Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986
Post Number: 480 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 1:23 pm: | |
A common theme with many Detroit officials is an excessive amount of detail in comparison with the merits of their position. Though it is not unprecedented for the superintendent to have detail, we can still ask why? More specifically, why does Connie Calloway need detail? When we face a tight budget and threatened closers and layoffs, it seems a good place to cut the fat is Calloway’s detail. Is this just to feed her ego or does she really merit it? http://freep.com/article/20081 117/NEWS01/811170329 |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 3661 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 1:39 pm: | |
Somebody might throw grapes at her. |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 514 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 2:11 pm: | |
I'm no fan of Calloway but she does need at most one person. She was brought here partly(mostly) to cut heads and downsize the district. She is kind of short and potentially a target of laid off employees,unhappy parents and community people. She doesn't need 24/7 security however. |
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo
Post Number: 298 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 2:12 pm: | |
Heaven knows they have been throwing enough money at them over the years. |
Savannah Member Username: Savannah
Post Number: 80 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 6:38 pm: | |
This would be funny,but nobody's laughing. As long as it's for ejukashun, the Americanus dumbassus will shell out for anything. |
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 540 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 6:49 pm: | |
Are you kidding me? If I had that job, I'd be asking for the USMC to be my guards. |
Savannah Member Username: Savannah
Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 7:12 pm: | |
I'm sorry, I guess when you are of the Commissar rank in this "Great society" you are entitled to such nonsense. |
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 747 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 7:38 pm: | |
Something is totally wrong when a school district's Superintendent needs protection. Is this unique to Detroit? You don't see civilized school districts needing protection. |
Savannah Member Username: Savannah
Post Number: 85 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 7:50 pm: | |
I think "civilized" is they key word here. |
Kevgoblu Member Username: Kevgoblu
Post Number: 182 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 7:59 pm: | |
I don't think there's any reason in the world for her to have 2 security guards following her around all day. That being said, it is kinda ironic that the board is asking her to cut this cost. Aren't they the ones that hired her and approved the terms of her contract? |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 1404 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 8:34 pm: | |
Considering she is my "boss" and I wouldn't know her on the street, I don't think she needs bodyguards...especially when I don't have enough BOOKS! |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 2901 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 9:06 pm: | |
"Detroit schools chief Calloway asked to cut her security " that and her calorie intake. |
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo
Post Number: 300 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 9:52 pm: | |
I guess if you had her type of job approval, you'd need some security guards too. Hard to say who'd want to do her more harm...fellow board members or parents of students stuck in the crummy school system. I had to laugh when I read one guard got in trouble when he wouldn't carry her purse. |
Sludgedaddy Member Username: Sludgedaddy
Post Number: 221 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 9:59 pm: | |
DPS could save a hell of a lot of monies if they would arm Ms. Calloway the way the Nuns were back in the days of Catholic education.....with a pointer and a ruler! |
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289
Post Number: 700 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 1:56 am: | |
I don,t see the need for her to have a body guard. The super in my district and also my boss don,t warrant it even under fire from the teachers.When I see photos of the closed schools such as Redford which as far as I know had a multi million dollar athletic field renovation only to be closed a few years later, and stories of Lonnie Bates and his cheesy junkets,Calloways detail may even look cheap.The way it looks though[mainly in Detroit] that any higher ranking official seems to think they deserve a detail.What is up with that? |
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 546 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:02 am: | |
Sludge, you got it! |
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289
Post Number: 702 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:08 am: | |
Lutheran teachers could give her one of those antique paddles. |
Sumas Member Username: Sumas
Post Number: 359 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 6:56 am: | |
Throw more grapes. |
Marshall Member Username: Marshall
Post Number: 13 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 7:05 am: | |
Heck I don't see the need for Calloway period. No value added here. |
Bobby08 Member Username: Bobby08
Post Number: 102 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:14 pm: | |
"Heck I don't see the need for Calloway period. No value added here". +1. There has been no improvement since she has taken this post. Just a waste of taxpayers money! I'm still bitter that they closed my old high school. |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 520 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:56 pm: | |
Again the reason she's here is to clean up and downsize the district. Plus the board was so concerned as to how the Coleman situation was going to turn out they felt that they had to bring in somebody. She is doing that! If you wanted somebody who has a vision on how the move the district forward and to be competitive in the 21st century then you have the wrong person. |
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986
Post Number: 481 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 5:13 pm: | |
When is her contract up? |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 521 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 - 2:43 am: | |
"When is her contract up?" One year down four to go! She won't be here until the end of her contract. As soon as it makes sense economically to buy her out of her contract she will be gone. I would bet no later than year 3 |
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289
Post Number: 709 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:16 am: | |
How many Supers has DPS had in the last 10 yrs? |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 1405 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 5:15 am: | |
I think it's 5 supers in the last 10 years. Snead Adamany Burnley Coleman Calloway |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 522 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 5:50 am: | |
In the last 10 years it was Green Adamany-interim Burnley - had 5 of the 10 years only reason he was there as long was because he was technically a CEO. Coleman Satchel-interim Calloway |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 523 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 6:03 am: | |
The average job life span of a big city superintendent is between 2 and 3 years. So I am on pretty solid ground guessing that Calloway won't be here beyond year 3 |
Taxpayer7 Member Username: Taxpayer7
Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:13 am: | |
Can someone please clarify Calloway's current contract as it relates to her salary. I've read in different media publications that her salary is &280,000 per year for 5 years, and then I've read that her salary is $280,000 over a five year period (e.g. $280,000/5 years would average out to $56,000 per year.) Vs. ($280,000 per year x 5 years which would be $1.4 million total). |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 524 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 12:56 pm: | |
You had it right the first time it is 280,000 per yr for 5 yrs. It is pretty much the going rate for a big city superintendent. However for her since she came from a much smaller district that represents a huge difference. Probably triple from what she was getting. |
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289
Post Number: 716 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 2:35 am: | |
The $280 per year sounds right, The super where I live makes $252,000 A YR so I hear. With the roll call of the former supers I wouldn,t want that pay raise at all. Thanks DETTEACHER AND 1st&10 |
Taxpayer7 Member Username: Taxpayer7
Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 11:48 am: | |
Thanks for the clarification Firstandten and Reddog. I guess I was hoping it wasn't $285,000 per year; but sounds like it is. I'm just bewildered over how DPS can justify those kind of salaries with the school district in the shape that it is. |
Chrissy_snow Member Username: Chrissy_snow
Post Number: 361 Registered: 07-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 12:34 pm: | |
It's a lot of money, but then, I was shocked to find out that Fanchon Stinger of Fox 2 News made over $300,000 for what she did! So I guess in perspective....but dang! |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 527 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 12:16 am: | |
Taxpayer7 its called market value. DPS is in such bad shape you can't get anybody of value to come unless you pay the going rate for a big city superintendent or in some cases overpay. If we could have gotten a proven administrator instead of a second tier talent like Calloway DPS would have needed to pay even more. |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 1830 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 12:25 am: | |
I don't agree -- compare her salary with what the superintendents of NYC or Philly schools make, and I bet you she's right up there. It's the hiring process...are they really considering everybody across the country, is it open? |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 529 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 3:07 am: | |
Calloway's salary is right on the upper end of the $175K-$305K range for urban supers. I don't think the hiring process was real open for a couple of reasons. One the board did not use a search firm (save money?) Honestly, the search was probably restricted to AA candidates (political reasons?) The Detroit job is a bad job for a lot of reasons but most likely the main one is having to deal with a 11 member board. As a result you limit your options and you are essential overpaying to get a person who wants one big payday before they retire (Galloway). The DPS job would be a career killer for an up and coming administrator. |
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav
Post Number: 1171 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 10:54 am: | |
Here is my proposal for giving something back to Detroit & DPS: Monday - Friday, 7:00 until 11:00 am - Security Officer for Superintendent Monday - Friday, 12:00 until 3:00 pm - US Government & Economics Instructor at MLK Jr. HS Monday - Friday, 3:45 until 5:30 pm - Swimming & Diving Coach at Cooley HS (November through February); Track & Field (throws & fitness) Coach (March through June) I am fully credentialed & exquisitely qualified (thank-you); I will perform all of the above for well-under $50K annually. I ain't needy - I just want to help keep costs down, while driving quality way-the-hell up! Connie......CALL ME! Cooley.....Start Filling up the Pool (Message edited by chuckjav on November 23, 2008) |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 1406 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 4:18 pm: | |
Chuck: There is a funny story (or not so funny) about the pool and the lack of water in it at Cooley. I don't want to mention it in an open forum but if you email me I'll be happy to tell all. Tmcooleyweb at aol dot com. |
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 599 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 10:09 pm: | |
Like Sludge said, arm her like the nuns: rulers, pointers and a good old sock in the face. Sister Leo Therese used to walk up quietly, pull you out of line or class and sock you in the face. Didn't matter if you were 140 lbs. soaking wet, or a 200 lb. lineman. POW, in the kisser! (Message edited by 1KielsonDrive on November 24, 2008) |