Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 1306 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 10:46 am: | |
This afternoon I plan to head down to Hamtramck to do some shopping. One of the things I'm looking for are pierogies (plum specifically) and I need some advice on where the best place is to purchase them. Also depending on what time we get down there we might get a bite to eat so I'm looking for a good Polish restaurant. I plan to take my kids to see the pope statue so that's the area will be at. Some place close to that area would be preferable. Thanks for any help. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 3715 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 10:48 am: | |
Polish Market is right there on Jos. Campau, although it's easier to park and shop at Bozek's on Caniff near Gallagher. |
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 426 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:19 am: | |
Skip Polish Markets Pierogies. I suggest you try Stans on Campau north of Caniff. But definitely check out Polish Market while in town. Dont forget to stop buy Hamtramck Disneyland |
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 1038 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:19 am: | |
They have plum pierogis? I'm trying to picture how those would taste. They sound rather bizarre. |
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 427 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:20 am: | |
pits and all Bear just like grandma used to make |
Alley Member Username: Alley
Post Number: 796 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:23 am: | |
Polish Village Restaurant is on Yemens, about a block away from Pope Park. The food is yummy http://www.polishvillagecafe.n et/ We've shopped at Stan's Grocery on Jos. Campau near and Caniff (11325 Joseph Campau. Good selection of meat, pickles, and other Polish products. (313) 365-1165 Everything mentioned is easily walking distance, hope it helps |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 3717 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:23 am: | |
They have plum at Bozek's. I'm pretty new to fruit pierogies, but I've been trying them recently. Always wondered about those. Fried cherry pierogies remind me of a McD's cherry pie. |
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 1039 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:24 am: | |
I guess I'll have to add that to my list of Things I Need To Try One Of These Days. I'm curious now. |
Wykkidx Member Username: Wykkidx
Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:36 am: | |
Without a doubt Polish Village, that place is great. My only suggestion would be to try and be early to Polish Village like when they first open, other wise depending on the time you might have a wait. Usually when we hit there we are waiting in the parking lot for them to open, by the time we leave there is a line waiting for a table. |
Chow Member Username: Chow
Post Number: 503 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 12:28 pm: | |
Eh, its good american polish food but definitely not polish. if you prefer real polish food the only place to find it is poland or make it yourself. my polish ex was very disappointed in hamtramck. |
Tarkus Member Username: Tarkus
Post Number: 612 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 12:31 pm: | |
Go to Polonia. It's across the parking lot from Polish Village on Yemen. Best duck soup (czarnina) in town |
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 428 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:11 pm: | |
All the Polish restaurants in Hamtramck ar Excellent!!! |
Englishkills Member Username: Englishkills
Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:15 pm: | |
Norwalk: Is the Norwalk bar still operating in Hamtramck? Are you somehow affiliated? Sorry if it's been discussed, I'm new here. That place was one of my favorites from my time in Detroit. |
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 1041 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:15 pm: | |
quote:Eh, its good american polish food but definitely not polish. if you prefer real polish food the only place to find it is poland or make it yourself. my polish ex was very disappointed in hamtramck. Every time there is a thread about ethnic food, regardless of the ethnicity in question, someone who once knew someone of that ethnicity feels the need to chime in with this exact post, modified for whatever ethnicity it is they're talking about. Can we just take it for granted that no American ethnic food ever tastes ANYTHING like the real thing, move on, and let the 99.9% of us who will never go to any of these countries just enjoy our goddamn fake ethnic food? Authentic or not, Polish Village is damn good. PS. The Dakota Inn's food is NOTHING like real German food. Don't ever eat there. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 3726 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:19 pm: | |
I feel a Polish joke coming on. Q: How did they pick the last pope? A: They took a Pole. |
Downtown_lady Member Username: Downtown_lady
Post Number: 426 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:21 pm: | |
quote:just enjoy our goddamn fake ethnic food that is really funny |
Englishkills Member Username: Englishkills
Post Number: 24 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:44 pm: | |
Unless something is completely wrong, I really don't see why the Polish food in Hamtramck would not be comparable to Polish food in Poland. I'm Polish, have been there many times and I generally find Polish food in Polish neighborhoods in the States to be pretty much the same as in Poland. Take Greenpoint, Brooklyn for example. Polish delis and restaurants on every corner in some areas. The cheap Polish food here is the same as a meal consisting of the same ingredients in Poland. The people preparing the food in the neighborhood speak Polish, come from Poland and know how to cook the meals. Also, take it from a Polock, Polish food is some of the cheapest easiest food to make anywhere. As long as Hamtramck shops continue to import all of the basic ingredients just about anyone can cook the stuff up. |
Melody Member Username: Melody
Post Number: 319 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 2:01 pm: | |
"Is the Norwalk bar still operating in Hamtramck?" No, it's been closed for over five years. |
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 429 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 2:30 pm: | |
No English the Norwalk bar is at the end of my street hence the name. I went there 1 time after I bought my house the next time I went it was closed and has been closed every since. I do recall Eddy the bar keep and it seems everything was $1.00. |
Mortalman Member Username: Mortalman
Post Number: 488 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 3:18 pm: | |
quote:Also, take it from a Polock, Polish food is some of the cheapest easiest food to make anywhere. As long as Hamtramck shops continue to import all of the basic ingredients just about anyone can cook the stuff up. Englishkills, you've got to watch using the word "Polock" there's a lurker skirting around the edges of these Forums just waiting for someone to use that word so they can let you know how offended they are that you used that word and that something should be done about people using those kinds of pejorative words on these Forums. How do I know that? I used that word "Polack", ooops there I said it again and I didn't mean to, and felt the slimy twinges of guilt for offending someone's sensibilities. (Message edited by mortalman on November 20, 2008) |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 2028 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 3:32 pm: | |
I've not been to Hamtramack for polish food since I went to Zosha's or the Round Bar with my folks as a kid. I gotta get back and try these places you people are recommending. For good west side polish eats try the Golden Skillet in Redford and the Pierogi stand on Five Mile in Livonia, Lila's I think? |
Mortalman Member Username: Mortalman
Post Number: 489 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 5:50 pm: | |
I've been going to all these Polish restaurants everybody is talking about in Hamtramck on this thread for years. But, I have to say for all around experience I find Witchcraft Krakus Bar & Restaurant at 12900 Joseph Campau St., Detroit, MI, 48212. (313) 368- 8599 to be the best. It's on the Detroit side of Jos. Campau between Meade and Cody Sts. The food is great, generous portions, authentic Polish cuisine, fast service, the best prices and a full stocked bar cheaper than any of the other Polish Palaces. One of the knocks is that the waitress and her name escapes me now is dour. But, I find that people that have that opinion of her don't know her and that once you get to know her she's got a great, dry sense of humor and is an excellent waitress. I've got a menu around here somewhere that I'll try to find and post it if I can. |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 1307 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 6:13 pm: | |
We went to Polish Market and at the suggestion of someone we talked to while standing in line we headed over to Polonia. Unfortunately no plum pierogies at PM but we did pick up quite a few other things including some different kinds of pierogies . We also got a chance to see the 31st district court as we stopped in to pay a 5$ fine for our meter running out. Plum pierogies are the best in my opinion. They were a staple at Sunday dinner at my grandmothers house when I was growing up. They're almost too good, I could go through them like they're going out of style. |
Cycledetroit Member Username: Cycledetroit
Post Number: 58 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 6:19 pm: | |
"Is the Norwalk bar still operating in Hamtramck?" In highschool we spend many weekends with Eddie. HE never checked ID, and always had good stories. The bar is still up for sale. |
Alley Member Username: Alley
Post Number: 797 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 6:36 pm: | |
I loved that place! |
Deteamster Member Username: Deteamster
Post Number: 178 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 6:38 pm: | |
"Englishkills, you've got to watch using the word "Polock" there's a lurker skirting around the edges of these Forums just waiting for someone to use that word so they can let you know how offended they are that you used that word and that something should be done about people using those kinds of pejorative words on these Forums. How do I know that? I used that word "Polack", ooops there I said it again and I didn't mean to, and felt the slimy twinges of guilt for offending someone's sensibilities." Since you are clearly ignorant, Polak means Polish man in Polish. Thus in speaking Polish it is totally neutral. Polack is an Anglicized spelling of it. And in such context it was usually used to put down Polish people. Which doesn't seem to bother you. And you know what? You're a dupa. |
Alley Member Username: Alley
Post Number: 798 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 6:57 pm: | |
"And you know what? You're a dupa." lOL
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Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 7528 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 7:12 pm: | |
German's make their own version of plum pierogies. My mother used to make what Germans call "Qweckschte Knödel" (sp?)... ie Plum Dumplings. She hasn't made it in 10 years because it brings on guaranteed heartburn. I was just at the Polish Market today (I stop by there every week now)... they have crusty rolls that are 100% like the German "Brötchen", fresh breakfast rolls served throughout Germany. These even have the same split top. I've spent years looking for a Brötchen knockoff, and finally found them! |
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth
Post Number: 362 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 7:14 pm: | |
Now THAT's funny. Michigan Lottery should pick this game up. |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 1084 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 1:25 am: | |
Under the eagle has a great combination plate for cheap! |
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 430 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 8:30 am: | |
Gistok are those the rolls that are 3 for a $1.00? Those are awesome I stop on my way home at least 3 times a week for those. They are usually warm and make my car smell so good |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 3737 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 9:12 am: | |
According to the scuttlebutt I've heard, Norwalk being for sale is the biggest joke ever. Why? I heard they sold their liquor license already, and they STILL want big bucks for the bar. If that's true, why ask so much for the place? Who's going to buy a bar in Hamtramck without a liquor license, when the locals already think having more than 70 sale licenses in 2 square miles is too much. |
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth
Post Number: 365 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 10:11 am: | |
It's probably in the running for the next Mosque or Yemeni social club. Right size and location. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 3739 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 10:25 am: | |
Speaking of which, anybody see all the work they're doing on Holbroook Cafe? What's up with that? |
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 433 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 11:02 am: | |
grocery store and copy center |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 3743 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 11:16 am: | |
Another grocery store? I'm in heaven. |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 1308 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 5:29 pm: | |
According to Wikipedia the Polish population in Hamtramck is at 22.9%. I would have guessed that it would have been a little higher than that. Out of curiosity does anyone know what the Polish population in Hamtramck was say 20 years ago? Also Hamtramck increased in population by 25% from 1990 to 2000. Was there a certain group of people that accounted for this increase and did the city have some sort of plan to increase the population? |
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth
Post Number: 366 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 6:41 pm: | |
You might be interested in this thesis paper by Johnathan Zajac concerning the city of Hamtramck. The increase was due to 6000 "non whites" from the 1990 to 2000 census. Of these, 895 were Black. http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/ bitstream/2027.42/58629/4/zaja c-importance_polish.pdf |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 1309 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 7:00 pm: | |
^ Thanks. It looks like a good and interesting read. |
Putnam Member Username: Putnam
Post Number: 137 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:01 pm: | |
I like Polonia http://www.cloverleafwine.com/ forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=266 2&p=21610#p21610 |
Mashugruskie Member Username: Mashugruskie
Post Number: 274 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:07 pm: | |
We have Lila's Pierogi's here in Livonia on Five Mile and Inkster Road. Lila was born in Warsaw and makes an assortment of pierogi's - even scrambled egg and bacon, roast beef and cheddar and plum pierogi's (but those come out in mid-Spring only). |
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav
Post Number: 1184 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:18 pm: | |
Mad-Respect & Major-Kudos for the People of Poland. Last night, I watched a special on PBS - much detail on the many crimes of Hitler & his henchmen upon Poland, specifically Warsaw. God Bless Poland! (Message edited by chuckjav on November 25, 2008) |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 7561 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 2:15 am: | |
Are you talking about the 2 or 3 hour PBS special on WWII and plundered artwork and destroyed cultural heritage? The Americans did a number on Italy in that series. Unlike the Poland tragedy, the American destruction was unfortunate, but probably necessary. |
Zrx_doug Member Username: Zrx_doug
Post Number: 796 Registered: 03-2008
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:46 am: | |
Another vote for Under the Eagle. If you want interesting decor and acceptable chow, go to Polish Village..but if you want REALLY good food and "atmosphere" is secondary, go to Under the Eagle. |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 1322 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 5:28 pm: | |
^I took some out of town relatives to UTE this past weekend. The food was very good. Just a quick question about Hamtramck. In reference to the SW corner of Holbrook and JC what was there prior to that strip mall? If I recall correctly wasn't that the spot that the Pope said mass? Was that area part of Dodge Main? |
Edziu Member Username: Edziu
Post Number: 58 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 6:25 pm: | |
It was a commercial strip just like the one north of holbrook. I can recall the original Port bar, a shoe shine parlor and a Florsheims. The mistake the city made and now regrets is that they allowed the strip mall to be recessed as opposed to having the building closer to JC and the sidewalk. There used to be parking behind the original buildings. It just doesn't flow like the section north of Holbrook. That intersection was and still is considered the heart of the city. Tak jest! |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 2320 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 8:34 pm: | |
Last time I was in Hamtramck for Polish food was at Kitty's Kitchen in Swinging City. |
Tacoaficionado Member Username: Tacoaficionado
Post Number: 19 Registered: 03-2008
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 1:16 pm: | |
The best Polish restaurant in town is located in Southwest Detroit, on the corner of Central and Michigan Ave - Starlight Diner. Tomato gravy so good it makes grandma look like an amateur! |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 4932 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 2:53 pm: | |
Taco, it IS good there. They have great pierogi, too. |