  Studious1 Member Username: Studious1 Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2008 |
Could Detroit legally license small casinos. I have often wondered if Detroit had: limited casinos to 10,000 sq ft allowed drinks but not dining licensed lots of them - hundreds maybe Would vibrant restaurants,bars, entertainment venues have sprung up around the casinos, instead of oppresive dead zones like tht around Motor City? | ||
Zimm Member Username: Zimm Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2006 |
i don't think such an enterprise could line the pockets of local officials sufficiently to make it happen. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 5677 Registered: 12-2005 |
Studious1, did you come up with this idea yourself or did you read about it somewhere? I'd like to learn more. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 5678 Registered: 12-2005 |
Google doesn't find too many references to "Microsinos." Interesting. | ||
Studious1 Member Username: Studious1 Post Number: 10 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Jimaz, I thought of it myself but I doubt I'm the first one to think of it. Microsinos might be original. I've only been to the casinos a few times. They are god awful places. It seems to me that smaller casinos with interesting nieghborhoods around them could actually tempt out of towners to Detroit. Why should they come now when they can go to Vegas or Atlantic City | ||
Johnnny5 Member Username: Johnnny5 Post Number: 766 Registered: 06-2005 |
Security would be a nightmare! | ||
Studious1 Member Username: Studious1 Post Number: 12 Registered: 06-2008 |
Security would be a major source of employment | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 5679 Registered: 12-2005 |
Well it is an interesting idea. It raises the question of why the Detroit casinos were limited to three. I don't believe I've ever heard a rationale for that limit. There is an economy of scale involved though. I've read that Vegas casinos are required by law to maintain enough cash to pay off their greatest winner. In Keno that would be an enormous sum even though the probability of actually having to pay it would be miniscule. Holding that much cash, uninvested, could get pretty expensive. Big casinos can afford it though. The size of the house's bankroll is a major factor in its survivability as a business. Microsinos, I think, would be at a disadvantage. That's a shame. I really like the idea otherwise. | ||
Studious1 Member Username: Studious1 Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2008 |
thats an interesting point. I still think its solvable. There could be a common pool that the microsinos join, or it could be handled by an insurance policy. The casinos don't pay winners - they pay premiums to insurnce companies that pay winners. Im not sure if this is feasible, just a thought. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 5680 Registered: 12-2005 |
Yep, I'm thinking the same thing here. | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 330 Registered: 11-2005 |
Sounds a bit like VLTs to me...these are common in Canada--generally present in existing bars/restaurants--you won't find any in Windsor as they are illegal in Ontario. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V ideo_Lottery_Terminal | ||
Thoswolfe Member Username: Thoswolfe Post Number: 65 Registered: 11-2007 |
South Dakota and Montana have 'micro casinos', they do not seem to be extremely prosperous. But it does bring in more business to those bars that obtained casino licenses. | ||
Studious1 Member Username: Studious1 Post Number: 16 Registered: 06-2008 |
South Dakota and Montana are rural. My interest in the concept is about what it could do for the city. Think about Greektown if it had many small casinos as well as restaurants. Families come. Kids can't go into Casinos. Someone starts a combo theme park/Day care center. Someone else opens a movie house. The city promotes it. there are festivals. More interesting non corporate restaurants. Local sports retirees become greeters. shops spring up because there is business. Some one opens a church so the gamblers can pray for their dice. It becomes Downtown Royal Oak x 10. People renovate buildings for lofts. Now you need a school. etc etc. Other people setup innovative casinos with different games. some attract a following and prosper. they bring people to Detroit because they are unique. Others fail. Since its an exciting area, trade organizations begin to show interest for conventions. I don't think many people are tormenting themselves about whether to go to Atlantic City or South Dakota to gamble. but many we could provide a more exciting alternative to A.C. and reap the benefits | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6657 Registered: 10-2003 |
Saw some in Alberta when I was out west last year. They are usually, dark, damp and dingy. They also seem to be populated with the skeeze of society. I wouldn't want to live anywhere near or frequent one for anything. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 5683 Registered: 12-2005 |
quote:HAHAHA! I can actually imagine that happening. You could have a microchapel in the microsino just for that. | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 3333 Registered: 01-2005 |
Every bar in Las Vegas has up to 18 bar-top video poker/keno/slot machines. They do a good business to the locals crowd. It is a special restricted gaming license. Anything over 18 slots requires a full gaming license. And they're open 24/7. | ||
Mp2dtw Member Username: Mp2dtw Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2008 |
It's an interesting idea. Though I don't buy into the idea that casinos (mega or micro) are or will be beneficial. If the three casinos had been strategically placed throughout downtown as promised by advocates of the referendum, we might be in slightly better shape today--and I might not regret having voted for it. As things are, thankfully we are limited to three. With three, one is in trouble. If we'd had five, all five might have gone bust by now. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 6070 Registered: 10-2003 |
Wait, could or should? I don't currently think it's legal. | ||
Markemarx Member Username: Markemarx Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2006 |
Similar to Bingo halls, there are a lot of Michigan licensed charity poker rooms popping up. Most of them staying open until 2am. One hot spot is the Sunnybrook Bowling Alley. They are giving money to charities by charging fee for tournaments or raking a few dollars per pot in a cash game, but obviously the state is getting their share by selling licenses and the hosts aren't working for free. So, I think it's fair to say the "Microsinos" idea is beginning to develop. Link to Michigan Charity Gambling Site: http://www.michigan.gov/cg | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 7072 Registered: 08-2004 |
quote: Welcome to the forum Studious1! I have to respectfully disagree with the comments you made above... 1) Most out of towners are often paranoid about Detroit. How would small neighborhood type casinos make them more comfortable than big glitzy protected fortress casinos with attached parking. 2) How would small bar/bingo hall type casinos in neighborhoods be more competitive against Las Vegas or Atlantic City, versus the flashy large casinos, of which only MGM Grand and Casino Windsor are totally finished (for comparison's sake)? I've been at MGM recenty, and it is anything BUT godawful... it's downright elegant and classy. Another reason for folks to visit Detroit's glitzy large casinos versus Las Vegas & Atlantic City... with Oil hitting $140 a barrel, the much higher cost of transportation. |
