Bobzilla Member Username: Bobzilla
Post Number: 114 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:01 am: | |
The venerable group "Yes" (started in 1968) played a great concert at the Fillmore on Wednesday. They played Roundabout, Long Distance Runaround, I've Seen All Good People, Owner of a Lonely Heart, and more. Steve Howe is an awesome guitarist. Even without Jon Anderson, they were really great. |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 1316 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:28 am: | |
Who did vocals? |
Bobzilla Member Username: Bobzilla
Post Number: 115 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:48 am: | |
Jon Anderson had some kind of health problems that kept him from this tour. The lead singer was named Benoit David. He was with a Yes tribute band from Montreal -- so he knew all the words. His voice sounded very much like Jon Anderson's. |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 1319 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:56 am: | |
I have seen them a number of times with all differant lineups, but never without Anderson. Squier most be looking old these days, he looked ancient 10 years ago. Helluva Base player though. I agree about Steve Howe, I always liked his playing. |
Ravine Member Username: Ravine
Post Number: 2929 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 2:10 pm: | |
C'mon. "Base?" |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 1322 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 2:47 pm: | |
Sorry Ravine, I meant bass. Does that make you feel better. Still is he one of the best in rock at BASS |
Ravine Member Username: Ravine
Post Number: 2934 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 5:33 pm: | |
Kenp: Yeah, actually, it does. Thanks! I agree with your assessment. Howe is a helluva guitarist, but the Squire-Bruford rhythm match was the you-know-what. You mis-spelled his name, too, but this isn't BashKenpday. |
Tarkus Member Username: Tarkus
Post Number: 613 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 5:55 pm: | |
I thought Alan White was the drummer. |
Ravine Member Username: Ravine
Post Number: 2937 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 5:57 pm: | |
He was; both have been. |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 1325 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 6:11 pm: | |
Many different Yes lineups over the years, there was the also the Trevor Rabin years. Also I was a big fan of Rick Wakeman. All members did quality work. -Ravine I think I spelled all names correct this time. |
Ravine Member Username: Ravine
Post Number: 2939 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 7:45 pm: | |
I liked Yes quite a bit. I don't think I've seen any other band four times. The first time, right after "Fragile" was released, they were really good. The second time, good, but not AS good. Third time, ehhh... The funny thing is that, the fourth time, they were TERRIFIC. "Close To The Edge" was out, and I didn't really care for it, but they played "Siberian Khatru," and boy oh boy, what a performance. I can't resist pointing out that I always thought their lyrics were unforgivably stupid, a pile of poetic-sounding phrases which added up to nothing more than bullshit gibberish. A lot like some of my posts. |
Warrenite84 Member Username: Warrenite84
Post Number: 440 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 8:33 pm: | |
Back in the early 90's, Asia was supposed to play at The Ritz on Gratiot in Roseville with the original members. Naturally, they over sold the place and the crowd got pretty rowdy when only the original keyboardist showed up. After the second song, bandmate Steve Howe stepped in and played phenomenally. He played one of his songs on his acoustic guitar in a classical style, then in mid song continued in a Spanish sounding style. One of the best guitarists I've ever heard. (Message edited by warrenite84 on November 28, 2008) |
Ggores Member Username: Ggores
Post Number: 493 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 5:26 pm: | |
Saw them at Olympia in'79 or late '78, the "Tormato" tour. Lots of bongs, haha. Yes is one of those bands that come and go so far as people's taste. My kid is really into them, as are many of the younger ones. Had better planning prevailed, I'd love to have seen this show. Yeah, I think Jon Anderson has some larengitis or other vocal-related problems that caused him to bow out gracefully from this tour |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 9408 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 6:03 pm: | |
We still like your posts Ravine. Don't you start apologizing for them before you post them now. |
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv
Post Number: 490 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 6:27 pm: | |
Yes was overrated and an example of the soulless sterile nature of arena rock, a teenage wasteland. Their music was a pretentious attempt to meld rock music into epic length musical concepts. I have to thank them tho' for making punk rock a viable alternative and increasing interest in roots rock and rockabilly. Thanks Yes. |
Chad Member Username: Chad
Post Number: 19 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 8:10 pm: | |
There was the Drama album/tour where Jon Anderson was replaced with Trevor Horn and Rick Wakeman replaced with Geoffrey Downes. Squire is the only member of the band to have appeared on every album. This tour was originally planned with Jon to provide vocals but was cancelled due to Jons' being diagnosed with acute respitory failure. This was to be the bands 40th anniversary tour as well. |
Aiw Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 6820 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 8:23 pm: | |
Kenp agreed. Wakeman was the man. |
Soulhawk Member Username: Soulhawk
Post Number: 381 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 3:25 am: | |
Yes is by far the worst band of all time. |
Tarkus Member Username: Tarkus
Post Number: 615 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 8:52 am: | |
Gee Soulhawk, the worst band in your opinion must be doing something right to last 40 years, what band of your liking has lasted and toured for 40 years???. Hey Dannyv how many of your punk bands are still viable??? |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 2310 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 10:27 am: | |
Quantity does not equal quality. - CCBatson, 2008 |
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv
Post Number: 491 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 1:09 pm: | |
The punk bands were relevant for their period. They played smaller venues and their interaction with their audience was spontaneous and true. They didn't require choreography, elaborate stage production nor giant fish decorating the stage. There's still punk being played in every 'burb and 'burg. I don't think you can honestly say that about Yes. |
Jleurck Member Username: Jleurck
Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 2:57 pm: | |
Danny, I don't think you hear Yes played in every "'burb and 'burg" because of the instrumental ability required to pull off the music in their repertoire. I think there ARE still people out there willing to listen just based on the fact that they can afford to tour after 40 years, when many even more recent bands have shut it down or are relegated to playing tribal casinos. It is in many ways prog is "music for musicians" rather than "music to go through adolescence by". You're comparing apples and diesel engines here. One is generally cerebral, punk is generally emotive (note I'm saying "GENERALLY" – some of the late 70s punk guys like Joe Jackson and the dudes in Ian Drury and the Blockheads could certainly play their asses off). I think the same problem would exist in trying to compare folk songs to modal jazz, or classical symphonic music to bluegrass tunes. Yes, it’s ALL music, but in each case they’re coming from different traditions requiring different disciplines. I don’t think Steve Howe or Chris Squire have any desire to play punk music. I doubt that they’d find it musically fulfilling. By the same token, I could not even begin to imagine Iggy Pop singing “Going For The One”. He’d probably say “what the F**K is this noise?!” |
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv
Post Number: 492 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 3:24 pm: | |
I believe you helped make my point that the sophistication and virtuosity of the music played by prog-rock bands like Yes led to their irrelevance. I can hear it but I sure don't feel it. And the stage production is there to placate my boredom until the music reaches it's conceptual crescendo. I'm just saying that arena rock, which would include some prog-rock bands like Yes and Pink Floyd, is mere choreography. Same show, different town. |
Sludgedaddy Member Username: Sludgedaddy
Post Number: 235 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 7:16 pm: | |
Dannyv, I so whole heartedly agree with you. To those who swear by the relevance of Yes, you can still hear them played over and over again on the "Dead Hippie" radio station of your choice. I think Yes needs a similar concert date to rival the last performance of Great White. |
Jleurck Member Username: Jleurck
Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 7:25 pm: | |
Actually, all I said was that on most levels you can't compare the two (Punk and Prog). Draw your own conclusions if you must, but I really don't think they (Yes) are irrelevant if they're still touring and someone is still showing up at the shows. I don't really have a dog in this fight (I listen to mostly jazz these days), but I will say that punk largely has less to do with the music than the message. Nothing wrong with that at all, but the "minimalist / lowest common denominator" musical aspect of punk wears out for a lot of folks who are as interested in the MUSIC as they are the MESSAGE. Different strokes, it's all good, man! ;^) |
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv
Post Number: 493 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 8:37 pm: | |
I suppose the reason this thread was even started was the coincidence of YES in the site title. Jl, you make many valid points about the nature of each music and, like you say, it comes down to personal taste. That being said, perhaps it's Jon Anderson's high octave vocal range, but I found the music of Yes particularly fey. I have a similar issue with metal bands whose macho pose is countered by the high octave screams of the singer. Now that I've violated the 11th commandment of Never Dump On Another Person's Music, I vow never to sin again. |
Jleurck Member Username: Jleurck
Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 9:15 pm: | |
It's all cool, Danny. For British prog bands of this era, I'd rather listen to Jethro Tull any day of the week. Jon Anderson's voice for you must be kind of like Geddy Lee's (Rush) is with me, so I hear where you're coming from there! |
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv
Post Number: 494 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 9:40 pm: | |
castrato |kasˈträˌtō| noun ( pl. -ti |-tē|) historical a male singer castrated in boyhood so as to retain a soprano or alto voice. The practice of castration was banned in 1903. Are they still among us? |
Sludgedaddy Member Username: Sludgedaddy
Post Number: 237 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 10:00 pm: | |
Mr.V....Lou Christie is still kickin' and touring the Oldies circuit in out of the way casinos. As a lad, I always wondered way the toughest and most macho of the Greasers always would belt out a tune ala falsetto. But given his Italian heritage, I think Frankie Valli was a true castrato of the old school variety. |
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv
Post Number: 495 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 12:05 am: | |
I guess there's a timeless quality to their work and a demand for them that eclipses any law or taboo restricting it. The first 45rpm record that I bought was Sherry Baby by the Four Seasons so even at that young and impressionable age I fell under their spell. Two faces have I unless lightning strikes me again and again and again. |