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Deteamster
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.forbes.com/2008/12/ 08/towns-ten-economy-forbeslif e-cx_mw_1209dying_slide_5.html ?thisSpeed=30000

They couldn't use Detroit in this one, since they're talking about "towns", so they used Hamtramck, despite the fact that Hamtramck is, in fact, a city.
1- Hamtramck isn't "outside" Detroit.
2- Where did they get their unemployment rate? 7.0% of Hamtramckans in the labor force are estimated to be unemployed.
3- They make no mention of immigration, and their little turd of a snippet leads one to believe they'd never heard of Hamtramck before this article. It would be much more compelling to look at Hamtramck's immigration rates in the past 10 years or so, but Forbes is anything but compelling.

What the fuck is "dying" in this context supposed to mean, anyway?
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Izzyindetroit
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems to me they mistook it for Highland Park.
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Thecarl
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

agreed, the description better fits highland park; ergo, no need to define the term "dying."
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Bragaboutme
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the theme of these list should be the effect the free trade agreement has had on small town America. Instead of "dying", they should say "Outsourcing".
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Fishtoes2000
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forbes made a mistake.

36.1% is the percentage of Hamtramck individuals living below the poverty line. According to the Census Bureau's American Community Survey from 2007 to 2007, Hamtramck's unemployment rate was 14.5% +/- 4%.

This census survey data is not available for Highland Park.

http://factfinder.census.gov/h ome/saff/main.html?_lang=en&_t s=
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 12:12 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you believe SEMCOG's estimates for profile (and, they refuse to add the people back to the city that the city found for the Census), Hamtramck is one of the only in inner-ring burbs/enclaves to be growing substantially in population (though, the Census estimates the complete opposite). I think they have Hamtramck at a double-digit growth rate in terms of population. Weather the poverty is increasing or not, you can't call a growing city a dying one.

These papers and magazines use these lists to sell papers, get ads. How they pick Hamtramck and leave out Highland Park just shows how much "research" goes into this shit.
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Ocean2026
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 2:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To make the story readable to a wide variety of national readers they couldn't add Highland Park or the other Detroit suburbs into their 10 worst street.
Sorry one town per metro- lets' not get greedy.
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Gumby
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well at least the Flint area has its own representative in Burton. Can't leave us off these lists either

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