Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 5759 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:31 am: | |
This chart lists import car sales for both Chrysler and GM. I know GM could be bringing over a handful of European cars each month but what would Chrysler's be? I'm guessing products from Canada and Mexico are included as domestics since Ford shows no imports. http://online.wsj.com/mdc/publ ic/page/2_3022-autosales.html# autosalesE |
Mopardan Member Username: Mopardan
Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:49 am: | |
A shot in the dark...I remember Daimler-Chrysler would be bringing the "Smart Car" over. I've seen quite a few more on the roads down here since gassing up required taking out a second mortgage.
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Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 3125 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:59 am: | |
Chrysler has reached agreements with Nissan to produce small B and C segment vehicles. They will be Nissan's rebranded as Dodge. They were working with Chery to produce a small car. Chrysler is also designing and building the next Nissan Titan Pickup truck. It will be based on the new dodge truck. Chrysler designed and is building Volkswagen's new minivan. |
Otter Member Username: Otter
Post Number: 419 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 1:30 pm: | |
I'm not sure exactly what is meant by 'import' in the WSJ table, but I cannot think of what could fall under that category by Chrysler. There are probably still some unsold Crossfires sitting somewhere, but those are all at least a couple of model years old. Everything else sold in the US is built in the NAFTA zone. The Nissan rebadge is to be sold in Mexico and Latin America only. Sprinters are built in germany, I believe. |
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe
Post Number: 2759 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 2:16 pm: | |
In the 70s, Chrysler sold rebranded Mitsubishi cars. I had one, a Dodge Colt, and it was a great little car. When I went over to Solidarity House one time, though, I got all kinds of flak for driving a Japanese car. I defended that my dollars went to support Chrysler, and it was Chrysler's issue. At least the car was still in one piece when I left. |
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm
Post Number: 1181 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 2:37 pm: | |
Could it have something to do with GEM (Global Electric Motorcars)? I know they're headquartered in Fargo, N.D. but maybe they're manufactured overseas. http://www.gemcar.com/company/ |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 2034 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 2:47 pm: | |
The GEM website says the vehicles are made in Fargo, with mostly domestic parts. |
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 633 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 11:15 am: | |
"In the 70s, Chrysler sold rebranded Mitsubishi cars. I had one, a Dodge Colt, and it was a great little car. When I went over to Solidarity House one time, though, I got all kinds of flak for driving a Japanese car. I defended that my dollars went to support Chrysler, and it was Chrysler's issue. At least the car was still in one piece when I left." Thats a very rare car now! Do you have any pictures of it? They also sold a compact "Challenger" (and Plymouth Sapporo) in the late 70s. If you can find one now, buy it! Youll be the only one around with one. The Arrow name was used on both a liftback-like car and a compact pickup. My favorite, though, was the Isuzu-built Buick/Opel sold by GM. I estimate fewer than 500 still exist in North America. Thats the ultimate obscure vehicle. |
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 634 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 11:30 am: | |
One of the last existing Isuzu Opels http://www.flickr.com/photos/s trawberrycouple/sets/721576039 24878711 '78 Dodge Challenger http://www.msapporo.com/Dodge/ DChallen.htm Plymouth Arrow coupe http://jalopnik.com/344557/198 0-plymouth-fire-arrow-with-bon us-malaise-louver-poll '79 Colt http://www.cardomain.com/ride/ 2335536 |
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23
Post Number: 3020 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 1:19 pm: | |
Hp - Can you post a pic of that Isuzu Opel on Flickr ? I get a message that it's a private page. |
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 635 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 8:01 pm: | |
Actually, I found a better one on Cardomain- better condition than the car on Flicker and easier to see. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/ 2688704 The only reason I know what these cars are is because in the early 80s, as a little kid, a guy living nearby had TWO of them. His house burned,he moved his cars and after he never rebuilt. Ive never seen another one since. |
Otter Member Username: Otter
Post Number: 421 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 12:00 pm: | |
HP, That Isuzu looks (size, apertures, glass, door skins) like it's on the platform that was shared between the US Chevette, European OPel/Vauxhall Kadett (I think), and the Isuzu I-mark a bit later in the US. Correct, or no? O. |
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 638 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 4:21 pm: | |
According to Wikipedia, youre correct on both counts- The Chevette and I-mark. |
Newport1128 Member Username: Newport1128
Post Number: 248 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 4:37 pm: | |
Hpgrmin, I owned the ultimate "obscure vehicle" imported by Chrysler: The Plymouth Cricket. I had a 1971 model, and my gf at the time had a '72. Those were the only two years they were imported. They were actually Hillman Avengers,made in England. They were pretty good little cars mechanically, but not meant for North American winters! I used to get about 36 mpg on the highway with the 4-speed stick. I bought the Cricket rather than a VW Beetle because the Cricket had 4 doors instead of 2, and had a decent heater. Little did I know that Chrysler would abandon them after only two years. I kept mine until 1976. I saw a picture of one in a junkyard several years ago, but not a "live" once since the early 1980's. You can get get more info and photos by Googling Plymouth Cricket. |
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl
Post Number: 1478 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 7:17 pm: | |
i hate to say it, but chrysler is all but done. they have been walking people out en masse over the past few days, very quietly, and i doubt the business has a future. thousands of people have been eliminated. for anybody who knows the place, seeing e4003 desolate - empty, and lights out - is pretty foreboding. i wouldn't be surprised if all the engineering, design, manufacturing, accounting, and financial information owned by chrysler wasn't sucked out of auburn hills, and transported to computers owned by tcs in india. i wouldn't be surprised to see the complex in auburn hills largely vacant before long. |
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl
Post Number: 1479 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 8:10 pm: | |
mash, i'm truly sorry to hear of your distress. my grandfather started a charter chrysler dealership; it actually began with his selling the willys-overland. i always admired his fierce loyalty to the company. when i was hired by chrysler, i felt proud and loyal too. i had one of my grandpa's old copper-plated master mechanic statues on my desk when i started there in 2000. needless to say, after seeing the way management behaved, i'm not so excited about the company any more. but hey, i'm at ford now, and i'm proud to be there. the management team is very forthright and inspiring. chrysler was secretive and misleading, with a smile. it's too bad. mash, again, i'm sorry to hear that this is so upsetting to you. this whole thing makes me think that ultimately we may learn to appreciate friends and family in a way we forgot when long-distance phone calls and airline tickets began to keep us "connected." God bless! |
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 639 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 8:30 pm: | |
Newport1128- My dad had a cricket before I was born. Sadly, he had no pictures of it.Rumor has it two or three are still out there somewhere. after that he had a Duster. I wish he kept that one. i would have loved to have that in my high school days, all restored. |
Mashugruskie Member Username: Mashugruskie
Post Number: 279 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 9:02 pm: | |
Carl, I used to work at Ford's Design Center in Corrosion Protection. They were all like family and most of the engineers started on the line at Rouge. I loved them all and miss them. I should have never left. My husband is at Chrysler and he can tell you the part number for a screw on a 1932 Plymouth. He loved that company. His family has worked at Nash, Ford, AMC and DCX (nasty, arrogant, thieving Germans...and I can say that! I am German!) and now for those three shithead dogs that guard the gates of hell! I'm not just afraid for my own family, though that is weighing heavily on me, I am afraid for everyone who works/worked there. They were/are loyal. Cerberus, otoh.... |
Yaktown Member Username: Yaktown
Post Number: 399 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:04 pm: | |
Sprinter vans are actually built in South Carolina. http://www.allpar.com/model/up coming.html |
Otter Member Username: Otter
Post Number: 428 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 1:24 am: | |
Yak, Thanks for the correction. My (bad) memory told me that the SC Freightliner plant had gotten cancelled before anything was built there. |