Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 2572 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:34 pm: | |
Does anyone have the current population count for the city? If so, do you mind posting them here or providing me the link to them? Also, does anyone have the current race percentages? I'm not sure, but I remember seeing/hearing something about the African American percentage dropping by 1 or 2%. BTW Danny, I'm not looking for your "calculations". Please and thank you to those who helped. (Message edited by DetroitRise on June 24, 2008) |
Dds Member Username: Dds
Post Number: 686 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:56 pm: | |
quote:BTW Danny, I'm not looking for your "calculations". And I'm sure Danny never wants to hear you blather on about the weather, so you're even. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 7290 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:58 pm: | |
ME-OW. |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 2573 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:04 pm: | |
Don't feed the trolls JL. |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 762 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:25 pm: | |
"Does anyone have the current population count for the city?" Yes. The Census Bureau has it. |
Dds Member Username: Dds
Post Number: 687 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:45 pm: | |
quote:Don't feed the trolls JL. Whatever. Folks with class on this site let Danny be Danny, as JL and others can attest. Even the trolls, a moniker you throw around pretty liberally. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 3007 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 1:55 pm: | |
What's wrong with Danny's calculations. He gets them directly from SEMCOG or the US census bureau. Both of which are just fuzzy estimates at this point. We won't have anything that resembles a real hard count until they redo the census in 2010. Even that has a lot of fuzziness built in. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 7431 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 12:46 am: | |
Detroitrise, You can find the population numbers for Detroit yourself on U.S Census.gov or Semcog. Since you don't need the calculations from me. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 6066 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 1:08 am: | |
Uh, oh. Looks like someone got his widdle fiwings hurt. lol |
Studious1 Member Username: Studious1
Post Number: 9 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:04 pm: | |
this is from Wikipedia As of 2000 Census, there were 951,270 people, residing in the city. In 2006, Detroit's population was estimated to be 918,849, a decline of 3.4% since 2000, showing a much smaller exodus from the city than in past decades. A new report projects that Detroit's population will fall to about 705,000 by 2035. the Associated Press says:The city's population is now pegged at nearly 919,000. 1980: 1,203,339 1990: 1,027,974 2000: 951,270 Percent change, 1990–2000: -7.4% U.S. rank in 1980: 6th U.S. rank in 1990: 7th U.S. rank in 2000: 14th Density: 6,858 people per square mile (2000) Racial and ethnic characteristics (2000) White: 116,599 Black or African American: 775,772 American Indian and Alaskan Native: 3,140 Asian: 9,268 Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 251 Hispanic or Latino (may be of any race): 47,167 Other: 24,199 Percent of residents born in state: 70.6% (2000) Age characteristics (2000) Population under 5 years old: 76,232 Population 5 to 9 years old: 93,882 Population 10 to 14 years old: 83,361 Population 15 to 19 years old: 68,707 Population 20 to 24 years old: 65,654 Population 25 to 34 years old: 144,323 Population 35 to 44 years old: 136,695 Population 45 to 54 years old: 115,971 Population 55 to 59 years old: 38,045 Population 60 to 64 years old: 29,344 Population 65 to 74 years old: 52,863 Population 75 to 84 years old: 35,213 Population 85 years and over: 10,980 Median age: 30.9 years I hope these aren't considered calculations. I promise they are free of addition, subtraction, division or multiplication on my part. I have not taken the arc-cosine of something. Please do not hurt my feelings. I am very sensitive. (Message edited by studious1 on June 27, 2008) (Message edited by studious1 on June 27, 2008) |
Mwilbert Member Username: Mwilbert
Post Number: 300 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:53 pm: | |
"showing a much smaller exodus from the city than in past decades. " It may show that. It may also show that there was some undercounting in 2000, so that the subsequent decline was understated. The situation should be much clearer after the 2010 census. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 3252 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:58 pm: | |
Detroit was not the 14th largest city in 2000. It only fell out of the top 10 (by estimations) last year. As for the 2000s being a smaller decline than the 1990s... I'm a bit skeptical. |
Mayor_sekou Member Username: Mayor_sekou
Post Number: 2460 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:14 pm: | |
Well since May I know of three other people who have moved down here from State so I guess that helps, right? lol |
Mackcreative Member Username: Mackcreative
Post Number: 246 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:21 pm: | |
Mayor_sekou, Unfortunately that will be offset by the mackcreative family of four moving out of state in July. |
Edsel Member Username: Edsel
Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 10:26 pm: | |
Detroit 2006 population estimate : 834,000 U.S. Census Bureau Data set: 2006 American Community Survey This, other summary stats at http://factfinder.census.gov/s ervlet/NPTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=1 6000US2622000&-qr_name=ACS_200 6_EST_G00_NP01&-ds_name=&-redo Log=false |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 6068 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 12:13 am: | |
Edsel, The American Community Survey was primarily created to track economic and demographic changes. The Census still uses official Census Bureau Estimates to track approximate population change. The official estimate number for the most recent year (2006) is 918,849 after the official challenge to the Census. SEMCOG has yet to factor in the challenge to their numbers, which is odd, because they told me in an email that they use the estimates as the base for their own estimates. In fact, they factored in the most recent estimate for Wayne County (2007), but not the challenge for Detroit proper. |
Edsel Member Username: Edsel
Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 6:24 am: | |
tanks, Lmich. SEMCOG posts a June 1 Det pop figure of 861,822 Your understanding is SEMCOG will revise this UP ? SEMCOG: Population Change by Community, 2000-2008. p. 7 (pdf p. 8). http://semcog.org/uploadedFiles/po0608.pdf (Message edited by edsel on June 28, 2008) |
Roadmaster49 Member Username: Roadmaster49
Post Number: 50 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 9:18 am: | |
African Americans make up 775,000 of roughly 950,000 citizens. Wow, that can't be right. that really leaves me puzzling. |
Hudkina Member Username: Hudkina
Post Number: 221 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 1:52 pm: | |
You have heard of White Flight, correct? The majority of Detroit's neighborhoods are well over 90% black. The only significant area of the city that maintains a largely white(and hispanic) population is Southwest Detroit. And that only accounts for under 100,000 people. |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 6806 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 5:25 pm: | |
In year 2000, Detroit was 10th largest city in USA. In jjaba's 1950s, Detroit was 4th. Only New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia were larger. jjaba. |
Retroit Member Username: Retroit
Post Number: 251 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 5:44 pm: | |
Interesting! The newbies answer a simple question that left the old-timers befuddled and bickering. Good job Studious1 and Edsel. We need more like you! Roadmaster49, come visit the city sometime. You'll really leave puzzled! |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 1464 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 6:00 pm: | |
Detroit (-3) G.P.W. (+4) City activist calls it quits on Detroit. http://www.detroitnews.com/app s/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200806 28/OPINION03/806280398/1038/LI FESTYLE01 "Hurst worked tirelessly for nine long years in her crusade against blight. Somewhere between being told to "call the mayor" or being repeatedly disconnected by the 224-DOPE phone line, she decided not to take it anymore." Hurst predicts, "If Detroit's leaders continue to demonstrate such shameful neglect and disregard for the basic quality of services for its citizens and taxpayers, pretty soon the only people left in Detroit will be those too poor to leave and the criminals who prey on them." -She is not too far off there. |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 2625 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 6:32 pm: | |
Lefty2, that refers back to this thread. https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/5/144596.html?1214606071 |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 7438 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 7:14 pm: | |
Roadmaster49, In 1950 Detroit's white population was at 1,500,000 and the black population was at 300,000. Now add in segregation, xenophobia, demarcation, the 1967 riots, neighborhood blockbusting and insurance red-lining, the election of Coleman A. Young, growing black communities moving into what's left of mostly White Detroit neighborhoods, economic flight, gangs, violent crime, poor police protection, awful Detroit Public School District and the Manoogian parties from King Kwame Kilpatrick and what do we have? A Detroit's white population about 86,000 and 682,000 for blacks. That can be right. The U.S. Census had recorded it. Now today most blacks in Detroit are sick tired living under empty promises from city services. They forward to look for migrate into other areas in the Metro-Detroit areas like Southfield, R.O.T. Pontiac, Oak Park, Mt Clemens, Inkster, Westland, Farmington Hills, Taylor, Romulus, Belleville, Ypsilanti TWP. Ypsilanti, Van Buren TWP. Redford TWP, River Rouge, Roseville, Eastpointe, Harper Woods, Warren, Ecorse and Taylor. |
Hudkina Member Username: Hudkina
Post Number: 222 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 9:42 pm: | |
They must really love Taylor then! |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 6809 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 9:52 pm: | |
You mean Taylortucky? jjaba. |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 1466 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:20 am: | |
Sorry Detroitrise, The headline "Something's not right here" threw me off. Thanks for the heads up. |
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 1434 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 3:07 pm: | |
Jjaba wrote, "In jjaba's 1950s, Detroit was 4th. Only New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia were larger." Detroit was indeed 4th in the 1920, 1930, and 1940 censuses. But here are the 1950 numbers: New York 7,891,957 Chicago 3,620,962 Philadelphia 2,071,605 Los Angeles 1,970,358 Detroit 1,849,568 Detroit was 5th by then, even though it had more people than it did in 1940, and would gain a bit more until about 1953. But LA was growing much faster. Source: http://www.census.gov/populati on/www/documentation/twps0027. html |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 6819 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 6:15 pm: | |
Brnsie, jjaba meant the 1940 census which applied until 1950. Sorry for the confusion. Just before the expressways went in, in about 1953 there were estimates of 2 million living in Detroit. After expressways, with Oak Park, Harper Woods, Livonia, Warren, et. al., Detroit began to empty. At the same time, the factories moved out too. That was a real killer. (Wixom, Sterling, Warren, Wayne, Livonia, Willow Run, Ypsilanti) jjaba, Proudly Westside. |
Roadmaster49 Member Username: Roadmaster49
Post Number: 51 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 7:54 pm: | |
Thanks all for the added comment. Here's the deal, from an outsider who has studied sociology and current events. Blacks always say they never get a fair deal. They are always blaming white oppression on their socioeconomic standing. There is no way that group can claim that in Detroit. Whether Detroit rises or falls as a greater metropolitan area is squarely on their backs, right? And let's look at their track record, Detroit is an urban blighted area with high crime, poor education of it's citizenry and a low quality of public services. The current mayor continues the tone of entitlement by throwing parties at the mayor residence and having an affair with an aide. I lived in Houston, Texas and the black population was maybe 20-25%. I liked Houston because of it's multi ethnicity. I'm not a racist, I am prejudiced. I just don't know when there will be a great black leader that will preach self reliance, hard work, etc. You know what? Even with that the entitlement mentality will take generations to reverse. Thanks LBJ and liberal Democrats. War On Poverty? By giving handouts! |
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