Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 949 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:03 pm: | |
In the Detroit Olympics thread there is a Youtube link to the 1967 Olympic bid videos. The link to the Detroit olympic videos on Youtube I have seen. On the similar video list I watched the Safety Patrol video from 1937. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =k87ngcACTRs In the video at 7:00 they go through an underpass which was discussed at some point before on this site. Wondering if it was the same one I found it again at Cortland and 2nd in HP. Sure enough it was, as it is probably the only one ever built. It is interesting to see it then and know that it still exists today but im sure it is covered up. You can see the school in the background though there is an addition on it now so it looks differently but the school is vacant if I remember correctly. In the video they go into a building which is the same shape at the same corner in 1949. http://techtools.culma.wayne.e du/media/wayne/1949/ha-4-94.pd f Now that block has been replaced by Cortland Elementary. I also wonder how many violations that the Safety Patrol would find today in a lawless area like Highland Park! Was there a big push for this plan or does anyone know anything about these odd and im sure very expensive pedestrian safety feature? This guy on Youtube who posted the video has some interesting old time Detroit videos. |
Swede1934 Member Username: Swede1934
Post Number: 54 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:13 pm: | |
Fareastsider..I went back and forth through that underpass many times. I started school at that school, known then as Ferris Elementary. Second was a lot busier then, and that underpass made it a lot safer to cross. Also, there was a penny candy store on Cortland,just beyond second, and kid being kids, we had to get there for our candy treats during the lunch break. |
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 951 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:25 pm: | |
In the video they stop at a sweet shop on the corner! Watch it and see if its the same one. |
Swede1934 Member Username: Swede1934
Post Number: 55 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:58 pm: | |
That picture of the school is definitely Ferris, I recognise the concrete stairs down to the playground. That candy store just might be the same one, it sure looks like it. |
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 953 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 6:37 pm: | |
Took a look at the underpass today actually its all sealed up. Ferris school looks like a bomb hit it. I always get depressed at how well older buildings were built compared to today. So much attention to detail. It is depressing to see such a city go to waste. If it can happen to Highland Park or Detroit it can happen anywhere? Thanks for sharing Swede. |
Richard_bak Member Username: Richard_bak
Post Number: 352 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 7:19 pm: | |
Oops. I thought the thread said something about see-through underpants. My bad. |
Detroithabitater Member Username: Detroithabitater
Post Number: 166 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 2:13 pm: | |
I would imagine that it would be difficult to keep water/ice out of it. I remember seeing it 2 years ago and being very interested. Was 2nd ever really that busy of a street anyhow? |
Aoife Member Username: Aoife
Post Number: 71 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 2:32 pm: | |
There was also once an underpass, or a "subway" as they called it then, at Cass and Peterboro. |
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 776 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 6:56 pm: | |
quote:Was 2nd ever really that busy of a street anyhow? According to my dad, who grew up on the NW side in the 50s and 60s, 2nd was his family's pre-expressway route out of downtown, and it moved pretty fast then. I guess that was before Highland Park put in stop signs at every other intersection. I use it sometimes myself, but I cut over to Hamilton somewhere between W. Chicago and the Highland Park border. |
Jgavrile Member Username: Jgavrile
Post Number: 180 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 2:29 pm: | |
There was another underpass at Second & Pilgrim Going to Ford School on the North side of Highland Park too. Swede1934, I can't remember the name of the candy store on Cortland? |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 3509 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 2:53 pm: | |
Before 1970, Second was a one way street going North through Highland Park, and Third was one-way going south. Lights were timed for about 45 mph, so traffic moved at a pretty good clip. Then, around forty years back, the city fathers of HP decided those two streets were like canyons barricading the neighborhoods, so they changed the plan to make both two-way streets with no coordination on the traffic lights. Since the Lodge was done by then, it was no big thing as the Lodge had siphoned off most of the traffic anyway. |
Gnome Member Username: Gnome
Post Number: 1627 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 3:14 pm: | |
Peterboro and Cass subway from WSU virtual library. No date on the pic, but it looks like late winter sometime in the mid-1930's
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Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 1424 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 8:39 pm: | |
Strange to see such huge, wide-open barren fields in Detroit even in 1937. |
Jgavrile Member Username: Jgavrile
Post Number: 182 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 12:57 am: | |
Before 1946, Brush and John R were two way streets. They were made one way to ease traffic. Now they are back to two way streets again |
Jgavrile Member Username: Jgavrile
Post Number: 183 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 12:59 am: | |
Before 1946, Brush and John R were two way streets. They were made one way to ease traffic. Now they are back to two way streets again. I know this as in 1946 my folks were hit head on by a drunk teenager going too fast on the wrong side of the street,at Buena Vista and John R. Put my Mother in the hospital for almost 1 1/2 years. |
Hamtragedy Member Username: Hamtragedy
Post Number: 265 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 1:19 am: | |
An old timer in Hamtramck told me there was one at Holbrook & Campau. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 2411 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 8:36 am: | |
If the cities had gone crazy installing the pedestrian underpasses (maybe as a WPA blitz) they would be full of garbage today. |
Dinnc Member Username: Dinnc
Post Number: 31 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 9:28 pm: | |
For someone who was born in 1981 all I can say is, WOW!! To see these videos of Detroit Proper with bustling streets and buildings that aren't destroyed makes me want to see this city become what it used to be. (I was referring to the city on the move videos.) I had no Idea that Detroit was trying to get the Olympic games in 1968. |
Oldestuff Member Username: Oldestuff
Post Number: 88 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 1:57 pm: | |
dinnc: get a copy of "Stranded at the Corner" it's all about Tiger Stadium and there is reference to the 1968 Olympics and it will benefit the Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy - I know there are copies for sale at Brooks Lumber |
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm
Post Number: 1124 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 3:11 pm: | |
Bearinabox's Dad was right about 2nd and 3rd. They were the easy way to get to the Fisher Building from Ferndale. Faster than Woodward with less lights.... |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 3403 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 3:19 pm: | |
Wow @ that pic of the old Burton International building. I taught at a volunteer program in that building. |