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Detroitrise
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have the current population count for the city?

If so, do you mind posting them here or providing me the link to them?

Also, does anyone have the current race percentages?

I'm not sure, but I remember seeing/hearing something about the African American percentage dropping by 1 or 2%.

BTW Danny, I'm not looking for your "calculations".

Please and thank you to those who helped.

(Message edited by DetroitRise on June 24, 2008)
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Dds
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

BTW Danny, I'm not looking for your "calculations".



And I'm sure Danny never wants to hear you blather on about the weather, so you're even.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ME-OW.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't feed the trolls JL. :-)
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Spacemonkey
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Does anyone have the current population count for the city?"

Yes. The Census Bureau has it.
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Dds
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Don't feed the trolls JL.



Whatever. Folks with class on this site let Danny be Danny, as JL and others can attest. Even the trolls, a moniker you throw around pretty liberally.
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Ndavies
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's wrong with Danny's calculations. He gets them directly from SEMCOG or the US census bureau. Both of which are just fuzzy estimates at this point. We won't have anything that resembles a real hard count until they redo the census in 2010. Even that has a lot of fuzziness built in.
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Danny
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 12:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitrise,

You can find the population numbers for Detroit yourself on U.S Census.gov or Semcog. Since you don't need the calculations from me.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 1:08 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Uh, oh. Looks like someone got his widdle fiwings hurt. lol
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Studious1
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is from Wikipedia

As of 2000 Census, there were 951,270 people, residing in the city. In 2006, Detroit's population was estimated to be 918,849, a decline of 3.4% since 2000, showing a much smaller exodus from the city than in past decades.

A new report projects that Detroit's population will fall to about 705,000 by 2035.

the Associated Press says:The city's population is now pegged at nearly 919,000.

1980: 1,203,339
1990: 1,027,974
2000: 951,270



Percent change, 1990–2000: -7.4%

U.S. rank in 1980: 6th
U.S. rank in 1990: 7th
U.S. rank in 2000: 14th
Density: 6,858 people per square mile (2000)
Racial and ethnic characteristics (2000)

White: 116,599
Black or African American: 775,772
American Indian and Alaskan Native: 3,140
Asian: 9,268
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 251
Hispanic or Latino (may be of any race): 47,167
Other: 24,199

Percent of residents born in state: 70.6% (2000)

Age characteristics (2000)
Population under 5 years old: 76,232
Population 5 to 9 years old: 93,882
Population 10 to 14 years old: 83,361
Population 15 to 19 years old: 68,707
Population 20 to 24 years old: 65,654
Population 25 to 34 years old: 144,323
Population 35 to 44 years old: 136,695
Population 45 to 54 years old: 115,971
Population 55 to 59 years old: 38,045
Population 60 to 64 years old: 29,344
Population 65 to 74 years old: 52,863
Population 75 to 84 years old: 35,213
Population 85 years and over: 10,980

Median age: 30.9 years

I hope these aren't considered calculations. I promise they are free of addition, subtraction, division or multiplication on my part. I have not taken the arc-cosine of something.

Please do not hurt my feelings. I am very sensitive.

(Message edited by studious1 on June 27, 2008)

(Message edited by studious1 on June 27, 2008)
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Mwilbert
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"showing a much smaller exodus from the city than in past decades. "

It may show that. It may also show that there was some undercounting in 2000, so that the subsequent decline was understated. The situation should be much clearer after the 2010 census.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit was not the 14th largest city in 2000. It only fell out of the top 10 (by estimations) last year.

As for the 2000s being a smaller decline than the 1990s... I'm a bit skeptical.
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Mayor_sekou
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well since May I know of three other people who have moved down here from State so I guess that helps, right? lol
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Mackcreative
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mayor_sekou, Unfortunately that will be offset by the mackcreative family of four moving out of state in July.
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Edsel
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit 2006 population estimate : 834,000
U.S. Census Bureau
Data set: 2006 American Community Survey

This, other summary stats at

http://factfinder.census.gov/s ervlet/NPTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=1 6000US2622000&-qr_name=ACS_200 6_EST_G00_NP01&-ds_name=&-redo Log=false
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 12:13 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Edsel,

The American Community Survey was primarily created to track economic and demographic changes. The Census still uses official Census Bureau Estimates to track approximate population change. The official estimate number for the most recent year (2006) is 918,849 after the official challenge to the Census. SEMCOG has yet to factor in the challenge to their numbers, which is odd, because they told me in an email that they use the estimates as the base for their own estimates. In fact, they factored in the most recent estimate for Wayne County (2007), but not the challenge for Detroit proper.
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Edsel
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 6:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tanks, Lmich.

SEMCOG posts a June 1 Det pop figure of 861,822

Your understanding is SEMCOG will revise this UP ?

SEMCOG: Population Change by Community, 2000-2008. p. 7 (pdf p. 8).
http://semcog.org/uploadedFiles/po0608.pdf


(Message edited by edsel on June 28, 2008)
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Roadmaster49
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 9:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

African Americans make up 775,000 of roughly 950,000 citizens. Wow, that can't be right. that really leaves me puzzling.
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Hudkina
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have heard of White Flight, correct? The majority of Detroit's neighborhoods are well over 90% black. The only significant area of the city that maintains a largely white(and hispanic) population is Southwest Detroit. And that only accounts for under 100,000 people.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In year 2000, Detroit was 10th largest city in USA. In jjaba's 1950s, Detroit was 4th. Only New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia were larger.

jjaba.
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Retroit
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 5:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting! The newbies answer a simple question that left the old-timers befuddled and bickering. Good job Studious1 and Edsel. We need more like you!

Roadmaster49, come visit the city sometime. You'll really leave puzzled!
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Lefty2
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 6:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit (-3) G.P.W. (+4)
City activist calls it quits on Detroit.
http://www.detroitnews.com/app s/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200806 28/OPINION03/806280398/1038/LI FESTYLE01
"Hurst worked tirelessly for nine long years in her crusade against blight. Somewhere between being told to "call the mayor" or being repeatedly disconnected by the 224-DOPE phone line, she decided not to take it anymore."
Hurst predicts, "If Detroit's leaders continue to demonstrate such shameful neglect and disregard for the basic quality of services for its citizens and taxpayers, pretty soon the only people left in Detroit will be those too poor to leave and the criminals who prey on them."
-She is not too far off there.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 6:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lefty2, that refers back to this thread.

https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/5/144596.html?1214606071
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Danny
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roadmaster49,

In 1950 Detroit's white population was at 1,500,000 and the black population was at 300,000.

Now add in segregation, xenophobia, demarcation, the 1967 riots, neighborhood blockbusting and insurance red-lining, the election of Coleman A. Young, growing black communities moving into what's left of mostly White Detroit neighborhoods, economic flight, gangs, violent crime, poor police protection, awful Detroit Public School District and the Manoogian parties from King Kwame Kilpatrick and what do we have? A Detroit's white population about 86,000 and 682,000 for blacks.

That can be right. The U.S. Census had recorded it.


Now today most blacks in Detroit are sick tired living under empty promises from city services. They forward to look for migrate into other areas in the Metro-Detroit areas like Southfield, R.O.T. Pontiac, Oak Park, Mt Clemens, Inkster, Westland, Farmington Hills, Taylor, Romulus, Belleville, Ypsilanti TWP. Ypsilanti, Van Buren TWP. Redford TWP, River Rouge, Roseville, Eastpointe, Harper Woods, Warren, Ecorse and Taylor.
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Hudkina
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They must really love Taylor then!
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Jjaba
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 9:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You mean Taylortucky?

jjaba.
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Lefty2
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Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Detroitrise, The headline "Something's not right here" threw me off.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Burnsie
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Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 3:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jjaba wrote, "In jjaba's 1950s, Detroit was 4th. Only New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia were larger."

Detroit was indeed 4th in the 1920, 1930, and 1940 censuses. But here are the 1950 numbers:

New York 7,891,957
Chicago 3,620,962
Philadelphia 2,071,605
Los Angeles 1,970,358
Detroit 1,849,568

Detroit was 5th by then, even though it had more people than it did in 1940, and would gain a bit more until about 1953. But LA was growing much faster.

Source:
http://www.census.gov/populati on/www/documentation/twps0027. html
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Jjaba
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Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 6:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brnsie, jjaba meant the 1940 census which applied until 1950. Sorry for the confusion.
Just before the expressways went in, in about 1953 there were estimates of 2 million living in Detroit. After expressways, with Oak Park, Harper Woods, Livonia, Warren, et. al., Detroit began to empty.

At the same time, the factories moved out too. That was a real killer. (Wixom, Sterling, Warren, Wayne, Livonia, Willow Run, Ypsilanti)

jjaba, Proudly Westside.
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Roadmaster49
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Thanks all for the added comment. Here's the deal, from an outsider who has studied sociology and current events.

Blacks always say they never get a fair deal. They are always blaming white oppression on their socioeconomic standing.

There is no way that group can claim that in Detroit. Whether Detroit rises or falls as a greater metropolitan area is squarely on their backs, right?

And let's look at their track record, Detroit is an urban blighted area with high crime, poor education of it's citizenry and a low quality of public services.

The current mayor continues the tone of entitlement by throwing parties at the mayor residence and having an affair with an aide.

I lived in Houston, Texas and the black population was maybe 20-25%. I liked Houston because of it's multi ethnicity. I'm not a racist, I am prejudiced. I just don't know when there will be a great black leader that will preach self reliance, hard work, etc. You know what? Even with that the entitlement mentality will take generations to reverse. Thanks LBJ and liberal Democrats. War On Poverty? By giving handouts!