  Jhartmich Member Username: Jhartmich Post Number: 143 Registered: 04-2006 |
In the mail today, I received my copy of “Detroit Then and Now: A Six Year Retrospective Look at the Motor City.” Isn’t a FULL color magazine a tad expensive for a broke city like Detroit? I know what has happened in the last six years (and prior), why do we need to spend money on this? Kwame’s pictures are splattered in just about every picture on every page. Was this paid out of his re-election campaign or is it an official city notice? If it’s not a Kwame re-election piece and is official city business, what’s the point? What do you want me to know that I didn’t already know? The publication is beautiful and expensive looking. Why are we wasting money on this? | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 4683 Registered: 06-2004 |
Because KK wants an acquittal | ||
Cub Member Username: Cub Post Number: 613 Registered: 02-2007 |
He is trying to paint a pretty picture for himself. I got one today also. | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 1325 Registered: 11-2005 |
Yeah, propaganda. Does it say who paid for it? | ||
Eastsidedame Member Username: Eastsidedame Post Number: 399 Registered: 12-2006 |
Yeah, any ads in it? | ||
Bragaboutme Member Username: Bragaboutme Post Number: 361 Registered: 02-2008 |
I don't know if you all remember a few years back he did the same thing. I threw away the green and yellow bag filled with KK pics. | ||
Jhartmich Member Username: Jhartmich Post Number: 144 Registered: 04-2006 |
Don't get me wrong, it's a beautifully designed handout. I just thought that with all the money woes, it was a little expensive. We LOVE wasting money in tis city. Our priorities are a mess. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 1858 Registered: 11-2003 |
"I don't know if you all remember a few years back he did the same thing. I threw away the green and yellow bag filled with KK pics." It also had a lil silicone bracelet in it lol | ||
Hockey_guy Member Username: Hockey_guy Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2007 |
The cost of paper has really risen the last few years, I'm sure it was very expensive. I work for the largest printing company in MI and we've lost customers because print media, is becoming outdated and expensive compared to digital media, such as the internet. The younger generation likes to read publications online now, not have a paper or magazine delivered, and it ultimately costs thousands of jobs. (Message edited by Hockey_guy on July 19, 2008) | ||
Michigansheik Member Username: Michigansheik Post Number: 315 Registered: 09-2005 |
its a mystery http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20080719/NEW S01/807190350 hope that it was not paid for with city $. | ||
Sean_of_detroit Member Username: Sean_of_detroit Post Number: 1191 Registered: 03-2008 |
Hey, you should save them. Then in ten or more years, sell them on Ebay (assuming it's still around). | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 5141 Registered: 02-2005 |
They stole the name of a great book on Detroit history-- not cool. Before you throw any accusations, find out if it was published with money from the general fund of the city. If so, it is pretty questionable, especially if it is political in nature. | ||
Mrsjdaniels Member Username: Mrsjdaniels Post Number: 1010 Registered: 08-2005 |
i don't care who paid for it...it is wasteful...do you know many times alum have called to curse us at WSU for doing similar | ||
Leoqueen Member Username: Leoqueen Post Number: 2095 Registered: 07-2004 |
My sister called me last night to warn me that this document was delivered to her home on the northwest side, and that mine would probably be delivered soon. I got it in the mail, and it made me want to puke. I live just outside of Lafayette Park, so I benefit from the development going on downtown, but my sister lives on St.Marys at Six Mile, and you sure dont see any 'glitz and glamor' over there! Detroit THEN and Detroit NOW....I would like to see some pictures of the Detroit NOW that most of the citizens have to put up with. They sure arent in this expensive piece of trash. Coincidentally, I also recieved two copies of his Mom's campaign flyer. All of these documents are now residing very comfortably in the dumpster. | ||
Ndmom Member Username: Ndmom Post Number: 120 Registered: 05-2005 |
We should all gather one afternoon in front of the building where KK works and burn them. | ||
Deteamster Member Username: Deteamster Post Number: 124 Registered: 07-2007 |
You guys got yours in the mail? I haven't received anything. I'm by no means trying to be inflammatory when I wonder if there are too many whites and Hispanics where I live for Kwame to bother. Not really his target constituency. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 5142 Registered: 02-2005 |
What does target constituency mean? | ||
Ronaldj Member Username: Ronaldj Post Number: 33 Registered: 01-2007 |
I received a Kilpatrick family Christmas card one or two years ago. Out of the blue. I will take the suggestion regarding e-bay. And the recent Detroit Then and Now. A piece of transparent campaign literature. 6 years is not really then and now. | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 826 Registered: 01-2007 |
WDIV-TV had a short story on this at 6pm. I'm sure they'll re-run it. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 2877 Registered: 09-2007 |
"He is trying to paint a pretty picture for himself." HA! I just read the book myself and that's the same thing I said.  Strange, I live in one of the 6 neighborhood and havent seen any notable improvements or changes. | ||
Fareast Member Username: Fareast Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2008 |
Freep.com is reporting that Tolliver said she thought it was "nice and pretty." Mine was addressed with my full name, including middle, which tells me it was taken from the voting records. Has Bobby's picture in it, but not a single one of Christine "do you know who the f$$^ i am" Beatty. Someone said it was a way to kick off his reelection campaign. Talk about balls! | ||
Mrsjdaniels Member Username: Mrsjdaniels Post Number: 1013 Registered: 08-2005 |
i say mail them back - if every writes RETURN TO SENDER that mess would be HILARIOUS! | ||
Jhartmich Member Username: Jhartmich Post Number: 145 Registered: 04-2006 |
Note: Mne to was addressed to me specifically. They must be using the voting records to send these out. I thought that was illegal???? | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 2879 Registered: 09-2007 |
^^^ In a city where nearly everyone in power is some type of crook, I'm hardly surprised. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 4697 Registered: 06-2004 |
Are your tax records addressed the same way? | ||
Eastsidedame Member Username: Eastsidedame Post Number: 401 Registered: 12-2006 |
Yes, do write "RETURN TO SENDER" on it, cross your address out and mail it back. They'd be liable for postage both to your address and from it as well. That is...if it wasn't paid with tax $. That hasn't really been established here. Who is the "publisher"? | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1739 Registered: 04-2006 |
I would think it is being sent to registered voters. I still have not got one yet, though I read about it in the freep this morning. | ||
Youngprofessionaldetroiter Member Username: Youngprofessionaldetroiter Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2008 |
Tax records are public. I'm not sure about voting records. But either way is irrelevant. Anyone can buy a list of names of Detroit residents listed by street and number from marketing agencies. The question isn't how did they get your name. The question is who paid to do it. If it's a PAC, it's legal. If it's city money...I think that's a different story. But even THAT question is irrelevant. If you're upset, and you need to write return to sender or set it on fire, than do that. But if you want to REALLY make a difference, call Jennifer Granholm and leave a message that you want her to act to remove KK from office NOW. The future of Detroit is of great interest to both SE Michigan and the entire state. And if you don't believe me, ask your own elected public officials. Bombarding elected officials with phone calls and letters DOES make a difference. I was on a grassroots group that flooded a US Senator's office with so many phone calls, they were unable to function for the day. Sometimes, it's the only way to get their attention. Look, in basketball, fans can yell all they want about a bad call, and it won't make a lick of difference. In politics, you can yell all you want, and it does make a difference. Usually, it makes the most difference. Call Constituent services at Jennifer Granholm's office right now and leave a voicemail if you're fed up. Detroit resident or not, if this something you feel strongly about, that don't waste another second complaining to your friends, family or this board. Do something! It's 12:30 eastern time and I just got voicemail and left her one. What are you waiting for? Jennifer Granholm (517) 335-7858 Or, of course, if you don't agree, then call up Jennifer and say you don't agree. I'm just saying that complaining gets us nowhere. We are not victims. Ask for what you want. YPD (Message edited by youngprofessionaldetroiter on July 20, 2008) | ||
Pkbroch Member Username: Pkbroch Post Number: 40 Registered: 02-2008 |
Young profesional builder type person. I like your ideas and your drive to help the city. Many of us on this forum, where born in detroit or lived for 40 years. Please do not trample our childhood memories.A memory of a J.L.Hudsons, or Ernest KEARNS or Crowley/Milner. The rebuilding of old retail in the central core is papamount These stores have gone by the way side as has Bonwitt-Teller etc. | ||
Jhartmich Member Username: Jhartmich Post Number: 152 Registered: 04-2006 |
Pkbroch: Ummm...As a Detroiter like yourself, what the hell are you talking about? Trampling childhood memories? LOL>...Huh? I don't get what you're bitching at him about. | ||
Mackcreative Member Username: Mackcreative Post Number: 247 Registered: 08-2006 |
They must be taken from either voter registration, or driver's licenses. I received mine with the name on my license/voter reg., which is not the name I use elsewhere. My husband, whose license/voter reg. has an old address did not get one. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 5143 Registered: 02-2005 |
Pkbroch: I didn't pick up on any of that in his post. By the way, those memories have been trampled about as much as possible already: those stores have left (on their own volition), and their buildings torn down (thank the city). I'm assuming you were deriving something from another of YPD's posts, in which he very matter-of-factly stated that he is not familiar with that era in Detroit. (Message edited by mackinaw on July 20, 2008) | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1742 Registered: 04-2006 |
YPD, if you're a candidate, there are ways of getting voters addresses. You can't get how they voted, but you do get targeted mailings. I've worked local elections before, these were pretty easy to get. I can remember waling the neighborhoods with candiates and we would only stop by the houses on the list. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 13691 Registered: 12-2003 |
quote: But wouldn't that confuse and perhaps alarm the OTHER barber shop clients?! Good catch on the postage permit, Townonenorth. I like the return to sender one...gotta catch 'em all before they go to landfill. Let's go gather them up around the city! Wasn't expecting this much fun so early on a Tuesday... | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 11973 Registered: 10-2003 |
Whether it be Detroiters are the region that pays it is a comlpete waster of money. I sent mine back to city hall with a note pointed out it was a waste of money to print and send. I have not received a response. I would encourage everyone to send theirs back to make a point. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 1137 Registered: 11-2006 |
Anthony Adams' first act as head of Water Department? | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 1387 Registered: 11-2005 |
They stole the name of a great book on Detroit history-- not cool. I wouldn't call that a great book. So did anyone ever uncover who paid for the campaign literature? | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 1606 Registered: 07-2007 |
The point was so the Mayor could get FREE advertising and publicity at taxpayers expense to help his mom out on her election bid. Aren't we lucky enough to have a mayor to spend our tax money to help his mom get reelected and give himself an ego boost to try to make the city look good. | ||
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2007 |
Sorry about the previous posts about the postage, apparently I had it wrong. Difference between postal class and all that. Still doesn't make it right. One would think that City Council would look into that and how it was funded, although they give KK a huge budget for his "office" Maybe it's time for a city manager style of government. At least they have to be non-political (or at least should be) | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 1364 Registered: 11-2006 |
so, how many of you have called Jennifer? youngprofessional even gave the phone number, so I hope you ALL called. Who of you called? | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1559 Registered: 08-2007 |
TownOneNorth, please explain in detail how you got the postage thing wrong. What did you get wrong? The postage or who owns the stamp or what. | ||
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth Post Number: 71 Registered: 10-2007 |
Ok on the top of the postmark it says PRSRTD STD U.S. POSTAGE PAID DETROIT, MI PERMIT #100 The difference lies in whether the stamp is of certain classes. some are presorted, as this one was, some are first class mail, some are nonprofit, etc. I'm just going by the stamp. Now if someone works for the post office, maybe they can define this issue. Go here to see why I thought so. It's not the water after all. http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/Po rtals/0/docs/environmental/ROE _brochure.pdf | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1560 Registered: 08-2007 |
Well, if you see in the news a write up about the Mailing Permit scandal with a big F-ing "No Comment" from Anthony Adams, don't be surprised. | ||
Detroitsapphire Member Username: Detroitsapphire Post Number: 12 Registered: 08-2008 |
Do you think he has done any good for the city? | ||
Downtown_lady Member Username: Downtown_lady Post Number: 83 Registered: 08-2008 |
There are lots of criminals who have done good things in their lives, but that doesn't negate their crime or render them unaccountable for their crime. The man is a thief and a liar, plain and simple. There are others who can also do good things for the city, without the deceit and corruption. Detroitsapphire, are you on the Friends and Family plan? You were very adamant in defending Carl Ramsey (one of the mayor's BFF) at election time. We know that the mayor has done some good things...we get it. But he is also corrupt, so bye bye to him, hopefully soon. |
