Busch's though? is it an upscale grocer like Plum and Hillers Atwater?
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 7:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes it is.

Busch's
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Atwater
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 7:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, Busch's is upscale, Plum Market is upscale, Whole Foods is, obviously.. Hiller's is the least upscale of them all, and it's definitely of a higher caliber than Farmer Jack or Kroger.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 8:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is kinda random, but how can Bloomfield Hills receives 4 (or 5) different gourmet markets and Grosse Pointe doesn't have any? :-)
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Crawford
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 8:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Because Bloomfield Hills is a lot richer than the Pointes.

Moreover, there are hundreds of thousands of high-income residents surrounding the Bloomfields in central Oakland County while the Pointes are surrounded by water or low-to-middle income communities.
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Umbound
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 8:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I Dont think BH has four or five? but i didnt know that Grosse Point does not have any. Thats weird i think GP would have a few, i dont know i have never been to Grosse Point ever in my 20 years of living.
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Jman
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 8:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I find Hillers much more upscale than Busch. Particularly in the meat and produce depts.
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Crawford
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 8:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, Busch isn't really upscale, unless "better than Farmer Jack" qualifies as upscale.

They are in all sorts of blue collar rural towns between Ann Arbor and the Ohio border.

I would say only Whole Foods and Plum Market qualify as upscale.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 10:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I liked it better when the gas station/garage on the southwest corner was run by Iggy Katona.

You kiddies won't have a clue about Iggy. Your loss.
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Gnome
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Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 7:36 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Iggy the racer? You knew Iggy?
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Gistok
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Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 2:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who says Grosse Point doesn't have a gourmet grocer? It may not be big, but there's a small grocer on Fisher Rd. across from Grosse Pointe South that caters to the Grosse Pointe palette.

And have any of you been to the (former Farmer Jack) Kroger on Mack Ave. between Moross & Vernier? They have a gourmet bakery, deli and meat department that compare favorably with the true gourmet stores.

And then there's other gourmet stores. There's a gourmet liquor store on Mack north of Vernier. And Josef's Bakery a few blocks north of the liquor store is about as gourmet as you can get when it comes to baked goods.

There's other gourmet stores in the Grosse Pointes that may not be a big box gourmet store, but they can hold their own.

One other reason for no big gourmet stores in the Grosse Pointes is the lack of space for building, and not some "they aren't as rich as we thought" theory.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 3:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Used to pull for Iggy all the time at Motor City Speedway, Eight Mile and Schoenerr, in an earlier life. He was a helluva driver. No, didn't know him, was just a fan.

On Channel 7. Fred Wolf, Commentator for the Monday night races.

How could you forget? :-)
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Newlaster
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Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 6:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was just in a Plum Market for the first time last week in Ann Arbor.

It is absolutely phenomenal, everything is amazing looking and well thought out.

It is expensive, but you can actually find deals there, unlike Whole Foods.

I like the market MUCH better than Whole Foods. Amazing bakery, hot foods, etc.
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Umbound
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Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 10:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah the owners Marc and Matt Jonna really know what they're doing. I hope they do great at the Orchard Lake and Maple location, its going to be tough for them but i think they will do ok.
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Hudkina
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Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 1:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL. Busch's is not upscale. Go to the Busch's in Carleton, MI down in Monroe County and tell me how upscale it is.
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Atwater
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Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 2:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I actually haven't been inside a Busch's, so I was going off of what I'd heard from others.
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56packman
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Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 7:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hiller's meat department is tops, I'll have to see how Plum Market compares.
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Chris_rohn
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 1:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I liked that Hillers better when it was called "Shopping Center Market"
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Gertrude
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 2:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of the Busch's are quite upscale while others are not. The Busch's in Farmington on Grand River and Drake is comparable to the Hiller's on 14 Mile Road in Commerce/Walled Lake and it has a better selection of microbrew than just about anywhere else in the area. I imagine that the Busch's on 14 Mile in that old Kroger spot will also be quite nice.

I hope Plum Market is quite successful in their new space. I hate seeing that space empty when I drive out that way.
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Swingline
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 3:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Residents in the Pointes would consider the Village Market on Mack Avenue and Trader Joe's on Kercheval as upscale markets. The fancy Kroger and the Yorkshire Market on Mack, as well as Mullier's Market on Kercheval also cater to the Bon Apetit crowd.
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Treelock
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 3:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aside from any demographic reasons, the Grosse Pointes also have a well-earned meat-and-potato reputation. That's why even lauded restaurants like the Hill serve essentially very well-prepared but totally standard, classic dishes prime rib, Dover sole, etc. I know when I lived there, it was very difficult to find anywhere close by to eat that wasn't either a diner or Italian. And if you got hungry after midnight, forget about it.
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Kpm
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 3:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone heard about Plum Market's plans in Royal Oak recently? I thought they were going in Main North at 11 and Main. That would be a similarly competitive market with Holiday, Hollywood, Westborn, and Hiller's all nearby. Trader Joes, too. Plus A few Krogers and Meijers. I guess only the strong will survive.

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