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Boynamedsue
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 3:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://multimedia.detnews.com/ pix/photogalleries/newsgallery /10142008_fortshelby/
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Tkshreve
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 3:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very nice. Are they going contemporary or historical in regards to the public areas. The rooms look somewhere inbetween.
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Patrick
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 3:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if they are going to handpaint over the fading "Hotel Fort Shelby" lettering that faces Fort Street.
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401don
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 4:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, looks like it should be ready in a few weeks.
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Rjlj
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 4:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

8 weeks from now is their goal.
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Burnsie
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 6:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

8 weeks seems pretty optimistic, given the still pretty raw condition of the big public rooms.
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Bob
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 6:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe they will open the hotel portions while still finishing the ballrooms/convention facilities. The BC is still opening restaurants and pool even though the hotel and ballrooms are open.
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Spiritofdetroit
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 6:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The will do everything they can to open it up by the Auto Show - finished or not.

Greektown Hotel is going to open whatever floors they have finished for the show as well.
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Detroit_pride
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 6:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hotel should be open, by the end of the year. \

The apartments won't be ready and will be open, shortly after the hotel opens.
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401don
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 7:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was actually joking in my post. It looks a long way from ready. It will probably be a very soft opening in time for the auto show. Probably just the lobby, guest suites, elevator.
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Dalangdon
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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 11:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bump :-)

Any news about this next great hotel renaissance?
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Johnberk
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Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 3:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update in Saturday's Detroit News:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20081115/B IZ/811150414
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Busterwmu
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Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 12:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope they repaint that old ad on the Fort St. side of the building. Way to make it historical and modern at the same time. :-)
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Gistok
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 3:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The first link (of the original post to this thread) mentions that "architectural details of the ballroom will be recreated on canvas"...

The Book Cadillac had the ornate plasterwork of the ballroom recreated... but it sounds like the Fort Shelby will go the cheaper route, and have stencil work instead (architectural details painted onto a flat surface).
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Gnome
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 3:32 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does it bug anyone else that the Fort Shelby isn't at Fort and Shelby? It's at Layfayete and Cass... explain that to someone who could not care less about the War of 1812 or General Hull giving up to the Brits.

Truly, is there any cache in the name "Fort Shelby" beyond a few Detroitophiles? Do you really think people around the nation are saving their pennies just so they can come to Detroit and stay at the Fort Shelby?
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 5:35 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you seriously whining about the name of the hotel? Misery strikes again. It's an infection.
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Bertz
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 10:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just curious, was any of the FS interior salvaged or was it a complete and total gut-out like the BC?
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Busterwmu
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 11:26 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gnome - it is named after the Fort at Detroit.... Fort Shelby. Not named for the corner of nearby Fort & Shelby streets...

Sorry Gistok! :-)

(Message edited by busterwmu on November 16, 2008)
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Gistok
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Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 2:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Busterwmu... your barking up the wrong tree! :-)

Take that issue up with Gnome...

I only get annoyed with cheap plasterwork! :-(
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Gnome
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 5:21 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Buster, yes, I know about Fort Shelby, you know about Fort Shelby and Gistock knows about Fort Shelby. We know there is a hotel in Detroit named after Fort Shelby.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F ort_Shelby_(Michigan)

I guess my question is, does anyone else in the general public?

But if it makes sense to keep the name around, and eveyone agrees, who am I to argue. It's just a thing that bugs me, like Warren Ave not being near the city of Warren.

I guess I'll just have to learn to live with my personal little tragedies. ~sigh~
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Rjlj
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 9:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^ You must get really confused when you are on Michigan Ave. in Chicago Illinois. How dare they.
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Burnsie
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 11:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok-- I see what you are saying, in that the *technique* of re-creating plaster in the B-C might have been better than what they're doing at the Fort Shelby.

But it's also worth clarifying for new readers of this topic that only *some*, probably less than half, of the plaster detail of the B-C Grand Ballroom was recreated. I realize that it was too expensive for Ferchill too 100% recreate the ornament, but there was some "completely restored" talk in the media that was misleading. Perhaps it's most accurate to say that the B-C was *renovated*, in a partially historically inspired manner.

It appears that the only interior decor of the BC that's completely original are the railings in the Grand (Venetian) Ballroom. Again, I'm not criticizing Ferchill on this point, but it's also worth pointing out.
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Dalangdon
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 9:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Do you really think people around the nation are saving their pennies just so they can come to Detroit and stay at the Fort Shelby?"

Probably not - but do you really think they're saving those same pennies to stay at a Doubletree? ;-)

I'm sympathetic to the idea of keeping the local and regional names. I'm still miffed at Federated for turning our classy-sounding Bon Marche department stores into Macy's. But, as usual, it's all about the bucks - and if they can order a million reams of Doubletree stationary (and soap, and napkins, etc etc etc), instead of 100,000 reams of Fort Shelby stuff, they're going to go with the Doubletree stuff
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Peterhuntprincess
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Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 5:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't find info anywhere about the apartments. Anybody have a link to rental information?
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Ltdave
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Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 6:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thats like having 'Gratiot Ave' anywhere other than in Fort Gratiot, Michigan...

or the countless times i hear that Gratiot starts downtown Detroit and goes north-east out past Mt. Clemens...

for those who DONT know, Captain (eventually Colonel) Charles Gratiot, Jr, built Fort St. Joseph later renamed Fort Gratiot on the eastern most point of Michigan in Port Huron. he was instructed to build a military road to Detroit, now known as Gratiot Avenue or M-3...
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Nickstone
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 4:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just saw in the article that the apartments are starting at 1600... yikes...
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Thejesus
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 5:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"just saw in the article that the apartments are starting at 1600..."

but how can one complain about price when the the city services you get are unlike any place else in SE Michigan :P
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Busterwmu
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Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Historic Fort Shelby Hotel to reopen as Doubletree

BY JOHN GALLAGHER FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER December 14, 2008

It wasn't so long ago that trees were growing out of the roof of the historic but derelict Fort Shelby Hotel in downtown Detroit.

Monday afternoon, the onetime eyesore reopens after three dark decades as the newly remade Doubletree Guest Suites Fort Shelby, the latest of several new or reborn hotels downtown.

The $90-million Doubletree joins the Westin Book Cadillac and hotels at the MGM Grand and MotorCity casinos that opened recently. The Greektown Casino Hotel is due to open in early 2009.

When the Doubletree throws open its doors at 4 p.m. Monday it will be with little or no fanfare. A grand opening charity event to benefit Ronald McDonald House is to be held in late February.

Five guests were booked to stay Monday night as of Friday, said Shannon Dunavent, the Doubletree's general manager. The hotel's new Bearclaw Coffee Co. shop will open Monday afternoon, while the upscale Finn & Porter restaurant will open later in the week.

Located on Lafayette between First and Second, the hotel will feature 203 suite-type guest rooms and 56 rental apartments on upper floors. When the housing market recovers, the apartments could be sold as condominiums, much as the upper floors of the Westin Book Cadillac were turned into condos.

The Fort Shelby dates to 1916, with a 22-story tower designed by architect Albert Kahn added in 1927. The hotel closed in the 1970s and was thought by many to be a candidate for demolition before Detroit-area real estate investors Emmett Moten, Leo Phillips and others teamed with Doubletree to bring the property back from the dead.

Dunavent said she is not deterred by opening the hotel during the worst economic climate in decades.

"This is my seventh hotel opening. I've been around 25 years in this industry. And of all my openings, this is one of my openings I feel the most confident about.

"I can tell you we really feel that we fill a niche that just has not been delivered here in Detroit, and we know we are going to appeal to people and to businesses because of that."

That niche blends the hotel's all-suites format with an upscale restaurant and conference facilities designed to meet the certification standards of the International Association of Conference Centers.

"We have a very boutique and a very homey feel, which is what Doubletree represents," Dunavent said. "It's definitely a different style hotel, and that's not something that's been in the city here, and I think that because of that we will stand alone. So I'm not concerned about the economy."

Even so, the economy presents a challenge. Chuck Skelton, an Ann Arbor-based hotel consultant with the firm Hospitality Advisors, said the weak economy has softened occupancy rates at downtown hotels this year from about 59%-60% in 2007 to 51%-52% for the first half of this year.

But if the economy is weak, the Doubletree, Westin and casino hotels may be able to attract travelers who previously had stayed elsewhere in metro Detroit.

"It's too early to tell, but my guess is that some of those new big full-service hotels are going to suck some demand in from the suburbs," Skelton said.

And, of course, the Doubletree opens just in time for the North American International Auto Show in January and the SAE World Congress and the NCAA Final Four in early April.

Contact JOHN GALLAGHER at 313-222-5173 or gallagher@freepress.com.

http://www.freep.com/article/2 0081214/BUSINESS04/812140462

There is also a photo gallery at this link.
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Huggybear
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Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Impressive. Most impressive.

People can gripe all they want about stencil work, but it's the same thing that has been used in European palaces for centuries.

I personally am impressed that they saved as much of the original interior as they did. This was a much lower-profile project than the B-C, and the owners seem to have done a good job.
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401don
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Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 9:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soft opening is an understatement. I'm not sure how they got 5 guests booked for Monday when their website still says they don't open until Jan. 10.
By the way I got a room at the Courtyard downtown on Priceline for Sat. Dec. 27 for 80 bucks.
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Designerguy24
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 9:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone going to the opening at 4pm to check it out?
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Big_baby_jebus
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 9:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Take a tour through the Fort Shelby before the renovation. Be sure to view the slide show for all the pictures.

http://onlyndetroit.com/
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Gistok
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 1:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Huggybear... maybe you can point out the thread where anyone at all "griped" about the stencilwork? No one did... Bursnie and I just brought it to everyone's attention...
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Lmichigan
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Check this out. I found the site for the apartment towers. The prices are crazy-expensive even for the high-end rental product, if you ask me. Apparently, Fourmidable is managing the property

http://fortshelby.com/
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Detroit_stylin
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 9:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah those are some insane- midtown manhattan type prices....

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