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News950
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 6:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.wwj.com/Nathaniel-A braham-Arrested/2279636
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Raptor56
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 6:31 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So much for being rehabbed. So much for the great Nathaniel Project. wah wah wah
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Iseries840
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 6:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dumbass!
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Peter
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 6:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's suprising...
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Shark
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 7:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome. I wonder if he was wearing those pink gators?
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Iseries840
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 7:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is so awesome about a dumbass selling drugs?
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Spitty
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 7:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe Oprah will help him out. Everyone deserves a third, fourth, and fifth chance... at least until their rap career really takes off.
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Viziondetroit
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No comment... we are using catholic league rules... STRIKE 2... YOU'RE OUT!
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Higgs1634
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the only thing surprising about this is that it took this long.
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Shark
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:09 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One wonders how he scored himself a Cadillac convertible?
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The_rock
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think of the late Recorder's Court judge, Henry Heading, who would tell a defendant to whom he had bent over backwards to give a break:
"And if you violate the terms of your probation, the only thing that will beat you back to Jacktown are the lights on the bus".
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not suprising.. I thought jail was supposed to make you a better criminal... errrrr, i mean rehabed.
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Buyamerican
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm surprised it took this long to arrest him. He was a punk when he got out of prison and he will never be anything different.
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Bigcab
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck.....
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Pffft
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A requirement of probation should have been a "real" job, not a hoped-for career as a rapper, which was a recipe for failure.
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Iseries840
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

His CD sales should shoot through the roof!
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Club_boss
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Typically working is a condition of probation, working as in receiving a paycheck and then submitting the paycheck stubs when he reports.
Again, typically he would also have court costs and fines (if any) to pay off as well.

“As the officers approached, they asked to see Abraham’s hand, and he said he was just changing a tire.
He didn’t see the guys coming up behind him, and he threw away a bag, said Pontiac police Sgt. Kevin Braddock.
When officers recovered a purple Crown Royal liquor bag, they found inside 254 individual tablets of the street drug ecstasy. Police said the pills typically sell on the street for between $10 and $30 each. Abraham was arrested without incident, and the vehicle, which did have a flat, was impounded. They expect to arraign him as early as 11 a.m. today on drug charges in Pontiac District Court, court officials said.”

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20080530/NEW S03/80530045/&imw=Y
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Pffft
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Typically" -- yeah. But I read nothing about a job in the accounts following his parole, just that he was going to be a rapper.
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Atwater
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

A requirement of probation should have been a "real" job, not a hoped-for career as a rapper, which was a recipe for failure.



Definitely, spot on.
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Gingellgirl
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay, who had May 30, 2008 in the pool?
Time to pay up!

(Message edited by Gingellgirl on May 30, 2008)
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Smogboy
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why is it the Detroit News & Freep sites insist on showing this guy in his January 18th pimp daddy outfit? Couldn't they have found a more recent photo to toss at us?
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the pimp outfit sums him up. They do have a more recent photo; his mug shot. Works fine, too.
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Buyamerican
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He's a thug, the pimp outfit is what he wanted to be identified with, otherwise he would have walked out of prison in normal clothing.

He thought he was a big man who beat the system and he got lots of handouts. Prison is where he needs to stay, because the next step is violence for him.
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Smogboy
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Prison is where he needs to stay, because the next step is violence for him."

Uh... didn't he already kill someone before? Granted he didn't get the full sentence but I still wouldn't be as so bold to make that leap of knowing what he's going to do next. Yeah, let's bust this guy for his new drug habit but let's not start tossing people away based upon what he MIGHT do.
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Craig
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll take that bet, Smog. As a taxpayer and simply as a member of society I regret the fact that he is fouling up, but a dollar of my virtual money says that this guy never makes good and probably hurts someone else.
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Smogboy
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Craig, I'm not saying that I wouldn't hedge my bet that he's going to do more wrong, but legally and morally we can't bust this guy for future crimes... unless we're talking about the Tom Cruise "Minority Report" movie here.
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Gianni
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You people sure are smug. Perhaps you would prefer the Free Press forums.

Let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone. I'm sure none of you has ever had anything to do with drugs. (Sarcastically)

I'm no fan of this guy but I have no doubt he learned more about being a criminal in prison as a child than he did before went to prison as a child. Good people had hope and tried to help him. They were disappointed, which happens a lot in life. But hopefully it won't be the last time a good, hopeful person tries to help someone who fucked up.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting thoughts. No wonder Michigan has the largest prison system in the country.
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Craig
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with you on the legal end: presumed innocence, no Big Brother thought crime, etc.

Morally... not so sure. Also, I'm not sure that I want to take up the cause for criminal profiling on a Friday and after lunch. Some other time.
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Diehard
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From the Freep:

Wayne County Circuit Judge Craig Strong, who had supported Abraham and went clothes shopping with him last year, had trouble processing the news.

In Abraham's defense, at least on the fashion tip, have you seen some of the clown suits Craig Strong wears?